Q for USMB Progressives

[NYcarbineer]

We have the number 1 economy on the planet and got here in a relatively short time by adhering to free markets.

My question: Why do you think Redistribution is a better deal?

Because a middle class/working class couple trying to raise a family ought not have to have 2 jobs in order to do so.

Thats been the case since before Reagen. Have you enjoyed your SS being redistributed to cronies?

I have no idea what the seemingly random combination of words above are supposed to mean.

 

[Full-Auto]

Because a middle class/working class couple trying to raise a family ought not have to have 2 jobs in order to do so.

Thats been the case since before Reagen. Have you enjoyed your SS being redistributed to cronies?

I have no idea what the seemingly random combination of words above are supposed to mean.

Thats because your a few slices short of a loaf.

It sucks being owned in just a few words doesnt it?

 

[Cammmpbell]

Thats been the case since before Reagen. Have you enjoyed your SS being redistributed to cronies?

I have no idea what the seemingly random combination of words above are supposed to mean.

Thats because your a few slices short of a loaf.

It sucks being owned in just a few words doesnt it?

LMAO!! I think you meant YOU'RE
Ever heard of grammar school

 

[Jarhead]

I have no idea what the seemingly random combination of words above are supposed to mean.

Thats because your a few slices short of a loaf.

It sucks being owned in just a few words doesnt it?

LMAO!! I think you meant YOU'RE
Ever heard of grammar school

one who criticizes typos, mispellings and grammar issues on a message board is one who feels a sense of weakness in their position in the debate.

You know when a debater has lost when he/she resorts to criticizing the person they are debating and not the position they are debating.

Please...continue to show us how insecure you are with your sentiments.

 

[Dr.Drock]

I have no idea what the seemingly random combination of words above are supposed to mean.

Thats because your a few slices short of a loaf.

It sucks being owned in just a few words doesnt it?

LMAO!! I think you meant YOU'RE
Ever heard of grammar school

You put on your spelling and grammar police outfit and in your own post mocking someone else you don't put a question mark at the end of a question?

 

[Cammmpbell]

Thats because your a few slices short of a loaf.

It sucks being owned in just a few words doesnt it?

LMAO!! I think you meant YOU'RE
Ever heard of grammar school

one who criticizes typos, mispellings and grammar issues on a message board is one who feels a sense of weakness in their position in the debate.

You know when a debater has lost when he/she resorts to criticizing the person they are debating and not the position they are debating.

Please...continue to show us how insecure you are with your sentiments.

LMAO!! Please explain to me how an inadvertent stroke could result in the difference in YOUR AND YOU'RE

It's called ignorance....get used to it.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

My question: Why do you think Redistribution is a better deal?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

has Frank or anyone else come back to tell us when this period of "adhering to free markets" happened?

We were never pure Capitalist Free Market, but we were more so than any other nation.

How is redistribution better for you?

Can you tell us the approximate dates you are referring to here, Frank? Which decades?

Are we still the number 1 economy in the world, Dear?

We are not the oldest nation, nor the most populated, yet somehow, in a relatively short period of time, by adopting generally Free Market principles, we became the number economy on the planet.

Do you accept that as fact or will your Statist Defense Reflex interfere again?

 

[Full-Auto]

I have no idea what the seemingly random combination of words above are supposed to mean.

Thats because your a few slices short of a loaf.

It sucks being owned in just a few words doesnt it?

LMAO!! I think you meant YOU'RE
Ever heard of grammar school

LOL When you are such a crying litttle bitch that must highlight a dropped E.

Then we know you have had your ass kicked again.

 

[Jarhead]

LMAO!! I think you meant YOU'RE
Ever heard of grammar school

one who criticizes typos, mispellings and grammar issues on a message board is one who feels a sense of weakness in their position in the debate.

You know when a debater has lost when he/she resorts to criticizing the person they are debating and not the position they are debating.

Please...continue to show us how insecure you are with your sentiments.

LMAO!! Please explain to me how an inadvertent stroke could result in the difference in YOUR AND YOU'RE

It's called ignorance....get used to it.

thanks for doing as I asked......

 

[JakeStarkey]

That is only one of its functions.

What are the other functions???

Some people act like capitalism has some sort of bias...

Capitalism is designed to create and make wealth. The bias comes from the people.

 

[8537]

We were never pure Capitalist Free Market, but we were more so than any other nation.

How is redistribution better for you?

Can you tell us the approximate dates you are referring to here, Frank? Which decades?

Are we still the number 1 economy in the world, Dear?

We are not the oldest nation, nor the most populated, yet somehow, in a relatively short period of time, by adopting generally Free Market principles, we became the number economy on the planet.

Do you accept that as fact or will your Statist Defense Reflex interfere again?

So you can't give us a date - or even a time period - when we were "adhering to free markets" that led to us being the "#1 economy in the world"?

 

[Jarhead]

That is only one of its functions.

What are the other functions???

Some people act like capitalism has some sort of bias...

Capitalism is designed to create and make wealth. The bias comes from the people.

true...

and the hypocrisy is interesting as well.

