Putting a Face on the Healthcare Debate

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    I don't agree with the current Senate version because it simply enriches the Insurance Gangsters, but we need something to help those who for no blame of their own have lost or could never afford health care.

    We are the most powerful nation in the world with a health care that is 37 in the world. We are owned by the Insurance Gangsters and their little thugs like McConnell and Boehner. I really do hope there is an afterlife where these folks have to stand in front of their creator tell how good they were and how they as true Christians loved and helped the least of their brethren.

    400% raise in premiums since 2000. Please justify that, while 45,000 of your fellow Americans die every year because they can't access health care. Even if a person doesn't give a shit about others, they should be upset at the cost we the taxpayers are paying to cover these uninsured at ERs and other medical costs.

    If the Current RNC was in charge at the revolution, we would still be British subjects.



    Uninsured, a family on the edge -- chicagotribune.com
     
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    And yet they still manage to create one red herring after another

    - death panels
    - socialized medicine
    - free healthcare for illegals
    - abortion coverage
    - killing grandma

    Anything it takes to prevent Americans from affordable healthcare
     
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    What's a red herring? Those are all facts if the dems bring 30,000,000 more people into the US healthcare system, while reducing the number of doctors and hospitals.

    Making doctors and hospitals do more with less is a sure way to have the system collapse. Otherwise the only alternative is to delay treatment like in other socialized medicine states, which costs lives.
    Don't you believe doctors when they say they will leave medicine because they can't afford to stay???
     
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    There's nothing more disgusting than a grown man, especially someone who poses to be a Marine whining like a little school girl

    You former unit members should look you up and slap you to your senses.

    One more thing, as a nation we're a little over 230 years old, France, China, India, England, Egypt have all been around for a multiple of the time we've been here, yet we're the Number One economy on the planet, so clearly we're doing something right.

    Grow a sac.
     
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    Yup
     
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    Its a fact as Republicans prefer to let those 30 million people die rather than allow them to get affordable heathcare.

    What ever happened to supply and demand? As the demand increases the market will adjust to meet the demand. Why would doctors leave medicine? Do doctors in Canada nad England leave because they have socialized medicine? If socialized medicine costs lives, why do they have a higher life expectancy than the US?
     
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    DO you ever tire of lying? Or is it just second nature to you?
    Republicans have floated a plan that would insure those same people at a fraction of the cost of the Democratic plan. Of course it got no hearing at all in the post partisan Obama years.
    Supply and demand is still very operative. It posits that if there are artificial controls on price then equilibrium will become skewed. Set the price too low, which is what the Senate just voted to do, and you will have many fewer providers. Care will become rationed. Which is exactly what happens in England. Too few providers, long waiting lists, people consigned to die because there is too much demand and not enough supply.
    This is the Democratic plan: We want you to die because there isn't enough medicine to go around.
    The Democrats, the party of Fuck You.
     
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    More wingnut myths about British healthcare. Why is it rated so much higher than ours? Why is the life expectancy higher in England? Why is it that nobody in England goes bankrupt or loses their home because they got sick?
    If the healthcare providers are being driven out, why is it we don't see an influx of doctors from England, France and Canada? Our hospitals are filled with doctors from third world countries. Doctors from countries with national healthcare stay there
     
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    British healthcare delivers substandard care in every category of illness. Survival of major illnesses is far lower than in the U.S. All of this is fact. You dont see doctors coming here because there are many fewer doctors to begin with. People just dont spend years of their lives to make middling salaries.
    Everything I have written is factual and slams the Democratic bill in its face. People who fail to learn the lessons of other countries will fail to see the disaster that is coming.
     
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    And yet British healthcare (18th) is consistently considered to be overall superior to the US which ranks a pathetic 37th right above Slovinia
     

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