Racial disparities persist despite Obama election

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    Racial disparities persist despite Obama election | AP | 11/24/2008

    Racial disparities persist despite Obama election
    STEPHEN OHLEMACHER

    The Associated Press

    WASHINGTON - The day after Barack Obama was elected president, Kari Fulton heard a white colleague proclaim that racism in America is dead.

    She cringed, worrying it might be a sign of flagging interest in the fight against discrimination.

    "In reality, racism is still very much alive and well," said Fulton, who graduated last year from Howard University, a historically black college in the nation's capital.

    Obama's election has generated a euphoria among black Americans that is palpable. For some, the weight of history has finally been eased after generations of struggling for equality. But amid the postelection glow of racial harmony lurks a sobering fact: Racial disparities persist , in just about every measurable form , and they won't simply melt away because the nation has a black president.

    Fulton, 23, was part of a group of young black activists from across the country who worked to register and turn out young black voters in the presidential election. The National Coalition on Black Civic Participation brought the group together shortly after the election to learn about converting their enthusiasm into ongoing political activism.

    "Election Day was just the beginning," said Fulton, who lives in Washington and works as an organizer for the Environmental Justice and Climate Change Initiative. "People don't expect President Obama to be a superhero. We have to solve our own problems."..........
     
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    Racism is dead?

    What a goofy notion.

    About as goofy as the fall of the Soviet empire was the end of history.

    Racism (xenophobia generally, of which racist is but one aspect) is a built in aspect of human nature.

    I have been told, (but have not been able to confirm it), that the oldest written message ever found (a written communication that was not basically just an accounting entry , I mean) was a fragment of something longer which read:

    "When you meet a stranger on the road, kill him."

    Distrust of "the other" is a natural a human respeonse as the urge to want to connect with another.

    It is human nature to bond into groups and distrust those who are percieved as not part of that group.

    Racism is but one aspect of that human nature.
     
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    there always has been racism and there always will be racism.

    just don't be so narrow minded as to define racism as white against black only.
     
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    No one has defined racism that way[though the history of America has predominately been this way] so there's no need to build up a strawman argument to knock down.
     
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    not a straw man, just a caveat
     
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    The differences between races are INHERENT IN THE GENES. Blacks are less intelligent because evolution bred them that way. President Obama can't change that.
     
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    Idiot, dream on with your nonsense, Europe had civilization long *AFTER* Africa.
     
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    I am always amazed that people refuse to accept this simple fact because it does not suit their politics.
     
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    I suspect the reason people cannot accept that fact is because race doesn't necessarily have to be the thing which defines "the other".

    "The other" is entirely a question of the group's sense of self-identity.

    Language and culture is more often what consitutes "the other" because typically there was not other races to worry about.

    But "the other" can be entirely a man made creation and one which really makes almost no sense, too.

    For example, in the last 40 years or so, this nation has devolved to the point where in the minds of a whole lot of people "the other" has become either liberals or conservatives as much as people of another races.

    Much thanks to people like Rush Limbough for making that happen, too, I might add.

    Like I said elsewhere, if a group doesn't have an "other" to hate, they'll often invent one.

    Why?

    Generally speaking their leaders create that otherness in order to manipulate their followers.

    Why?

    Because having an outsider enemy is a grand way of developing a sense of group identity

    That's why so called "liberals" was demonized by neo-Republican movement, in my opinion.

    The Republican party was shrinking because it really did mostly represent the afffluent in this nation and was very outnumbered. So it needed to find a class of not-affluent Americans that would swell it ranks.

    By demonizing so called liberalism, they recruited from the holy roller class, and from the shopkeeper class in a way that, previously, the blueblood old-moneyed Republican party really could not.

    Xenophobia is a wonder tool with which leaders can manipulate followers, folks.

    Basically humans, being social animals, means that everyone wants to belong to the group, and in order for belonging to be meanful, somebody has to NOT belong, too.

    Hence, where there might not be any rational reason for including or excluding people for the group, there is still a good reason to create that "other " class, just to create a cohesive sense of group identity.

    The very best thing that could happen to humankind, assuming we wanted to see mankind develop a sense of brotherly love, I mean, would be for aliens to invade from outer space.

    Suddenly Black, White, Mostlem Christian, all those basically irrevelent issues would become meaningless to us, because our sense of self would be HUMAN, rather than some subspecies of humanity.
     
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    edi, great post. I don't now about the Republican (I am not so registered) comment, but the rest I agree with.
     

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