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i take it you're from an extremely religious background.
So you agree with me? Cool!
Actually, my parents sang in a church choir but weren't at all religious. So I know a lot about the bible... but wasn't raised like that.
They couldn't find any where else to sing?
It's not a big deal..but iit sounds unbelievable.
i take it you're from an extremely religious background.
So you agree with me? Cool!
Actually, my parents sang in a church choir but weren't at all religious. So I know a lot about the bible... but wasn't raised like that.
i know an intellectual vacuum when i see one.
So you agree with me? Cool!
Actually, my parents sang in a church choir but weren't at all religious. So I know a lot about the bible... but wasn't raised like that.
They couldn't find any where else to sing?
It's not a big deal..but iit sounds unbelievable.
My mother was a voice teacher and got paid to sing there, you're the cuckoo.
My parents took me to Sunday school every weekend. At about 8-9 years old I was scolded (and my parents were removed from the sermon for said scolding) for asking too many why questions. If an 8 year old can figure out religion is a thinly veiled attempt at brain washing by fear mongering; why are adults so easily brain washed? And both my parent were (are) Atheists too.
My parents took me to Sunday school every weekend. At about 8-9 years old I was scolded (and my parents were removed from the sermon for said scolding) for asking too many why questions. If an 8 year old can figure out religion is a thinly veiled attempt at brain washing by fear mongering; why are adults so easily brain washed? And both my parent were (are) Atheists too.
You and your parents undoubtedly have trouble with authority and authority figures.
My parents took me to Sunday school every weekend. At about 8-9 years old I was scolded (and my parents were removed from the sermon for said scolding) for asking too many why questions. If an 8 year old can figure out religion is a thinly veiled attempt at brain washing by fear mongering; why are adults so easily brain washed? And both my parent were (are) Atheists too.
You and your parents undoubtedly have trouble with authority and authority figures.
My parents took me to Sunday school every weekend. At about 8-9 years old I was scolded (and my parents were removed from the sermon for said scolding) for asking too many why questions. If an 8 year old can figure out religion is a thinly veiled attempt at brain washing by fear mongering; why are adults so easily brain washed? And both my parent were (are) Atheists too.
You and your parents undoubtedly have trouble with authority and authority figures.
Ignorance is bliss...especially when assuming...
Authority, no. Blind faith and fairy tales, yes.
You and your parents undoubtedly have trouble with authority and authority figures.
Ignorance is bliss...especially when assuming...
Authority, no. Blind faith and fairy tales, yes.
That's your opinion, and that's fine. What I am stating is that it takes greater blind faith and fairy philosophy to be an atheist than to believe. However, I doubt anyone is making you believe something you don't want to believe.
I am always confused when this question arises. It makes no sense to me why anyone of faith would ever come to this crossroads. If you are a typical Christian and believe in heaven and hell then the price for non belief is eternal separation from God, the WORST fate possible to any human being. How could you not raise your children in faith if that is what the outcome is? I do not neglect to teach my children right from wrong because "they should choose that themselves!" Should I not teach my children murder and theft is wrong or let them find that on personal choice? If they end up in jail, oh well that was their choice never mind I never taught them it was wrong.So, I'm going to be an uncle... again.
An interesting debate has come up about raising kids, and whether it is a best bet to raise kids in a particular religious tradition, or inform them and expose them to options and let them choose for themselves.
Now, my brother and I had no choices, particularly. We were baptized and all and before we could remember we were part of a Christian, Catholic tradition. We went to Catholic schools, were alter boys, all of that. I support this approach because I feel that half the purpose of faith is to raise kids in it and expose them to the world through the 'what would Jesus do' perspective.
Going to university, I encountered some of the kids who were wrapping up the quest which my sister-in-law condones. I found many of these folks to have missed the point. The newly-acquainted to faith adult may be beautiful for some, but I would not want my kin to fit that mold, to put it tactfully.
I could be missing something from my brainwashed perspective, and I invite y'all to discuss.
I am agnostic, but my son goes to a christian day care, and I am actually going to start going to church again so he can go to sunday school. I loved sunday school and vacation bible school as a child, plus I want my son to make up his own mind. I will also teach him to respect all beliefs.
And next year when he enters pre school I am thinking about sending him to catholic school, until he is in the first grade. The Catholic school system here is great, and it has all day pre school and kindergarten, and it is cheaper than day care.
Way to go.
I am always confused when this question arises. It makes no sense to me why anyone of faith would ever come to this crossroads. If you are a typical Christian and believe in heaven and hell then the price for non belief is eternal separation from God, the WORST fate possible to any human being. How could you not raise your children in faith if that is what the outcome is? I do not neglect to teach my children right from wrong because "they should choose that themselves!" Should I not teach my children murder and theft is wrong or let them find that on personal choice? If they end up in jail, oh well that was their choice never mind I never taught them it was wrong.So, I'm going to be an uncle... again.
An interesting debate has come up about raising kids, and whether it is a best bet to raise kids in a particular religious tradition, or inform them and expose them to options and let them choose for themselves.
