Putin invites Kim Jong Un to Moscow

[Kondor3]

I do not follow infowars but I did happen to see them posting this news report today that Putin has invited Kim Jong Un to Moscow next year. Patton was right. We should have dealt with the Russian Communists when we had the opportunity. It looks like this is a blossoming friendship between Putin and Kim Jong Un. The timing of this news story is what is interesting to me. The article was actually reported by REUTERS. As you can see in the clip.


Vladimir Putin invites Kim Jong-un to Moscow Alex Jones Infowars There s a war on for your mind

by REUTERS | DECEMBER 19, 2014


The Russian president, Vladimir Putin, has invited the North Korean leader, Kim Jong-un, to Moscow next year to mark the 70th anniversary of the Soviet defeat of Nazi Germany in the second world war, the Kremlin’s spokesman said on Friday.
It would be Kim’s first foreign visit since taking the helm of the reclusive east Asian state in 2011. His personal envoy travelled to Moscow last month as part of efforts by the two Cold War-era allies to improve relations.

“Yes, such an invitation was sent,” a Kremlin spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, told the state news agency, Tass. Russia marks the former Soviet Union’s 1945 victory every year on 9 May.

Moscow needs North Korean cooperation to boost its natural gas exports to South Korea as Gazprom would like to build a gas pipeline through North Korea to reach its southern neighbour.

Why should we care?? ......

If you have to ask the question, you won't understand the answer.

 

[hipeter924]

Some interesting facts about Moscow you might find interesting. There are more billionaires living in Moscow than anywhere else in the world. This was a report from a foreign news correspondent today - he says that State run television in Russia send continual news reports that blame America for very problem in the world. The other report was that while Putin held a 3 hour news conference stating he was confident his country would rebound he didn't have any solutions to offer on how that would happen. The news correspondent was quick to point out that Russia still holds at least 1/2 trillion dollars in their bank account. While the correspondent pointed out Putin enjoyed 80% support from Russians he said it is also possible the support their country and not Putin. The people of Russia are upset that 60 billion dollars has been spent on Sochi while they are suffering and there are now reports of some Russian people who are beginning to starve. The correspondent noted that anyone who loves Democracy has already left Russia. That is the terrible reality about Communism. There is no compassion for human lives. NONE.

Again, why should we care?? ....

Russia isn't communist anymore either. Figured Russia has never had a democracy to speak of, unless people could take the sham democracy of Yeltsin at all seriously.

 

[hipeter924]

A new cold war ends with strange bed fellows.....................

Sanctions from us and the EURO are seriously ruffling feathers.

 

[phobs]

Вы мало знаете о России. В России кончился коммунизм. Вам средства массовой информации говорят что в России плохо. Но это далеко не так. Россия и США совершенно разные страны. Парой смешно читать вас. все знаете, но при этом ни где не были. СМИ работает одинаково хорошо в каждой стране.

 

[phobs]

google translate в помощь)

 

[eagle1462010]

google translate в помощь)

Russia arming the opposition in the Ukraine and seizing Crimea is to help? I only translated the to help part as you posted.

Since you are from Russia. What is the opinion of the Russian people over the Ukraine and Crimea issues?

We consider the North Korean Gov't to tyrannical. It oppresses it's people, and anyone who disagrees with it's gov't disappears there. Why would a Gov't want strong relations with that type of Government?

To the Crimea situation...............I'm neither for or against it as it appeared to me that most their seemed to want to rejoin Russia anyway.

In the Ukraine that is not the case even thou areas there want a return. The country as a whole doesn't though. Yet, Putin has helped arm them. Under the guise TO HELP he had Russian military convoys bring supplies including weapons into the Ukraine. They have also used aircraft and artillery into the Ukraine even though the involvement is limited.

The Pentagon and CENTCOM have reported these violations as has the EU.

It would be nice to here the Russian opinion on these issues here.

 

[eagle1462010]

Defense.gov Transcript Department of Defense Press Briefing by Admiral Kirby in the Pentagon Briefing Room

Department of Defense Press Briefing by Admiral Kirby in the Pentagon Briefing Room
Presenters: Rear Admiral John Kirby, Press Secretary
August 22, 2014
REAR ADMIRAL JOHN KIRBY: Everybody, sorry I'm late. I know I'm terribly late today. I do want to just say something right at the outset and then we'll get to your questions. We are very concerned by the movement of a Russian convoy across Ukraine's border. We strongly condemn this action and any actions that Russian forces take that increase tensions in the region. Russia should not send vehicles, persons, or cargo of any kind into Ukraine, whether under the guise of humanitarian convoys or any other pretext, without Kiev's express permission. This is a violation of Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity by Russia.

