QUESTION:..How is job market "turning the corner.."

[iamwhatiseem]

During the Democrat convention there was a lot of talk about how we are turning the corner on job creation.
Hmm...we have "created" 153,000 fewer jobs so far this year than at the same time last year...so how is this an improvement again??

 

[mascale]

The economy stalled in Spring of last year due to world natural disasters. Northern Japan is expected to be visiting the West Coat: At least through 2014, for example.

So globally, (1) Japan was tanking, (2) Europe was tanking, and (3) natural disasters in the United States were under way, year 1--Since there is no such thing as Global Warming(?)! Then (4), businesses were sitting on the sidelines, still skittish about the Economic Disaster personally, intentionally, and deliberately caused by the Bain Capital Supportive types of folks. Those types of folks not only caused "Helter Skelter" warfare--slaughtering, maiming, butchering, and disabling Americans In Uniform, and everyone else--overseas: They failed to provide a total marketplace economy to boot. Of the "Reagan Trajectory," those types of folks only spent on the already prosperous!

People were scared. Even last year, Spring stopped progress. People feared the Double Dip Recession: Even though the Democrats were still in the White House again!

Obama-Biden had engineered the "payroll tax holiday," and those results in spending showed up in the second half of last year. The Double-Dip did not happen.

Then this Spring happened. The Republicans had refused to provide the Obama-Biden jobs act of 2011, but had extended the payroll tax holiday. Gangbusters growth happened in Q1, and stalled in Q2. Q3 is still underway. This year, No major disasters had happened. Again, spending effects happened, and so a Spring Disaster did not. Only a slowing happened. August auto sales then kicked in really major, and "Back-To-School" was bigger than last year: Retail Sales are actually better now, than even last year.

In the "tepid" jobs report of today: Leisure and Hospitality--discretionary employment gains--actually led the way. Wallets are loosening, even at the restaurants.

"Double-Dip Recession" is nowhere even being mentioned, much less discussed: Even at RNC!

There is less fear of the future with the Democrats running the economy, even at RNC! Now things are easily said, "Turned Around!"

Even Europe is now taking steps to resolve its own credit problems.

Now all the Bain Capital types of wealth hoarding are more likely to get spent by the businesses that have it. That will not all be spent on "shovel-ready jobs," but eventually housing, plumbing, and local public works will be starting up. The non-shoveling labor will need new places to change their bras and pantyhose, and even their new boxer shorts. There will be a tax-base in place. Some of the hoarded business spending may be for new plants and buildings, even. Those will be tax-base creating.

Pro football quarterbacks will be able to do all kinds of ads for all kinds of undergarments: All thanks to DNC.

In California, the Brown Legacy is back. There will be a giant transportation project built in the Central Valley. Reno and Las Vegas will prosper, and maybe even Elko--maybe a better resort for the Prince of the Realm, in years yet to happen! Elko may be open to a bare-cheeked rider in one of the shows they have there(?)!

Pro Football quarterbacks: Still need to be shown that newer way!

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Prince Harry may be safer doing a Wild West Show, in the Old West, maybe like it was!)

 

[Rozman]

During the Democrat convention there was a lot of talk about how we are turning the corner on job creation.
Hmm...we have "created" 153,000 fewer jobs so far this year than at the same time last year...so how is this an improvement again??

Because Obama said so....

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Wow...mascale is pretty funny.
"No double-dip"...ok...
Well to have a double-dip - you have to have had the 2nd hump in order to fall again.
We haven't reached the 2nd hump. In fact, we haven't even came close.

 

[mascale]

Bottom-Feeder Fish rarely see a "hump" in forage to scavange, and so the Sharks and Killer Whales--and otters and dolphins--go amongst the "Hump" of prosperity and feed.

Iamwhatiseem Poster is equally stupid with Romney-Ryan, and Ann of the "StrangeLove Address!" Ryan-Riomney see a MediCare cap on payments to Mega-Wealthy Insurance Executives, Hospital Administrators, and Various Specialty Medical Profiteers: As stealing money to which the already prosperous are entitled. That is in their ads on the television stations. They Claim the Affordable Health Care Act is actually an excuse to steal from the already rich!

Actually, The Health Care Act caps on payments to the already prosperous are more like any grandparent, making a budget decision, to send money to the children so that the grandchildren can have some medical coverage too!

The Iamwhatiseemposter failure to see the turnaround "hump" is nowhere reflected in any analysis of anybody, anywhere. Romeny-Ryan concedes that a turnaround has happened.
What Romney-Ryan so far opposed is the counter to the "Reagan Trajectory" of taking all the federal money and spending it only on tiny niche of rich people, in the marketplace!

