quote from nuremberg trials still highly relevant today

[blu]

ha!


here ya george......i looked this up for you specifically

The Big Lie (German: Große Lüge) is a propaganda technique. The expression was coined by Adolf Hitler, when he dictated his 1925 book Mein Kampf, for a lie so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously."

Big Lie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"The phrase was also used in a report prepared during the war by the United States Office of Strategic Services in describing Hitler's psychological profile:[3][4]

"His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.[5]"

Does this sound like anyone you've ever voted for?

Big Lie - Wiki

I didn't vote for obama....oh and McCain neither...sorry.

stupid deflections again who people voted for is alwayss the last stand of someone defeated in debate

 

[blu]

Perhaps you should report people who disagree to [email protected].

you are either with us or with the terrorists

 

[JBeukema]

Claiming we are no better then the Nazi's is ignorant to the extreme.

Who said that?

Are you dishonest, retarded, or both?

 

[JBeukema]

Another view of war that's still relevant:

"The choice facing the world is 'stark and dreadful and inescapable: shall we put an end to the human race; or shall mankind renounce war?'"

Albert Einstein and Bertrand Russell quoted in Noam Chomsky's Failed States copyright 2006 P.3

ha!


here ya george......i looked this up for you specifically

The Big Lie (German: Große Lüge) is a propaganda technique. The expression was coined by Adolf Hitler, when he dictated his 1925 book Mein Kampf, for a lie so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously."

Big Lie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"The phrase was also used in a report prepared during the war by the United States Office of Strategic Services in describing Hitler's psychological profile:[3][4]

"His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.[5]"

Does this sound like anyone you've ever voted for?

Big Lie - Wiki

Ms Thatcher?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Really?

Yup. Apparently the point is that George Bush is a Nazi follower of Goehring because he lied us into war just Goehring predicted.
Frankly the old Bush is Hitler meme is geting kind of stale. So is Blu and the usual anti American crowd here.
I wonder if these same geniuses said the same thing about WW2.

george bush wasn't a nazi, but his granddad prescott was. it took an act of congress for him to pull his funding of hitler

And Blu proves the point.

 

[Trajan]

"The phrase was also used in a report prepared during the war by the United States Office of Strategic Services in describing Hitler's psychological profile:[3][4]

"His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.[5]"

Does this sound like anyone you've ever voted for?

Big Lie - Wiki

I didn't vote for obama....oh and McCain neither...sorry.

Baldwin or Barr?

I wrote in Paul.

I wasn't quiet about it at the polling place either...

 

[Trajan]

I bet there's a quote from some Roman Empire general making the same point, just articulated differently.

While I think social media could become a hedge against the dissemination of government propaganda, the debate tactics of "with us or against us" can still be effective because it pulls on peoples guilt trips, especially when soldiers and flag-waving are involved.

And it doesn't even need to be confined to war.

Facilis descensus averno....

more apropos ala nazis? ...Silent leges inter arma....

 

[JBeukema]

Claiming we are no better then the Nazi's is ignorant to the extreme.

Who said that?

Are you dishonest, retarded, or both?

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[jillian]

Claiming we are no better then the Nazi's is ignorant to the extreme. But then any lie is acceptable to the Liberal. By the way Blu? Why didn't Obama and the Democrats stop these supposed immoral wars?

poor rgs... totally gone.

if you hate it, it must be "ALL" "liberals" or "lefties" or anything else you want to make up in your little swiss cheese mind.

 

[Barb]

Claiming we are no better then the Nazi's is ignorant to the extreme. But then any lie is acceptable to the Liberal. By the way Blu? Why didn't Obama and the Democrats stop these supposed immoral wars?

A reference to the structurally entrapping rhetoric employed at that time is not "claiming we are no better than...yadda, yadda, yadda...," and I suspect you know it.

That stuff is studied. What worked is used. Advertisers do it, politicians do it, interest organizations and think tanks do it.
Religions do it.
WE do it.
THEY do it.
Men do it. Women do it.
The trick is to recognize it when it it being done.
The other trick is the "yadda, yadda, yadda..." deflection.

 

[Barb]

What Goering said is applicable only a Nationalist-socialist or fascist society where the government controls information. Why do you think thousand year old civilizations like Egypt still live in dirt poverty? Freedom you fools. The USA is the greatest Country the world has ever known because of freedom. The first item in the Bill of Rights gives freedom to the press. The Constitution allows us to change presidents every four years and congressmen every two years and shorter than that if necessary. Anyone who would would take a statement like this from a Nazi and try to apply it to the United States is an ignorant fool.

Really?
Democracy?s invisible line - Le Monde diplomatique - English edition

The US writer Noam Chomsky talks about the mechanisms behind modern communication, an essential instrument of government in democratic countries – as important to our governments as propaganda is to a dictatorship.
by Noam Chomsky and Daniel Mermet

Look at the US federal budget. Most Americans want less military spending and more welfare expenditure, credits for the United Nations, and economic and international humanitarian aid. They also want to cancel the tax reductions decided by President George Bush for the benefit of the biggest taxpayers.

On all these topics, White House policy is completely at odds with what public opinion wants. But the media rarely publish the polls that highlight this persistent public opposition. Not only are citizens excluded from political power, they are also kept in a state of ignorance as to the true state of public opinion.

