Rand Paul: “ISIS exists because of the Republican hawks”

[quorthon]

Rand Paul ISIS Exists And Grows Stronger Because Of GOP Hawks

Arms were given to the Middle East indiscriminately indeed and gone to Islamic State militants. And indeed GOP hawks wanted to eliminate both President Assad and ISIS. But pay attention, he said “They created these people”. So Rand blames his party members for creating Islamic State.

 

[hipeter924]

Well it is true in a way, as without the Dem and GOP war hawks we would have never invaded Iraq and attempted nation-building. Trying to get rid of Assad was even more of a disaster than bombing Libya to depose Qhaddfi.

 

[M14 Shooter]

"GOP hawks" would also get rid of ISIS....

 

[Steinlight]

Well it is true in a way, as without the Dem and GOP war hawks we would have never invaded Iraq and attempted nation-building. Trying to get rid of Assad was even more of a disaster than bombing Libya to depose Qhaddfi.

A disaster for Assad, not the US. The US would rather have Syria, an enemy of Israel and by extension the US, destabilized than under his control.

 

[Steinlight]

"GOP hawks" would also get rid of ISIS....

ISIS haven't finished the job yet. Than the US moves in to take them out.

 

[TheOldSchool]

The quickest way to create a terrorist, is to invade his country for no reason and blow up his neighbors and family.

 

[hipeter924]

"GOP hawks" would also get rid of ISIS....

Not really, ISIS would just bomb civilians and kill US soldiers, and another ISIS would just pop up the moment the US leaves.

 

[Steinlight]

"GOP hawks" would also get rid of ISIS....

Not really, ISIS would just bomb civilians and kill US soldiers, and another ISIS would just pop up the moment the US leaves.

That's why you don't leave. US will move in again and be there for the long haul next time around.

 

[Stephanie]

yeah yeah yeah, good ole Hufferpuffer....
that must give some of you Dem/obama cult members a thrill.... so you democrats need to run out and vote for the Rand.

go for it. He'll appreciate it. especially over the old Hillary

 

[TheOldSchool]

"GOP hawks" would also get rid of ISIS....

Not really, ISIS would just bomb civilians and kill US soldiers, and another ISIS would just pop up the moment the US leaves.

That's why you don't leave. US will move in again and be there for the long haul next time around.

Only if the lunatics in the GOP get back in power

 

[M14 Shooter]

"GOP hawks" would also get rid of ISIS....

Not really, ISIS would just bomb civilians and kill US soldiers, and another ISIS would just pop up the moment the US leaves.

It may very well be that something would replace ISIS; that doesn't change the fact.

 

[toxicmedia]

Rand Paul ISIS Exists And Grows Stronger Because Of GOP Hawks

Arms were given to the Middle East indiscriminately indeed and gone to Islamic State militants. And indeed GOP hawks wanted to eliminate both President Assad and ISIS. But pay attention, he said “They created these people”. So Rand blames his party members for creating Islamic State.

Rand Paul will never get the Republican nomination in a million years, because right now, his foreign policy is diametrically opposed to Fox News's current narrative...which is...Obama is doing nothing about ISIS...and that narrative is put forth to reinforce the base.

The reason reinforcing the base is so critical, is because the GOP has been unable to keep silent on how much better Hillary's poll numbers are than any Republican challenger. If righties get depressed about not being able to beat Hillary, at this point at least, they won't turn out as much as they would when motivated.

So!..the GOP is trying to get them motivated by fear of ISIS coming to the US, unless of course, you vote Republican. Then that Republican will kick their asses.

I know, I know...yeah yeah yeah...of course not of that will actually happen, then if they win, they'll take credit for preventing the thing that would never have happened anyway

 

[TheOldSchool]

Rand Paul ISIS Exists And Grows Stronger Because Of GOP Hawks

Arms were given to the Middle East indiscriminately indeed and gone to Islamic State militants. And indeed GOP hawks wanted to eliminate both President Assad and ISIS. But pay attention, he said “They created these people”. So Rand blames his party members for creating Islamic State.

Rand Paul will never get the Republican nomination in a million years, because right now, his foreign policy is diametrically opposed to Fox News's current narrative...which is...Obama is doing nothing about ISIS...and that narrative is put forth to reinforce the base.

The reason reinforcing the base is so critical, is because the GOP has been unable to keep silent on how much better Hillary's poll numbers are than any Republican challenger. If righties get depressed about not being able to beat Hillary, at this point at least, they won't turn out as much as they would when motivated.

So!..the GOP is trying to get them motivated by fear of ISIS coming to the US, unless of course, you vote Republican. Then that Republican will kick their asses.

I know, I know, of course not of that will actually happen, then if they win, they'll take credit for preventing the thing that would never have happened anyway

And you better bet they're crossing they're fingers that ebola makes a comeback too.

 

[Steinlight]

"GOP hawks" would also get rid of ISIS....

Not really, ISIS would just bomb civilians and kill US soldiers, and another ISIS would just pop up the moment the US leaves.