That is the Romney-Ryan Agenda! Romney made that his pitch of being a business-experienced person as usual. These people kill off the poor and middle class with no remorse!. They send investment money to people who are competent, like themselves, expecting that they will spend it amongst people competent like themselves.

They don't deny that!

The Romney-Ryan brand does not favor a free functioning market approach to business! That is their brand!

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Stupid White Eyes send wild ponies into box canyons only: Claiming that makes them free to roam great plains and foal like any other species. Mainly, White Eyes kill them off like cattle, in the same pens White Eyes herded them!)

 

[JakeStarkey]

In part, because we are not losing 700,000 jobs a month but actually are creating some.

 

[Mad Scientist]

How can the Economy "turn the corner"? I heard it was on old school phrase that originally meant "going down".

 

[The Rabbi]

In part, because we are not losing 700,000 jobs a month but actually are creating some.

How many months did we lose 700k? How many months has Obama been in office? What was the average UE rate for Bush's two terms?

 

[JakeStarkey]

How many straight months has the economy had plus for jobs?

How long has the GOP denied the President's economic programs?

How the public answers the two questions will answer who they elect.

 

[The Rabbi]

How many straight months has the economy had plus for jobs?

How long has the GOP denied the President's economic programs?

How the public answers the two questions will answer who they elect.

How many months has the jobs growth exceeded the population growth? (Answer: None)

How many years did the Democrats have unprecedented access to both the legislative and executive branch? (Answer: Two)

Who is to blame for the poor economy? (Answer: Obama. It will be Romney in a landslide).

Why are you a socket puppet for the Democrats?

 

[JakeStarkey]

I am a Republican, and you are a far right sock puppet for non-American interests.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

How many straight months has the economy had plus for jobs?

How long has the GOP denied the President's economic programs?

How the public answers the two questions will answer who they elect.

The economy has "created" 153,000 less jobs in 2012 than YTD 2011.
That is a figure that is unaltered or bastardized by creative mathematics.
It just sits there. 153,000 less jobs than last year. A simple number not affected by anything other than what it is.
Less jobs this year than last year.

 

[JakeStarkey]

So far, with four job reports to go. Still, compared to what the radical right GOP President and his Congress 6 of 8 years left us, compared to just how awful the situation was in in Jan 2009, this economy has come a long way, particularly in the stock market, which seniors gear their retirement income.

I hope Romney wins, because (1) he has isolated Ryan as the do-nothing veep, (2) will terrorize Mitchell and Boehner into being more afraid of him than the Democrats, (3) will destroy the remaining tatters of the Tea Party movement, and (4) will reach across the aisle to work with the other side.

All of which I have been asking for here a long time.

 

[mascale]

State and Local government are a current and continuing drag on the economy. In California, where the Liberal Democrats are solidly in control: There will be massive public works spending, just in the Central Valley alone. That is a turn around the corner. There will be major public, transportation spending.

Niche-Marketeer-Types, like the Romney-Ryan Brand, or like iamwhatiseem poster: Fail at understanding that the marketplace is inclusive of all the customers in the stores.

Rep. Ryan is famously so bad a budgeteer that he thinks that a Grandma, capping expeditures in one area--to send money to the children, to keep the grandchildren on the health plan--is guilty of a criminal act! Criminal Elder-Abuse more accurately describes the Niche-Marketeer-Type of Brand! In contrast, Grandma does not have to do that. "ObamaCare" capped Medicare Expenditures already, to expand health services in other parts of the plan! Even Romney is recently coming on board, very slowly, to the natinal Health Protection and Affordable Health Care plan.

Ryan proposed all kinds of spending cuts, instead of promoting widespread spending, in his failed budget concept.

An economic pause happend. starting in the spring. Remedy was passed in the Senate last year. Famous Niche-Marketeer, Rep. Cantor, widely touted that the House would not bring that to a vote! Other areas usually take over.

So in the mega-part of the economy, California, the turn-around will be a continuing factor, following the Brown-Family, public works spending brand. California unemployment rates are leading the nation--and inclusive of Nevada, so far. That will change, and soon enough.

Even Prince Harry wants to help change the Western Economies(?)! Las Vegas ShowGuys Is Even A new idea for America! Help Is on the Way!

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Ann of "StrangeLove Address" Even: Ecstatic at "Suuuuuuukcess!")

 

[ConstitutionONE]

Wow...mascale is pretty funny.
"No double-dip"...ok...
Well to have a double-dip - you have to have had the 2nd hump in order to fall again.
We haven't reached the 2nd hump. In fact, we haven't even came close.

you don't know anything at all about the Waltons and Wal Mart - cause your information under your signature is not accurate.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Walmart donates more thant iamwhatiseem and less than what ConstitutionalOne hopes.