Russia must remove its vehicles and its personnel from the territory of Ukraine immediately. Failure to do so will result in additional costs and isolation. We're currently consulting with the International Red Cross and other international partners. And as we have more details to provide on what we know, we'll certainly do that.


Example

 

[eagle1462010]

http://www.defense.gov/pubs/North_Korea_Military_Power_Report_2013-2014.pdf

North Korea fields a large, forward-deployed military that retains the capability to inflict
serious damage on the ROK, despite significant resource shortfalls and aging hardware.
The DPRK continues to be deterred from conducting large-scale attacks on the ROK
primarily due to the strength of the U.S.-ROK Alliance. On a smaller scale, however, the
DPRK has demonstrated its willingness to use military provocation to achieve national
goals. In 2010, it sank the ROK naval vessel CHEONAN, killing 46 ROK Navy sailors, and
shelled Yeonpyeong Island, killing two ROK Marines and two civilians.
North Korea’s continued pursuit of nuclear technology and capabilities and
development of intermediate- and long-range ballistic missile programs, as reflected in
the December 2012 Taepo Dong-2 missile launch and February 2013 nuclear test,
underscore the threat to regional stability and U.S. national security posed by North
Korea. These programs, and North Korea’s expressed hostility toward the ROK and
proliferation of items prohibited under United Nations Security Council Resolutions 1718,
1874, 2087,and 2094, make the DPRK a continued security challenge for the United
States and its Allies and partners.
North Korea’s third nuclear test in February 2013 and subsequent announcement of
plans to restart and refurbish nuclear facilities at Yongbyon highlight the continued
challenge posed by its nuclear programs. The September 19, 2005 Joint Statement of
the Six-Party Talks, and United Nations Security Council Resolutions 1718, 1874, 2087, and
2094 call for the complete and verifiable denuclearization of North Korea. Given North
Korea’s unwillingness to abide by these commitments, the U.S. Department of Defense

 

[eagle1462010]

Just to clear up the last post. North Korea has sunk a ROK Naval vessel. It has fired on a disputed Island and killed South Korean people. It has ignored UN resolutions on Nuclear Test bans. It has fired missiles towards Japan in the past hitting the waters in order to directly anger Japan.

Adding in the human abuses to it's own people, why would Russia want relations with N. Korea?

 

[phobs]

google translate в помощь)

Russia arming the opposition in the Ukraine and seizing Crimea is to help? I only translated the to help part as you posted.

Since you are from Russia. What is the opinion of the Russian people over the Ukraine and Crimea issues?

We consider the North Korean Gov't to tyrannical. It oppresses it's people, and anyone who disagrees with it's gov't disappears there. Why would a Gov't want strong relations with that type of Government?

To the Crimea situation...............I'm neither for or against it as it appeared to me that most their seemed to want to rejoin Russia anyway.

In the Ukraine that is not the case even thou areas there want a return. The country as a whole doesn't though. Yet, Putin has helped arm them. Under the guise TO HELP he had Russian military convoys bring supplies including weapons into the Ukraine. They have also used aircraft and artillery into the Ukraine even though the involvement is limited.

The Pentagon and CENTCOM have reported these violations as has the EU.

It would be nice to here the Russian opinion on these issues here.

СМИ обманывают.
Крым. Вам не кажется, почему нет не довольных в Крыму? нет митингов. Ни кто не хочет обратно в Украину. Тоже самое с Востоком Украины. Но там сложнее конечно. Крым не хочет вернутся в Украину.

В Украине официально нет русской армии. Те кто там воюет, это граждане и Украины и России.
Гуманитарный конвой это гуманитарный канвой, и там не оружие и не военная техника. В грузовиках гуманитарная помощь. Если бы Россия хотела бы что то ввезти в Украину, она бы это сделала любым другим путем, граница полностью открыта и передвигаться по территории восточной Украины ни кто не ограничит.

Мнение русского народа, в этом большая заслуга СМИ конечно. Как и в любой другой стране, в том числе и в США, СМИ определяет настроения в обществе.
Много русского народа поддерживают действия Путина по помощи Русским на Украине. И многие добровольно едут помогать на Донбасс.