Now, my brother and I had no choices, particularly. We were baptized and all and before we could remember we were part of a Christian, Catholic tradition. We went to Catholic schools, were alter boys, all of that. I support this approach because I feel that half the purpose of faith is to raise kids in it and expose them to the world through the 'what would Jesus do' perspective.
Going to university, I encountered some of the kids who were wrapping up the quest which my sister-in-law condones. I found many of these folks to have missed the point. The newly-acquainted to faith adult may be beautiful for some, but I would not want my kin to fit that mold, to put it tactfully.
I could be missing something from my brainwashed perspective, and I invite y'all to discuss.
It is our job as parents to instill our children with morality and values that we ourselves inspire to have. People do not agree on what those are and you cannot and should not shelter your children from the choices out there but you do need to prepare them for those choices. Your children will be exposed to other religions and other moralities but you should have provided them with the tools to face them. In the end, no matter what you have taught them it will be their choice, the difference is whether or not you have given them the tools to make that choice or not.
Hope this helps
I am always confused when this question arises. It makes no sense to me why anyone of faith would ever come to this crossroads. If you are a typical Christian and believe in heaven and hell then the price for non belief is eternal separation from God, the WORST fate possible to any human being. How could you not raise your children in faith if that is what the outcome is? I do not neglect to teach my children right from wrong because "they should choose that themselves!" Should I not teach my children murder and theft is wrong or let them find that on personal choice? If they end up in jail, oh well that was their choice never mind I never taught them it was wrong.So, I'm going to be an uncle... again.
An interesting debate has come up about raising kids, and whether it is a best bet to raise kids in a particular religious tradition, or inform them and expose them to options and let them choose for themselves.
Now, my brother and I had no choices, particularly. We were baptized and all and before we could remember we were part of a Christian, Catholic tradition. We went to Catholic schools, were alter boys, all of that. I support this approach because I feel that half the purpose of faith is to raise kids in it and expose them to the world through the 'what would Jesus do' perspective.
Going to university, I encountered some of the kids who were wrapping up the quest which my sister-in-law condones. I found many of these folks to have missed the point. The newly-acquainted to faith adult may be beautiful for some, but I would not want my kin to fit that mold, to put it tactfully.
I could be missing something from my brainwashed perspective, and I invite y'all to discuss.
It is our job as parents to instill our children with morality and values that we ourselves inspire to have. People do not agree on what those are and you cannot and should not shelter your children from the choices out there but you do need to prepare them for those choices. Your children will be exposed to other religions and other moralities but you should have provided them with the tools to face them. In the end, no matter what you have taught them it will be their choice, the difference is whether or not you have given them the tools to make that choice or not.
Hope this helps
I agree with almost all of what you have written, and would supplement it only with making sure the children are also skilled in critical thinking skills so they can recognize their own bias when investigating an issue.
to tell you the truth i've never considered the brimstone perspective on it. in defense of the sis-in-law, i think that she would displace the faith-specific elements of spirituality, morality and community with nebulous poly-faith concepts of some kind. one reason why even a brimstoner would have to consider is their spouse in such a debate as this where their opinions are opposed on the matter.I am always confused when this question arises. It makes no sense to me why anyone of faith would ever come to this crossroads. If you are a typical Christian and believe in heaven and hell then the price for non belief is eternal separation from God, the WORST fate possible to any human being. How could you not raise your children in faith if that is what the outcome is? I do not neglect to teach my children right from wrong because "they should choose that themselves!" Should I not teach my children murder and theft is wrong or let them find that on personal choice? If they end up in jail, oh well that was their choice never mind I never taught them it was wrong.
It is our job as parents to instill our children with morality and values that we ourselves inspire to have. People do not agree on what those are and you cannot and should not shelter your children from the choices out there but you do need to prepare them for those choices. Your children will be exposed to other religions and other moralities but you should have provided them with the tools to face them. In the end, no matter what you have taught them it will be their choice, the difference is whether or not you have given them the tools to make that choice or not.
Hope this helps
I agree with almost all of what you have written, and would supplement it only with making sure the children are also skilled in critical thinking skills so they can recognize their own bias when investigating an issue.
+1. Critical thinking is a very important tool and will also help them find and solidify their own beliefs.
Raise them to fear the wrath of an Angry God. Raise them to know why all other religions are stupid and to be avoided at any cost. Spare the Rod and you will spoil the child. Raise them to totally respect authority, especially from their father and mother, and you will have done a darn good thing.
Any weakness in raising children invites the Devil into their lives and can result in their destruction. You will only have yourself to blame if that happens.
Look around you at the soaring crime rates, the abuse of drugs, and giving and taking in marriage and all the other sins that God says he will kill people for if they do not change their ways, and you will know how important it is to raise the Children the correct way.
i dont follow your logic with that.Ignorance is bliss...especially when assuming...
Authority, no. Blind faith and fairy tales, yes.
That's your opinion, and that's fine. What I am stating is that it takes greater blind faith and fairy philosophy to be an atheist than to believe. However, I doubt anyone is making you believe something you don't want to believe.
It takes JUST AS MUCH faith to be an atheist as it does to believe in an invisible superbeing that lives in another dimension. Agnostic is the only possibly thing for an intelligent person to be.
