Question for GOP: Does cutting education mean you've given up on jobs?

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Have Republicans just "given up"?

They are cutting:

Education
Rebuilding any infra structure
Investment in innovation or technology
They want to strip medicare of funding
Turn over any Health Care to Companies who pay tens of millions to their CEO and BOD
Turn Social Security over to stock markets now run by robots

Once they've squeezed the country dry and turned over every single bit of capital to the wealthy and to corporations, "then what"? It's not like they can "leave". US Currency is only as strong as the country.

What's the "goal"? The "end game"? Does the Republican base really think their leadership will do better than what "Bush" did? I know you want to blame it on Obama, but Obama and the Democrats have had to fight, not only the "filibuster party", but also the mess left by the "filibuster party".

At least answer, "With education cut, what kinds of jobs will be "available"?" Who wants to hire anyone with no education? And "Bible School" is NOT education. Unless, "No Jobs" is the plan. Doesn't seem like a very smart one. You could make more money with a growing economy. "Cut" is the opposite of "grow".
 
Apparently Rdean thinks no one will be educated if the Federal Government gets out of education and leaves it to the states like they are constitutionally mandated to do. So apparently all this spending on education isnt working so well in his case.

Since it is obvious that education takes more than money, perhaps we should try a different approach than throwing money at it.
 
Since the Progressive took over US education, we now have the worst educational system in the civilized world, happily graduating morons like Deany.

The DOE is DOA
 
We did just fine, actually exponentially better, prior to 1980 before the education dept started screwing things up. We could end it and homeland security tomorrow and be better off.
 
Cutting education means conservatives see it as just another ‘commodity’ to be acquired by those who can afford it. According to conservative dogma, public education is a ‘disincentive’ to hard work and sacrifice. And for those who fail to succeed, their children will go without an education, seen by the right as an acceptable consequence of poverty.
Apparently Rdean thinks no one will be educated if the Federal Government gets out of education and leaves it to the states like they are constitutionally mandated to do.

Please cite where in the Constitution the states are alone mandated to address the issue of public education.
 
Cutting education means conservatives see it as just another ‘commodity’ to be acquired by those who can afford it. According to conservative dogma, public education is a ‘disincentive’ to hard work and sacrifice. And for those who fail to succeed, their children will go without an education, seen by the right as an acceptable consequence of poverty.
Apparently Rdean thinks no one will be educated if the Federal Government gets out of education and leaves it to the states like they are constitutionally mandated to do.

Please cite where in the Constitution the states are alone mandated to address the issue of public education.

Wow!!

What a moron!

The Constitution does not work like that you moron!

You Fail Fail FAIL FAIL!!!
 
You should be able to demonstrate some fundamental knowledge of our system of government to be able to vote.

We have too many American Palestinians with a right of return voting against us.

You can be a Democrat and vote but you should not be a complete fucking moron and be allowed to vote
 
Since the Progressive took over US education, we now have the worst educational system in the civilized world, happily graduating morons like Deany.

The DOE is DOA
Little known fact....The original name of the DOE was going to be Department of Public Education.

For once, we almost got truth in advertising from the bureaucrats.
 
Have Republicans just "given up"?

They are cutting:

Education
Rebuilding any infra structure
Investment in innovation or technology
They want to strip medicare of funding
Turn over any Health Care to Companies who pay tens of millions to their CEO and BOD
Turn Social Security over to stock markets now run by robots

Once they've squeezed the country dry and turned over every single bit of capital to the wealthy and to corporations, "then what"? It's not like they can "leave". US Currency is only as strong as the country.

What's the "goal"? The "end game"? Does the Republican base really think their leadership will do better than what "Bush" did? I know you want to blame it on Obama, but Obama and the Democrats have had to fight, not only the "filibuster party", but also the mess left by the "filibuster party".

At least answer, "With education cut, what kinds of jobs will be "available"?" Who wants to hire anyone with no education? And "Bible School" is NOT education. Unless, "No Jobs" is the plan. Doesn't seem like a very smart one. You could make more money with a growing economy. "Cut" is the opposite of "grow".

Question for GOP: Does cutting education mean you've given up on jobs?