Северная Корея. Это страшная страна, Россия не поддерживает её. Но это не повод изолироваться от Корее. У России всегда были нормальные отношения с Северной Кореей.

 

[eagle1462010]

google translate в помощь)

Russia arming the opposition in the Ukraine and seizing Crimea is to help? I only translated the to help part as you posted.

Since you are from Russia. What is the opinion of the Russian people over the Ukraine and Crimea issues?

We consider the North Korean Gov't to tyrannical. It oppresses it's people, and anyone who disagrees with it's gov't disappears there. Why would a Gov't want strong relations with that type of Government?

To the Crimea situation...............I'm neither for or against it as it appeared to me that most their seemed to want to rejoin Russia anyway.

In the Ukraine that is not the case even thou areas there want a return. The country as a whole doesn't though. Yet, Putin has helped arm them. Under the guise TO HELP he had Russian military convoys bring supplies including weapons into the Ukraine. They have also used aircraft and artillery into the Ukraine even though the involvement is limited.

The Pentagon and CENTCOM have reported these violations as has the EU.

It would be nice to here the Russian opinion on these issues here.

СМИ обманывают.
Крым. Вам не кажется, почему нет не довольных в Крыму? нет митингов. Ни кто не хочет обратно в Украину. Тоже самое с Востоком Украины. Но там сложнее конечно. Крым не хочет вернутся в Украину.

В Украине официально нет русской армии. Те кто там воюет, это граждане и Украины и России.
Гуманитарный конвой это гуманитарный канвой, и там не оружие и не военная техника. В грузовиках гуманитарная помощь. Если бы Россия хотела бы что то ввезти в Украину, она бы это сделала любым другим путем, граница полностью открыта и передвигаться по территории восточной Украины ни кто не ограничит.

Мнение русского народа, в этом большая заслуга СМИ конечно. Как и в любой другой стране, в том числе и в США, СМИ определяет настроения в обществе.
Много русского народа поддерживают действия Путина по помощи Русским на Украине. И многие добровольно едут помогать на Донбасс.

Северная Корея. Это страшная страна, Россия не поддерживает её. Но это не повод изолироваться от Корее. У России всегда были нормальные отношения с Северной Кореей.

Translation or iggy. Which do you choose?

 

[phobs]

[QUOTE = "eagle1462010, должность: 10382850, член: 43857"] Просто чтобы прояснить последний пост. Северная Корея потопила судно Республики Корея Военно-морской. Он открыл огонь по спорной острова и убил народ Южной Кореи. Он проигнорировал резолюции ООН по запреты ядерного испытания. Он обстрелял ракетами к Японии в прошлом удара воды для того, чтобы непосредственно гнев в Японии.

Добавление в человеческих злоупотреблений, для его собственного народа, то почему бы России хотят отношений с Северной Кореи? [/ QUOTE]

Не знаю. исторически так сложилось что мы всегда были в нормальных отношениях с Кореей, со времен коммунизма. Наверное в первую очередь экономическое сотрудничество.

 

[phobs]

Translation or iggy. Which do you choose?

не понял)

 

[eagle1462010]

Translation or iggy. Which do you choose?

не понял)

игнорировать

 

[guno]

I do not follow infowars but I did happen to see them posting this news report today that Putin has invited Kim Jong Un to Moscow next year. Patton was right. We should have dealt with the Russian Communists when we had the opportunity. It looks like this is a blossoming friendship between Putin and Kim Jong Un. The timing of this news story is what is interesting to me. The article was actually reported by REUTERS. As you can see in the clip.


Vladimir Putin invites Kim Jong-un to Moscow Alex Jones Infowars There s a war on for your mind

by REUTERS | DECEMBER 19, 2014


The Russian president, Vladimir Putin, has invited the North Korean leader, Kim Jong-un, to Moscow next year to mark the 70th anniversary of the Soviet defeat of Nazi Germany in the second world war, the Kremlin’s spokesman said on Friday.
It would be Kim’s first foreign visit since taking the helm of the reclusive east Asian state in 2011. His personal envoy travelled to Moscow last month as part of efforts by the two Cold War-era allies to improve relations.

“Yes, such an invitation was sent,” a Kremlin spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, told the state news agency, Tass. Russia marks the former Soviet Union’s 1945 victory every year on 9 May.

Moscow needs North Korean cooperation to boost its natural gas exports to South Korea as Gazprom would like to build a gas pipeline through North Korea to reach its southern neighbour.