That's why you don't leave. US will move in again and be there for the long haul next time around.

Only if the lunatics in the GOP get back in power

Obama very likely will move in by the end of his term if Iraq continues to fall, Hilary certainly would as well. At this point, the goal is to undermine the Iranian backed Iraqi governent. Once ISIS closes in on Baghdad, the US has its casus belli to move in and prevent that from happening. They sure as hell won't let Baghdad fall to ISIS. But they want to create as much chaos for the Iranians and their militias at the moment to make the government's position untenable.

 

[toxicmedia]

Rand Paul ISIS Exists And Grows Stronger Because Of GOP Hawks

Arms were given to the Middle East indiscriminately indeed and gone to Islamic State militants. And indeed GOP hawks wanted to eliminate both President Assad and ISIS. But pay attention, he said “They created these people”. So Rand blames his party members for creating Islamic State.

Rand Paul will never get the Republican nomination in a million years, because right now, his foreign policy is diametrically opposed to Fox News's current narrative...which is...Obama is doing nothing about ISIS...and that narrative is put forth to reinforce the base.

The reason reinforcing the base is so critical, is because the GOP has been unable to keep silent on how much better Hillary's poll numbers are than any Republican challenger. If righties get depressed about not being able to beat Hillary, at this point at least, they won't turn out as much as they would when motivated.

So!..the GOP is trying to get them motivated by fear of ISIS coming to the US, unless of course, you vote Republican. Then that Republican will kick their asses.

I know, I know, of course not of that will actually happen, then if they win, they'll take credit for preventing the thing that would never have happened anyway

And you better bet they're crossing they're fingers that ebola makes a comeback too.

Of course!

See...also, if you vote for Hillary, ISIS will send the Ebola virus to throw out the constitution and implement Sharia Law

 

[Porker]

The quickest way to create a terrorist, is to invade his country for no reason and blow up his neighbors and family.

 

[toxicmedia]

"GOP hawks" would also get rid of ISIS....

Not really, ISIS would just bomb civilians and kill US soldiers, and another ISIS would just pop up the moment the US leaves.

That's why you don't leave. US will move in again and be there for the long haul next time around.

Only if the lunatics in the GOP get back in power

Obama very likely will move in by the end of his term if Iraq continues to fall, Hilary certainly would as well. At this point, the goal is to undermine the Iranian backed Iraqi governent. Once ISIS closes in on Baghdad, the US has its casus belli to move in and prevent that from happening. They sure as hell won't let Baghdad fall to ISIS. But they want to create as much chaos for the Iranians and their militias at the moment to make the government's position untenable.

I'm not going to be presumptuous, so this isn't a direct response to what you wrote...but it just occurred to me how nice it would be to see Iran and ISIS fighting over Iraq, and what would we lose if either one of them won?

 

[aaronleland]

"GOP hawks" would also get rid of ISIS....

Not really, ISIS would just bomb civilians and kill US soldiers, and another ISIS would just pop up the moment the US leaves.

That's why you don't leave. US will move in again and be there for the long haul next time around.

Good idea. We should never leave. We'll just spend the rest of our country's history getting our soldiers killed in a fight that isn't ours. Meanwhile the GOP can bitch that we are wasting money on education and infrastructure at home.

 

[Steinlight]

"GOP hawks" would also get rid of ISIS....

Not really, ISIS would just bomb civilians and kill US soldiers, and another ISIS would just pop up the moment the US leaves.

That's why you don't leave. US will move in again and be there for the long haul next time around.

Only if the lunatics in the GOP get back in power

Obama very likely will move in by the end of his term if Iraq continues to fall, Hilary certainly would as well. At this point, the goal is to undermine the Iranian backed Iraqi governent. Once ISIS closes in on Baghdad, the US has its casus belli to move in and prevent that from happening. They sure as hell won't let Baghdad fall to ISIS. But they want to create as much chaos for the Iranians and their militias at the moment to make the government's position untenable.

I'm not going to be presumptuous, so this isn't a direct response to what you wrote...but it just occurred to me how nice it would be to see Iran and ISIS fighting over Iraq, and what would we lose if either one of them won?

Exactly. Have ISIS fight Iran and move in to pick up the pieces afterwards. The Iraqis will be begging the US to stay long term like in Germany after that. And they won't have much of a choice as they will be in no position to dictate terms. The US military will be the only thing keeping that basket case together.

 

[protectionist]

Rand Paul ISIS Exists And Grows Stronger Because Of GOP Hawks

Arms were given to the Middle East indiscriminately indeed and gone to Islamic State militants. And indeed GOP hawks wanted to eliminate both President Assad and ISIS. But pay attention, he said “They created these people”. So Rand blames his party members for creating Islamic State.

This is clearly the end of Weeds Head's chances to get the GOP nomination. It should also be the end of his short career in politics. How he could ever be re-elected as a Senator is hard to imagine. First the Patriot Act filibuster and now this. This guy is an isolationist loon just like his father was.