State of the union speech: Obama vows to focus on jobs

US president uses his first state of the union speech to promise he will make the creation of a million jobs his priority this year
28 January 2010

State of the union speech: Obama vows to focus on jobs | World news | guardian.co.uk

Barack Obama: Jobs a priority in 2011
1/1/11

Barack Obama: Jobs a priority in 2011 - Carol E. Lee - POLITICO.com




Question for GOP: Does cutting education mean you've given up on jobs?


Question- has Obama?
 
Have Republicans just "given up"?

They are cutting:

Education
Rebuilding any infra structure
Investment in innovation or technology
They want to strip medicare of funding
Turn over any Health Care to Companies who pay tens of millions to their CEO and BOD
Turn Social Security over to stock markets now run by robots

Once they've squeezed the country dry and turned over every single bit of capital to the wealthy and to corporations, "then what"? It's not like they can "leave". US Currency is only as strong as the country.

What's the "goal"? The "end game"? Does the Republican base really think their leadership will do better than what "Bush" did? I know you want to blame it on Obama, but Obama and the Democrats have had to fight, not only the "filibuster party", but also the mess left by the "filibuster party".

At least answer, "With education cut, what kinds of jobs will be "available"?" Who wants to hire anyone with no education? And "Bible School" is NOT education. Unless, "No Jobs" is the plan. Doesn't seem like a very smart one. You could make more money with a growing economy. "Cut" is the opposite of "grow".

Congratulations, not many posts carry so many half truths.
 
Have Republicans just "given up"?

They are cutting:

Education
Rebuilding any infra structure
Investment in innovation or technology
They want to strip medicare of funding
Turn over any Health Care to Companies who pay tens of millions to their CEO and BOD
Turn Social Security over to stock markets now run by robots

Once they've squeezed the country dry and turned over every single bit of capital to the wealthy and to corporations, "then what"? It's not like they can "leave". US Currency is only as strong as the country.

What's the "goal"? The "end game"? Does the Republican base really think their leadership will do better than what "Bush" did? I know you want to blame it on Obama, but Obama and the Democrats have had to fight, not only the "filibuster party", but also the mess left by the "filibuster party".

At least answer, "With education cut, what kinds of jobs will be "available"?" Who wants to hire anyone with no education? And "Bible School" is NOT education. Unless, "No Jobs" is the plan. Doesn't seem like a very smart one. You could make more money with a growing economy. "Cut" is the opposite of "grow".

Congratulations, not many posts carry so many half truths.
He floods the zone with liberoidal inanity, platitudes and hack boilerplate, so all that's left is to just point and laugh.
 
Since the Progressive took over US education, we now have the worst educational system in the civilized world, happily graduating morons like Deany.

The DOE is DOA

Your post is more accurate than you know. My oldest daughter didn't do well in highschool. Twice they tried to pass her claiming social equality bullshit. Had I not protested she would have graduated without the necessary math skills to compete with her peers for employment in the real world. You know the one where employers don't give a damn about hiring based on self esteem issues. The debate I had with school administrators was unbelievable. I only wish I could have recorded it. Their main excuse for wanting to promote her to the 11th grade was, get ready for it......"we fear a child's self esteem could be damaged to the point that their social skills may be damaged".
Can you believe that bs? I was stunned.
 
At least answer, "With education cut, what kinds of jobs will be "available"?" Who wants to hire anyone with no education?

The problem is the above is logical and pragmatic – per conservative dogma that’s not the government’s concern or problem, that’s the responsibility of your parents. Or you if your parents fail to afford you an education.

For conservatives, ‘free education’ is the last bastion of ‘accepted socialism’ in the Nation. Once eradicated parents will have no choice but to work harder to afford school for their children.

Remember that fear is a fundamental tenet of conservative dogma: fear of going hungry, fear of your children not going to school, fear of homelessness – if government provides food stamps, pubic schools, and housing assistance, that fear is gone, the incentive to do better eliminated.

This is why we hear conservatives advocating cutting everything – taxes, social programs, government departments, etc. All considered ‘disincentives’ to the natural order of the free market: ‘kill or be killed.’

