Quinnipiac Poll May 1st, 2007

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    "If you had to choose, which would you favor: the U.S. setting a timetable for removing its troops from Iraq and sticking to that timetable regardless of what is happening in Iraq, or the U.S. keeping troops in Iraq as long as necessary to secure the country, even if that takes many more years?"

    Setting a Timetable for Removing Troops 57%
    Keeping Troops as Long as Necessary 39%
    Unsure 3%


    I think that the longer this debacle in Iraq goes on and the longer the right continues to try and overplay the fear card and lump all those Iraqis fighting us and one another into some "one-size-fits-all--all-ragheads-are-our-enemy" "terrorist" category and ignore the fact that most of the folks killing US and killing Iraqis in Iraq are just sunni and shiite Iraqi citizens and NOT members of Al Qaeda or other groups bent on our destruction... the more the tide will continue to shift as Americans realize the repetitive idiocy of the administration's position. I think it is time to let the Iraqis stand on their own. Our own Vice President has stated that the Al Qaeda fighters in Iraq are nothing but a handful of deadenders in their final throes. How in the world can an army of 150 thousand Iraqi soldiers who have been trained for three years by the United States not be able to handle a handful of deadenders in their final throes? We have a war to fight against Islamic extremists. We can't afford to waste any more men money or time in Iraq. American people want us out...a majority of Iraqis believe that things will be better if we leave.... a majority of Iraqis support acts of violence against us! We toppled their dictator. We provided them with security while they wrote a constitution and held three free elections. We trained their military. They now want us out. They approve of attacks against us... I believe it is time to go. .
     
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    SURE!

    All based on a poll taken at a bastion of liberalism in backwoods Maine. Makes about as much sense as taking a poll of soldiers and asking them what we should or should not do...as I recall that was something you were dead set against.
     
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    I dont get it, conservatives basically ignore polls, and liberals are too obsessed with them? Well dont you think, that at least a tiny bit of this country should have some influence from its people? As in, look at the polls!!!

    We dont have to create our foreign policy based on polls, but the least this administration could do, is LISTEN to its people once in a while. And its people dont want to be in IRAQ for another 12 years like viet-nam.

    Im not as far left as the bush bashers, but I would like for some people on the right to LISTEN to the people, rather than TELLING them what to believe and when to be scared.
     
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    well... a few quick points about the Quinnipiac poll.

    1. It is a nationally recognized poll. Here is a link about it:

    http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x271.xml

    from that link:

    Frequently cited by journalists, public officials and researchers, the independent Quinnipiac University Poll regularly surveys residents in Connecticut, Florida, New York, New Jersey, Ohio, Pennsylvania and nationwide about political races, state and national elections, and issues of public concern, such as schools, taxes, transportation, municipal services and the environment.

    Known for its exactness and thoroughness, the Quinnipiac poll was selected a "winner" by the New York Post for the most accurate prediction on the Schumer-D'Amato Senate race in 1998, and results are featured regularly in The New York Times, The Washington Post, USA Today, The Wall Street Journal and on national network news broadcasts.


    2. Quinnipiac University is in Hamden, Connecticut, far from the backwoods of Maine.


    3. Taking a poll of what AMERICAN citizens want to do with their military is completely sensible and totally different that asking member of the military what America ought to do with the military.

    I hoped that cleared that up for you.
     
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    Polls can and are "fixed". Even nationally recognized ones. There are a lot of ways to arrange to get the 'answer" you want. One way of course is to ask the questions in the right area, or by using the right system ( say a phone poll) in the area.

    Another way is to word the questions to get the expected response. Polls are not worth the paper they are printed on. They don't "represent" what the people want.
     
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    Most polls do not report how a majoirty of the voters do not want to surrender in Iraq, and how if the veto cannot be defeated - they want the troops to get the funds they need

    MM - where is the link to the poll itself so we can read ALL the questions?
     
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    Libs do not care what the troops have to say in this instance. Most want to stay and finish the job
     
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    I think as long as the MSM and the left continue to bombard the people of this nation with their sense of hopelessness and failure, it's going to tend to cause people to make uneducated choices.

    There IS a way to secure Iraq via military force and run these insurgents, on whatever side they choose, into the hills. It worked just fine in Afghanistan where we were less concerned with politics and more concerned with accomplishing the mission.

    I don't understand why a US failure would be considered a victory by ANY American, unless they put their partisan politics ahead of the Nation; which, I consider to be bullshit of the highest order.
     
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    I hate to think OBL was right - Americans do not have the stomach for a fight anymore

    I pray to God he is wrong.
     
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    Wake up. We left out balls for staying the fight through to the end somewhere on the other side of Korea. Everything since has either been short and sweet, or turned into a complete political debacle.
     

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