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Question for democrat Socialists
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I don't think Norway has a shortage of any of those things. Trump's best buddy's country however is another matter.
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It's Democratic Socialism, you seem confused by the first part.
No such animal as Democratic Socialism.
Fascism and socialism are opposite ends of the spectrum son. Fascists are on the far right. Your team.DemocratIC socialists.Answer honestly
Fascist democratIC Socialists
Fascism and socialism are both collective forms of government. Thus they are fundamentally the same.
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Again you are moving the goal posts......................I SAID CERIMONY ...............Most states did that until some leftist asshats like you said they HAD TO MARRY GAYS at the Job................Again States are now getting OUT OF THE MARRAIGE business to AVOID the BS that came with it.No it isn't...........that is you forcing YOUR BELIEFS ONTO OTHERS.................and that is Why many States have just OPTED to no longer perform the cerimony.............You want gay marriage then you can go find someone to marry you who will do it.................Some DON'T AGREE and YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO FORCE THEM TO DO IT.You would force a court worker to perform a wedding for something they DON'T AGREE WITH.......Which is EXACTLY WHY some STATES REFUSE TO DO THE CERIMONY ANYMORE................To avoid FORCING OTHERS to do something against their religion.............BS.............If you want to be a Satanic cult member and sacrifice chickens in your home I simply don't care...............if you are GAY AND PROUD...........I don't have to agree and don't care that you are a NUT JOB..........................We don't push our religion on you.........
That is YOU ACCUSING OTHERS of what you do...........Like Solar Panels on your roof..........You want to build a home in California then YOU WILL PUT IN A SOLAR GRID.............That is a LEFTIST RELIGION FORCING others to DO YOUR RELIGION.............
I'm talking about you personally. I'm saying that the right has pushed for things that would fly in the face of personal liberty.
Anyway, glad to hear that you think all Americans have the right to marry someone of the same sex. It's nice to know that even some on the right endorse freedom.
We DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOUR LIFESTYLE BRO...........and WE DON'T.......Forced Acceptance doesn't work on us Lib.............we WILL NOT ACCEPT IT........and we are under No Obligation to do so.
Would I expect a 'court worker' to follow the law? Yes, yes I would. What a stupid argument.
You're upset because gay people can get a marriage certificate? Gee, nothing authoritarian about that in 2020.
If you are Gay and want to get married.......go find someone who agrees with it to marry your ass.
Crepitus
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No.Fascism and socialism are opposite ends of the spectrum son. Fascists are on the far right. Your team.DemocratIC socialists.Answer honestly
Fascist democratIC Socialists
Fascism and socialism are both collective forms of government. Thus they are fundamentally the same.
The same way they advance under a capitalist system. Democratic Socialism isn't about limiting upward advancement but rather is concerned about providing a base of equality so that everyone has a chance for that advancement.
No.Fascism and socialism are opposite ends of the spectrum son. Fascists are on the far right. Your team.DemocratIC socialists.Answer honestly
Fascist democratIC Socialists
Fascism and socialism are both collective forms of government. Thus they are fundamentally the same.
Yes. Tell the class the difference to the citizens living in fascist Germany and socialist Soviet Union.
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Nice moving the goal posts...........You know what I'm talking about...................and you refuse to engage because you are a DANG COWARD...........You are Full of it......................Unfunded Liabilities and unfunded pensions Guarantee we are SCREWED.........You are just playing the YOU BROKE THE LAMP ROUTINE that politicians play.We have something to say..........Take your SOCIALISM and stick it where the Sun doesn't shine Lib..........We don't want a NANNY Federal Gov't........................You do...............That is your Religion.............and it is beyond a shadow of a doubt why we are in debt up to our asses already......Maybe when you don't have anything to say...
Mandatory spending is the elephant inthe room.........and it's unfunded Liabilities GUARANTEE we are SCREWED........How did that happen.........SOCIALIST LIKE FDR are SCREWING US FROM THE GRAVE..............It was Unsustainable from the beginning.
Government is nothing more than a tool.
You might want to check with Trump's trillion dollar budget and the need to subsidize big business with your tax dollars.
The Constitution GAVE THE FEDERAL GOV'T ENUMERATED POWERS.........to prevent it from Getting too much power..............Now that it has too much power we have CREATED A MONSTER.
Again, why are you not going after all those 'unfunded liabilities' like subsidized agro and dirty energy? If they can't make it shouldn't they fail?
Aren't you at all upset that the deficit has gone up under Trump? Wait until he wants to balance the budget by lowering your social security and medicare benefits that you paid into.
No, you were talking about a 'court worker'. Whatever that is. Bailiffs?
We have a snowballs chance in hell of paying those bills coming.............and they are MOST CERTAINLY SOCIALIST PROGRAMS......
Social security and medicare? Yes they are socialist in nature. With Social security maybe we should stop pulling money out of it to pay for other shit and medicare is doing fine, both programs are very popular and they work.