Indeed, conservative dogma has its roots in Social Darwinism: the strong survive and the weak perish. Public education, social programs, ‘the government’ all interfere with the process of the distribution of goods and services to those truly deserving, making impossible the realization of the conservative Utopia.
 
At least answer, "With education cut, what kinds of jobs will be "available"?" Who wants to hire anyone with no education?

The problem is the above is logical and pragmatic – per conservative dogma that’s not the government’s concern or problem, that’s the responsibility of your parents. Or you if your parents fail to afford you an education.

For conservatives, ‘free education’ is the last bastion of ‘accepted socialism’ in the Nation. Once eradicated parents will have no choice but to work harder to afford school for their children.

Remember that fear is a fundamental tenet of conservative dogma: fear of going hungry, fear of your children not going to school, fear of homelessness – if government provides food stamps, pubic schools, and housing assistance, that fear is gone, the incentive to do better eliminated.

This is why we hear conservatives advocating cutting everything – taxes, social programs, government departments, etc. All considered ‘disincentives’ to the natural order of the free market: ‘kill or be killed.’

Indeed, conservative dogma has its roots in Social Darwinism: the strong survive and the weak perish. Public education, social programs, ‘the government’ all interfere with the process of the distribution of goods and services to those truly deserving, making impossible the realization of the conservative Utopia.


For conservatives, ‘free education’ is the last bastion of ‘accepted socialism’ in the Nation. Once eradicated parents will have no choice but to work harder to afford school for their children.

hackage beyond redemption....and that goes of the rest of your screed.
 
Have Republicans just "given up"?

They are cutting:
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Education
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I'd like to point out a flaw in your assumption that any cut in the Dept of Education would result in actual cuts to education out in the real America.

The federal government, for all it's grand expenditures in the Dept of Education, does not pay for the education of our children. The local government units, counties/townships through property taxes pay for teachers and administrator's salaries, buildings and grounds maintenance, transportation such as school bussing, and the sports programs to the extent they fail to be self sufficient. The rely on federal grants but probably the cost of the unfunded mandates they impose and the interference, outweighs those grants.

Books are paid for or rented by students in most schools, except for the poorest schools and districts.

The entire D of E could be eliminated with a huge savings and net improvement to our education in this country.
 
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Have Republicans just "given up"?

At least answer, "With education cut, what kinds of jobs will be "available"?" Who wants to hire anyone with no education? And "Bible School" is NOT education. Unless, "No Jobs" is the plan. Doesn't seem like a very smart one. You could make more money with a growing economy. "Cut" is the opposite of "grow".

Guy, the reason why education is in such bad shape is that educating the kids is so secondary to the AFT and NEA. You have 20% of kids graduating without being able to read their diplomas, you have inept teachers who can't be fired because the union protects them. In New York, they have a guy who was removed from the classroom for molesting a student 14 years ago, but he still pulls down a $97,000.00 salary for doing nothing.

Geezer teach in rubber room 13 years - NYPOST.com


The problem is NOT that the money isn't there. It's DOUBLED in the last 20 years, and we are getting the same crappy results.

Now you mention "Bible Schools" in your usually snide tone. The thing is, even though I am an atheist today, I was the fine product of a Catholic Education. (As evidenced by the the fact I can actually structure a sentence, something that you can get through 13 years of Public education and not necessarily accomplish.)

Do you know who I got to go to school with in Catholic Education in Chicago? All the wonderful "elites" of Illinois politics. I went to school with the daughter of Former Congressman Bill Lipinski. (His son Danny who is the current hereditary Congressman from the 3rd District went to school with my sister.) The High School I went to gave Chicago five mayors, including the one who just left. Obama, Clinton. They sent their kids to private religious schools, too.

Would you fly on an airline whose stockholders refused to put their family members on? Not for a second. YOu'd figure they know something you don't. But Democrats avoid the Public Schools like the plague for their own kids, take bags full of money from the teachers' unions, and then cry about how there isn't enough money when they still get the same awful results.

Best way to fix education- Privatize it. Let parents pick the school they want their kids to go to.

But you'd never go along with that.
 
Have Republicans just "given up"?