It is one of the big differences between the propaganda system of a totalitarian state and the way democratic societies go about things. Exaggerating slightly, in totalitarian countries the state decides the official line and everyone must then comply. Democratic societies operate differently. The line is never presented as such, merely implied. This involves brainwashing people who are still at liberty. Even the passionate debates in the main media stay within the bounds of commonly accepted, implicit rules, which sideline a large number of contrary views. The system of control in democratic societies is extremely effective. We do not notice the line any more than we notice the air we breathe. We sometimes even imagine we are seeing a lively debate. The system of control is much more powerful than in totalitarian systems.

Please read the rest. Its kind of important.

Democracy?s invisible line - Le Monde diplomatique - English edition

 

[strollingbones]

Yup. Apparently the point is that George Bush is a Nazi follower of Goehring because he lied us into war just Goehring predicted.
Frankly the old Bush is Hitler meme is geting kind of stale. So is Blu and the usual anti American crowd here.
I wonder if these same geniuses said the same thing about WW2.

george bush wasn't a nazi, but his granddad prescott was. it took an act of congress for him to pull his funding of hitler

And Blu proves the point.

by telling the truth about the bush family?

 

[blu]

Yup. Apparently the point is that George Bush is a Nazi follower of Goehring because he lied us into war just Goehring predicted.
Frankly the old Bush is Hitler meme is geting kind of stale. So is Blu and the usual anti American crowd here.
I wonder if these same geniuses said the same thing about WW2.

george bush wasn't a nazi, but his granddad prescott was. it took an act of congress for him to pull his funding of hitler

And Blu proves the point.

by posting the truth? too bad you are an idiot

 

[daveman]

Perhaps you should report people who disagree to [email protected].

you are either with us or with the terrorists

And who is Hasan Akbar? He was a US Army Soldier who decided he was with the terrorists. The insane-looking woman pictured seems to be with the terrorists, too.

 

[georgephillip]

Claiming we are no better then the Nazi's is ignorant to the extreme. But then any lie is acceptable to the Liberal. By the way Blu? Why didn't Obama and the Democrats stop these supposed immoral wars?

A reference to the structurally entrapping rhetoric employed at that time is not "claiming we are no better than...yadda, yadda, yadda...," and I suspect you know it.

That stuff is studied. What worked is used. Advertisers do it, politicians do it, interest organizations and think tanks do it.
Religions do it.
WE do it.
THEY do it.
Men do it. Women do it.
The trick is to recognize it when it it being done.
The other trick is the "yadda, yadda, yadda..." deflection.

"All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.

"It works the same in every country."

If the quote above qualifies as "structurally entrapping rhetoric" it's worked for church and state for thousands of years, i.e., even before the birth of the first nation states.

It seems to work as well in societies with 90% illiteracy rates as in those cultures with the exact opposite literacy level. It taps into the same violence that drives Super Bowl ratings (and advertising prices)

And if Einstein and Russell were right, it will destroy this specie likely within the lifetimes of many alive today.

Maybe it's Natural Selection?

Any specie that kills its young for money or glory is hardwired for self-destruction??

 

[georgephillip]

Perhaps you should report people who disagree to [email protected].

you are either with us or with the terrorists

And who is Hasan Akbar? He was a US Army Soldier who decided he was with the terrorists. The insane-looking woman pictured seems to be with the terrorists, too.

What's your definition of "terrorist?"

Most standard descriptions involve taking innocent civilian lives for political, religious, or economic ends.

Hasan Akbar- Wiki

 

[daveman]

you are either with us or with the terrorists

And who is Hasan Akbar? He was a US Army Soldier who decided he was with the terrorists. The insane-looking woman pictured seems to be with the terrorists, too.

What's your definition of "terrorist?"

Most standard descriptions involve taking innocent civilian lives for political, religious, or economic ends.

Hasan Akbar- Wiki

Akbar sided with the terrorists, moron.

 

[georgephillip]

And who is Hasan Akbar? He was a US Army Soldier who decided he was with the terrorists. The insane-looking woman pictured seems to be with the terrorists, too.

What's your definition of "terrorist?"

Most standard descriptions involve taking innocent civilian lives for political, religious, or economic ends.

Hasan Akbar- Wiki

Akbar sided with the terrorists, moron.

Are you even capable of considering the possibility that you are not one of the "good" guys?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

you are either with us or with the terrorists

And who is Hasan Akbar? He was a US Army Soldier who decided he was with the terrorists. The insane-looking woman pictured seems to be with the terrorists, too.

What's your definition of "terrorist?"

Most standard descriptions involve taking innocent civilian lives for political, religious, or economic ends.

Hasan Akbar- Wiki

Or actively supporting them with money help or materials. She is helping a known terrorist by advocating he be freed.

 

[daveman]

What's your definition of "terrorist?"

Most standard descriptions involve taking innocent civilian lives for political, religious, or economic ends.

Hasan Akbar- Wiki

Akbar sided with the terrorists, moron.

Are you even capable of considering the possibility that you are not one of the "good" guys?

What a good little Chomskybot you are. I'll ask again: If America sucks so bad, why are you here?