Wal-Mart Announces Plan to Donate $2-Billion to the Nation's ...
philanthropy.com/article/Wal-Mart-Announces-Plan-to/65487/May 12, 2010 – Wal-Mart and its charitable foundation plan to give $250-million in cash ... That way Wal-Mart doesn't have to pay as much tax to the nation's ...
Wal-Mart Charity Evaluated
reclaimdemocracy.org/walmart/2005-06/charity.phpNov 21, 2005 – Much of Wal-Mart's philanthropy (as well as that of the Walton family) has been ... [The Walton money] does a tremendous amount of good. ... against the estate tax, the Waltons also give money to groups that generally favor ...
The 10 Most Charitable Companies in America - Yahoo! Finance
finance.yahoo.com/.../the-10-most-charitable-companies-in-america....Dec 2, 2011 – This holiday season, Wal-Mart is promoting charitable donation ... In 2010, Goldman Sachs was one of only two corporations to give ... My store - Fred Meyer - does fund raisers CONSTANTLY and raises a lot of money for charity too. .... How much actually goes to individuals and how much goes into the ...
How much does walmart donate to charity
wiki.answers.com › ... › Categories › Shopping › Retail Stores › WalmartHow much does walmart donate to charity? In: Walmart [Edit categories]. Answer: I do not know a running total per year, however I can tell you that Wal-Mart and ...
Walmart heirs give less than 1% to charity - here's the full list ...

 

[iamwhatiseem]

So far, with four job reports to go. Still, compared to what the radical right GOP President and his Congress 6 of 8 years left us, compared to just how awful the situation was in in Jan 2009, this economy has come a long way, particularly in the stock market, which seniors gear their retirement income.

I hope Romney wins, because (1) he has isolated Ryan as the do-nothing veep, (2) will terrorize Mitchell and Boehner into being more afraid of him than the Democrats, (3) will destroy the remaining tatters of the Tea Party movement, and (4) will reach across the aisle to work with the other side.

All of which I have been asking for here a long time.

You do realize that is a pathetic argument right?
All of you guys want to talk about 2009...and make all of your referenced arguments surrounding the worst year in 70 years (except for WallStreet - 2009 was the best year on record...maybe something is wrong with that picture?)
So do this...compare 2010, 2011 or 2012 to years BEFORE the collapse. Yuo guys just won't do that because it goes against the grain of what you have been fed.
We are indeed in a recovery when comparing to 2009. There is no argument against that statement. As there is no argument in the statement that so far 2012 - the private sector has produced 153,000 fewer jobs YTD than last year - there is no argument to that statement - which is why you avoid addresssing it specifically - and why an idiot like ConstitutionOne and mascale deflect from it.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You realize the pathetic here is only your response.

Everything I wrote is true. If the economy produces 50,000 jobs each of the next four months, your statement means nothing. Shoot, it means nothing now, as you are comparing one year to eight months.

Stop acting like a far lefty or a far right and trying to revise the real.

 

[The Rabbi]

So far, with four job reports to go. Still, compared to what the radical right GOP President and his Congress 6 of 8 years left us, compared to just how awful the situation was in in Jan 2009, this economy has come a long way, particularly in the stock market, which seniors gear their retirement income.

I hope Romney wins, because (1) he has isolated Ryan as the do-nothing veep, (2) will terrorize Mitchell and Boehner into being more afraid of him than the Democrats, (3) will destroy the remaining tatters of the Tea Party movement, and (4) will reach across the aisle to work with the other side.

All of which I have been asking for here a long time.

You do realize that is a pathetic argument right?
All of you guys want to talk about 2009...and make all of your referenced arguments surrounding the worst year in 70 years (except for WallStreet - 2009 was the best year on record...maybe something is wrong with that picture?)
So do this...compare 2010, 2011 or 2012 to years BEFORE the collapse. Yuo guys just won't do that because it goes against the grain of what you have been fed.
We are indeed in a recovery when comparing to 2009. There is no argument against that statement. As there is no argument in the statement that so far 2012 - the private sector has produced 153,000 fewer jobs YTD than last year - there is no argument to that statement - which is why you avoid addresssing it specifically - and why an idiot like ConstitutionOne and mascale deflect from it.

"Pathetic" is an apt description of "Jake, King of the Unsubstantitated Statement".

 

[iamwhatiseem]

You realize the pathetic here is only your response.

Everything I wrote is true. If the economy produces 50,000 jobs each of the next four months, your statement means nothing. Shoot, it means nothing now, as you are comparing one year to eight months.

Stop acting like a far lefty or a far right and trying to revise the real.

Uhh...add much?