They are cutting:

Education
Rebuilding any infra structure
Investment in innovation or technology
They want to strip medicare of funding
Turn over any Health Care to Companies who pay tens of millions to their CEO and BOD
Turn Social Security over to stock markets now run by robots

Once they've squeezed the country dry and turned over every single bit of capital to the wealthy and to corporations, "then what"? It's not like they can "leave". US Currency is only as strong as the country.

What's the "goal"? The "end game"? Does the Republican base really think their leadership will do better than what "Bush" did? I know you want to blame it on Obama, but Obama and the Democrats have had to fight, not only the "filibuster party", but also the mess left by the "filibuster party".

At least answer, "With education cut, what kinds of jobs will be "available"?" Who wants to hire anyone with no education? And "Bible School" is NOT education. Unless, "No Jobs" is the plan. Doesn't seem like a very smart one. You could make more money with a growing economy. "Cut" is the opposite of "grow".

Question for GOP: Does cutting education mean you've given up on jobs?


State of the union speech: Obama vows to focus on jobs

US president uses his first state of the union speech to promise he will make the creation of a million jobs his priority this year
28 January 2010

State of the union speech: Obama vows to focus on jobs | World news | guardian.co.uk

Barack Obama: Jobs a priority in 2011
1/1/11

Barack Obama: Jobs a priority in 2011 - Carol E. Lee - POLITICO.com




Question for GOP: Does cutting education mean you've given up on jobs?


Question- has Obama?

No. You have to admit it's rough. Fighting a Republican Recession and Republicans at the same time. What are they doing to help the country? Why does it have to be ALL Democrats?
And what are the Democrats supposed to do? Help Republicans screw the Middle Class? I still can't believe that the Republican who apologized to BP became the head of the Energy Committee. Speaks volumes.
 
Have Republicans just "given up"?

They are cutting:

Education
Rebuilding any infra structure
Investment in innovation or technology
They want to strip medicare of funding
Turn over any Health Care to Companies who pay tens of millions to their CEO and BOD
Turn Social Security over to stock markets now run by robots

Once they've squeezed the country dry and turned over every single bit of capital to the wealthy and to corporations, "then what"? It's not like they can "leave". US Currency is only as strong as the country.

What's the "goal"? The "end game"? Does the Republican base really think their leadership will do better than what "Bush" did? I know you want to blame it on Obama, but Obama and the Democrats have had to fight, not only the "filibuster party", but also the mess left by the "filibuster party".

At least answer, "With education cut, what kinds of jobs will be "available"?" Who wants to hire anyone with no education? And "Bible School" is NOT education. Unless, "No Jobs" is the plan. Doesn't seem like a very smart one. You could make more money with a growing economy. "Cut" is the opposite of "grow".

Congratulations, not many posts carry so many half truths.

Which part is only half true?
 
Have Republicans just "given up"?

They are cutting:

Education
Rebuilding any infra structure
Investment in innovation or technology
They want to strip medicare of funding
Turn over any Health Care to Companies who pay tens of millions to their CEO and BOD
Turn Social Security over to stock markets now run by robots

Once they've squeezed the country dry and turned over every single bit of capital to the wealthy and to corporations, "then what"? It's not like they can "leave". US Currency is only as strong as the country.

What's the "goal"? The "end game"? Does the Republican base really think their leadership will do better than what "Bush" did? I know you want to blame it on Obama, but Obama and the Democrats have had to fight, not only the "filibuster party", but also the mess left by the "filibuster party".

At least answer, "With education cut, what kinds of jobs will be "available"?" Who wants to hire anyone with no education? And "Bible School" is NOT education. Unless, "No Jobs" is the plan. Doesn't seem like a very smart one. You could make more money with a growing economy. "Cut" is the opposite of "grow".

Congratulations, not many posts carry so many half truths.
He floods the zone with liberoidal inanity, platitudes and hack boilerplate, so all that's left is to just point and laugh.

You fuckers keeps saying that shit, but can't point out where it's wrong. You mean Republicans aren't cutting education? Republicans aren't blocking any investment in infrastructure? You don't want to turn over Medicare to HC companies? Because Ryan does.

Stop saying it's wrong if you can't say where.
 

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