For example.....it is OK for someone with a liberal bias to "shop around" and find the best price for an item in an effort to minimize cost and maximize spending power......but if a business owner does the same?
It is inexcusable greediness

 

[Jarhead]

Can you tell us the approximate dates you are referring to here, Frank? Which decades?

Are we still the number 1 economy in the world, Dear?

We are not the oldest nation, nor the most populated, yet somehow, in a relatively short period of time, by adopting generally Free Market principles, we became the number economy on the planet.

Do you accept that as fact or will your Statist Defense Reflex interfere again?

So you can't give us a date - or even a time period - when we were "adhering to free markets" that led to us being the "#1 economy in the world"?

do you deny that free markets exist? Or existed?

 

[Dragon]

We have the number 1 economy on the planet and got here in a relatively short time by adhering to free markets.

No, we don't:

List of countries by GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The World Bank and CIA Handbook put us at no. 9, not no. 1, measured in terms of per capita GDP/PPP. On other measures reflecting quality of life, we drop quite a bit further down the list.

There was a time when we WERE no. 1, but in those days we practiced liberal economics and had a mixed socialist-capitalist economy rather than "adhering to free markets." A turn back towards right-wing economics beginning in the 1980s is the most likely reason why we are no longer no. 1.

My question: Why do you think Redistribution is a better deal?

Because, as noted above, your premises are false.

 

[8537]

Are we still the number 1 economy in the world, Dear?

We are not the oldest nation, nor the most populated, yet somehow, in a relatively short period of time, by adopting generally Free Market principles, we became the number economy on the planet.

Do you accept that as fact or will your Statist Defense Reflex interfere again?

So you can't give us a date - or even a time period - when we were "adhering to free markets" that led to us being the "#1 economy in the world"?

do you deny that free markets exist? Or existed?

No, I'm quite certain that a large portion of the transactions in our economy occur in a free market.

I'm wondering what time period Frank is referring to when he says we "got here by adhering to free markets".

 

[Jarhead]

So you can't give us a date - or even a time period - when we were "adhering to free markets" that led to us being the "#1 economy in the world"?

do you deny that free markets exist? Or existed?

No, I'm quite certain that a large portion of the transactions in our economy occur in a free market.

I'm wondering what time period Frank is referring to when he says we "got here by adhering to free markets".

I cant answer for Frank.

But I poersonally believe it has been an on going scenario for 2 centuries.

And with continued regulations and what I perceive to be an INCREASE in regulations.....I question whether or not some of our issues are governmental interference with the free market.

The auto bailouts for example....necessary? Many say yes.

But for Ford? It was actually a punishment for having a sound business model. They chugged along...doing what they can to stay in the black.....and when their competition blew it? They were rewarded with a bailoujt.....and Ford's advantage that was earned with patience? Completely elimninated.

 

[JakeStarkey]

What are the other functions???

Some people act like capitalism has some sort of bias...

Capitalism is designed to create and make wealth. The bias comes from the people.

true...

and the hypocrisy is interesting as well.

For example.....it is OK for someone with a liberal bias to "shop around" and find the best price for an item in an effort to minimize cost and maximize spending power......but if a business owner does the same? It is inexcusable greediness

Define "shop around" for a business owner.

 

[Jarhead]

Capitalism is designed to create and make wealth. The bias comes from the people.

true...

and the hypocrisy is interesting as well.

For example.....it is OK for someone with a liberal bias to "shop around" and find the best price for an item in an effort to minimize cost and maximize spending power......but if a business owner does the same? It is inexcusable greediness

Define "shop around" for a business owner.

A business owner is paying a combined salary for three receptionists of 100K a year. Add on the cost of payroll.....115K a year.

A salesman presents to him a voice mail system that costs 30K...with expected 100% depreciation over a 5 year period....so costing him 6K a year

This voicemail system will eliminate the need for 2 of his 3 receptionists.....saving him around 70K a year.

He has a net savings of 64K a year.

Is he wrong to purchase the voicemail system at the cost of 2 jobs?

 

[8537]

do you deny that free markets exist? Or existed?

No, I'm quite certain that a large portion of the transactions in our economy occur in a free market.

I'm wondering what time period Frank is referring to when he says we "got here by adhering to free markets".

I cant answer for Frank.

But I poersonally believe it has been an on going scenario for 2 centuries.[

And with continued regulations and what I perceive to be an INCREASE in regulations.....I question whether or not some of our issues are governmental interference with the free market.

The auto bailouts for example....necessary? Many say yes.

But for Ford? It was actually a punishment for having a sound business model. They chugged along...doing what they can to stay in the black.....and when their competition blew it? They were rewarded with a bailoujt.....and Ford's advantage that was earned with patience? Completely elimninated.

I'm not sure we can look at the current situation and conclude that current markets are any less free than they were at any time in our history, the Ford example notwithstanding. We have higher levels of international trade, more businesses per capita, more stringent enforcement of intellectual property rights and the highest levels of market transactions in our history.

Our economy has always been a free market economy with government involvement to protect rights and promote economic efficiency. At times that involvement has been far greater than it is today - yet our economy flourished during those times.