The Federal Gov't should ONLY HAVE THE ENUMERATED POWERS then we wouldn't have this stinking debt and the DESTRUCTION of the Value of the Dollar..........We also wouldn't have so many Corrupt Politicians who join the Millionaires club after getting into office because they wouldn't be getting rich off the tax payers.........
Sorry, that ship sailed and there is literally hundreds of years of precedence. Now, again why it Trump raising the deficit?
Socialism HAS ALWAYS FAILED IN HISTORY.........and will again.
No, it's been pretty successful in this country and others.
I have a question, are commas socialist?
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Did you sniff glue as a child..........You stinking MORON...........It is SPECIFICALLY THOSE PROGRAMS that HAVE DAMNED OUR COUNTRY.........You are Full of it......................Unfunded Liabilities and unfunded pensions Guarantee we are SCREWED.........You are just playing the YOU BROKE THE LAMP ROUTINE that politicians play.We have something to say..........Take your SOCIALISM and stick it where the Sun doesn't shine Lib..........We don't want a NANNY Federal Gov't........................You do...............That is your Religion.............and it is beyond a shadow of a doubt why we are in debt up to our asses already......We all suspect you are stupid.
Why do you post and remove all doubt ?
Maybe when you don't have anything to say...
Mandatory spending is the elephant inthe room.........and it's unfunded Liabilities GUARANTEE we are SCREWED........How did that happen.........SOCIALIST LIKE FDR are SCREWING US FROM THE GRAVE..............It was Unsustainable from the beginning.
Government is nothing more than a tool.
You might want to check with Trump's trillion dollar budget and the need to subsidize big business with your tax dollars.
The Constitution GAVE THE FEDERAL GOV'T ENUMERATED POWERS.........to prevent it from Getting too much power..............Now that it has too much power we have CREATED A MONSTER.
Again, why are you not going after all those 'unfunded liabilities' like subsidized agro and dirty energy? If they can't make it shouldn't they fail?
Aren't you at all upset that the deficit has gone up under Trump? Wait until he wants to balance the budget by lowering your social security and medicare benefits that you paid into.
You are just too danged STUPID to understand it................OR YOU DON'T CARE that there is NO WAY TO PAY FOR WHAT'S COMING......
So lets play..............you broke the lamp game again.
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I don't think Norway has a shortage of any of those things. Trump's best buddy's country however is another matter.
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It's Democratic Socialism, you seem confused by the first part.
No such animal as Democratic Socialism.
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It's actually a real thing. Much of Europe is socialist and democratic. So is the United States since we are a mixed economy.
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Again you are moving the goal posts......................I SAID CERIMONY ...............Most states did that until some leftist asshats like you said they HAD TO MARRY GAYS at the Job................Again States are now getting OUT OF THE MARRAIGE business to AVOID the BS that came with it.No it isn't...........that is you forcing YOUR BELIEFS ONTO OTHERS.................and that is Why many States have just OPTED to no longer perform the cerimony.............You want gay marriage then you can go find someone to marry you who will do it.................Some DON'T AGREE and YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO FORCE THEM TO DO IT.You would force a court worker to perform a wedding for something they DON'T AGREE WITH.......Which is EXACTLY WHY some STATES REFUSE TO DO THE CERIMONY ANYMORE................To avoid FORCING OTHERS to do something against their religion.............I'm talking about you personally. I'm saying that the right has pushed for things that would fly in the face of personal liberty.
Anyway, glad to hear that you think all Americans have the right to marry someone of the same sex. It's nice to know that even some on the right endorse freedom.
We DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOUR LIFESTYLE BRO...........and WE DON'T.......Forced Acceptance doesn't work on us Lib.............we WILL NOT ACCEPT IT........and we are under No Obligation to do so.
Would I expect a 'court worker' to follow the law? Yes, yes I would. What a stupid argument.
You're upset because gay people can get a marriage certificate? Gee, nothing authoritarian about that in 2020.
If it's a civil ceremony that yeah, the state should marry them, it's kind of their job. If it's a religious ceremony then it's up to that religious institution.
If you are Gay and want to get married.......go find someone who agrees with it to marry your ass.
Yeah, like in a civil ceremony or a religious institution that does same sex weddings.
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They have stopped the ceremony in MANY STATES................the issue was someone who was having to do the ceremony for the marriage.............................Which is a violation of their Rights under the Constitution and you know it.........Again you are moving the goal posts......................I SAID CERIMONY ...............Most states did that until some leftist asshats like you said they HAD TO MARRY GAYS at the Job................Again States are now getting OUT OF THE MARRAIGE business to AVOID the BS that came with it.No it isn't...........that is you forcing YOUR BELIEFS ONTO OTHERS.................and that is Why many States have just OPTED to no longer perform the cerimony.............You want gay marriage then you can go find someone to marry you who will do it.................Some DON'T AGREE and YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO FORCE THEM TO DO IT.You would force a court worker to perform a wedding for something they DON'T AGREE WITH.......Which is EXACTLY WHY some STATES REFUSE TO DO THE CERIMONY ANYMORE................To avoid FORCING OTHERS to do something against their religion.............
We DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOUR LIFESTYLE BRO...........and WE DON'T.......Forced Acceptance doesn't work on us Lib.............we WILL NOT ACCEPT IT........and we are under No Obligation to do so.
Would I expect a 'court worker' to follow the law? Yes, yes I would. What a stupid argument.
You're upset because gay people can get a marriage certificate? Gee, nothing authoritarian about that in 2020.
If it's a civil ceremony that yeah, the state should marry them, it's kind of their job. If it's a religious ceremony then it's up to that religious institution.
If you are Gay and want to get married.......go find someone who agrees with it to marry your ass.
Yeah, like in a civil ceremony or a religious institution that does same sex weddings.
You would say...............YOU WILL PERFORM THE CEREMONY even when it's against your Beliefs............that is YOU IMPOSING YOUR RELIGION ON THEM...........
And it is a MINORITY GROUP OF PEOPLE not a MAJORITY DECISION OF WE THE PEOPLE................You can spin it all you want...................It is a SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE pushing FORCED ACCEPTANCE on the rest.......................
How do people advance under democratic socialism? I would think they would use the opportunity to get a good education and go find a job.
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They have stopped the ceremony in MANY STATES................the issue was someone who was having to do the ceremony for the marriage.............................Which is a violation of their Rights under the Constitution and you know it.........Again you are moving the goal posts......................I SAID CERIMONY ...............Most states did that until some leftist asshats like you said they HAD TO MARRY GAYS at the Job................Again States are now getting OUT OF THE MARRAIGE business to AVOID the BS that came with it.No it isn't...........that is you forcing YOUR BELIEFS ONTO OTHERS.................and that is Why many States have just OPTED to no longer perform the cerimony.............You want gay marriage then you can go find someone to marry you who will do it.................Some DON'T AGREE and YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO FORCE THEM TO DO IT.Would I expect a 'court worker' to follow the law? Yes, yes I would. What a stupid argument.
You're upset because gay people can get a marriage certificate? Gee, nothing authoritarian about that in 2020.
If it's a civil ceremony that yeah, the state should marry them, it's kind of their job. If it's a religious ceremony then it's up to that religious institution.
If you are Gay and want to get married.......go find someone who agrees with it to marry your ass.
Yeah, like in a civil ceremony or a religious institution that does same sex weddings.
Government sanctioned civil ceremonies have been stopped all together because of homophobes and you don't see that as a tad authoritarian? That is hilarious................................................................and sad.
You would say...............YOU WILL PERFORM THE CEREMONY even when it's against your Beliefs............that is YOU IMPOSING YOUR RELIGION ON THEM...........
If you don't believe that government should uphold the law then maybe you shouldn't be in government.
And it is a MINORITY GROUP OF PEOPLE not a MAJORITY DECISION OF WE THE PEOPLE................You can spin it all you want...................It is a SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE pushing FORCED ACCEPTANCE on the rest.......................
Blacks are also a minority if someone in government doesn't feel like giving out marriage certificates or holding civil ceremonies for interracial marriages should the couple be forced to go over to the next town as well? Where does it end in your authoritarian utopia? What if the couple is Jewish and the judge doesn't like Jews, then what?
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How do people advance under democratic socialism? I would think they would use the opportunity to get a good education and go find a job.
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Complaining about socialists while using someone else's work. Funny.
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How do people advance under democratic socialism? I would think they would use the opportunity to get a good education and go find a job.
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No, socialism is just where you have regulations and laws to prevent abuses by those who control lots of capital.
Like laws against child labor, monopolies, firing those who want a union, etc.
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BS..........they did it to avoid the Constitutional matter............Which quite frankly you are avoiding................The Ceremony was an ISSUE.............forcing a Worker to do something they DON'T BELIEVE IN IS BS.Government sanctioned civil ceremonies have been stopped all together because of homophobes and you don't see that as a tad authoritarian? That is hilarious................................................................and sad.
You can spin that anyway you want............IT IS BS...........And why a lot of States are getting out of the business of it...............you can get your permit and THAT IS ALL.............
To AVOID THE CONSTITUTIONAL CONFLICT.........Which you deny is there.
Crepitus
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Lol, no.No.Fascism and socialism are opposite ends of the spectrum son. Fascists are on the far right. Your team.DemocratIC socialists.
Fascist democratIC Socialists
Fascism and socialism are both collective forms of government. Thus they are fundamentally the same.
Yes. Tell the class the difference to the citizens living in fascist Germany and socialist Soviet Union.
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