Eisenhower Institute at Gettysburg College - WWII Soviet Experience

 

[hipeter924]

Вы мало знаете о России. В России кончился коммунизм. Вам средства массовой информации говорят что в России плохо. Но это далеко не так. Россия и США совершенно разные страны. Парой смешно читать вас. все знаете, но при этом ни где не были. СМИ работает одинаково хорошо в каждой стране.

Russia is bad, but not necessarily for the reasons the media portray.

Russia would have to change to be accepted by western nations, which means adopting economic and cultural globalization.

Obviously Russia would have to give up sovereignty over its economy and begin adopting human rights norms of the west. Something which most Russians seem to be opposed to. So the conflict (both militarily and social) between Russia and America/European Union will continue, as neither side will give way.

Economic globalization is pretty straightforward, and means adopting western laws and regulations governing the economic system.

But cultural globalization means adopting what western nations deem socially acceptable:
- Anti-discrimination laws (usually taking the form of a Civil Rights Act).
- Gender Equality i.e. women have the same legal status as men before the law.*
- Treating LGBT people as equal before the law i.e. no assaults, no occupy pedophilia and so on.*
- Political and Religious freedom i.e. If Pussy Riot wants to interrupt church services or vandalize crosses, they get fined for property damage - rather than get locked up for offending religious and political sensitivities.
- Free Press i.e. a newspaper or TV station should be able to say whatever they like, so long as they don't promote violence and racial hatred.

Russia is an awful place to live as far as respect for western human rights norms, but then so are the places on this list: Countries

Brazil 53.74% 44th
Russian Federation 53.58% 45th
Poland 53.57% 46th
Bulgaria 53.4% 47th
Samoa 53.39% 48th
China 53.23% 49th
British lndian Ocean Territory 53.05% 50th
Guyana 52.87% 51st
Bhutan 52.76% 52nd
Slovakia 52.65% 53rd
Argentina 52.42% 54th
Seychelles 52.37% 55th
Jamaica 52.37% 56th
Albania 52.21% 57th
Bosnia and Herzegovina 52.21% 58th
Malaysia 52.06% 59th
Namibia 52.02% 60th
Trinidad and Tobago 51.93% 61st
Mongolia 51.35% 62nd
Solomon Islands 51.14% 63rd
Mexico 51.14% 64th

*Obviously there is hypocrisy on this note. As Saudi Arabia, Malaysia, and other technical 'allies' of western nations have declared homosexuality illegal and treat women as second class citizens.

 

[phobs]

Вы мало знаете о России. В России кончился коммунизм. Вам средства массовой информации говорят что в России плохо. Но это далеко не так. Россия и США совершенно разные страны. Парой смешно читать вас. все знаете, но при этом ни где не были. СМИ работает одинаково хорошо в каждой стране.

Russia is bad, but not necessarily for the reasons the media portray.

Russia would have to change to be accepted by western nations, which means adopting economic and cultural globalization.

Obviously Russia would have to give up sovereignty over its economy and begin adopting human rights norms of the west. Something which most Russians seem to be opposed to. So the conflict (both militarily and social) between Russia and America/European Union will continue, as neither side will give way.

Economic globalization is pretty straightforward, and means adopting western laws and regulations governing the economic system.

But cultural globalization means adopting what western nations deem socially acceptable:
- Anti-discrimination laws (usually taking the form of a Civil Rights Act).
- Gender Equality i.e. women have the same legal status as men before the law.*
- Treating LGBT people as equal before the law i.e. no assaults, no occupy pedophilia and so on.*
- Political and Religious freedom i.e. If Pussy Riot wants to interrupt church services or vandalize crosses, they get fined for property damage - rather than get locked up for offending religious and political sensitivities.
- Free Press i.e. a newspaper or TV station should be able to say whatever they like, so long as they don't promote violence and racial hatred.

Russia is an awful place to live as far as respect for western human rights norms, but then so are the places on this list: Countries

Brazil 53.74% 44th
Russian Federation 53.58% 45th
Poland 53.57% 46th
Bulgaria 53.4% 47th
Samoa 53.39% 48th
China 53.23% 49th
British lndian Ocean Territory 53.05% 50th
Guyana 52.87% 51st
Bhutan 52.76% 52nd
Slovakia 52.65% 53rd
Argentina 52.42% 54th
Seychelles 52.37% 55th
Jamaica 52.37% 56th
Albania 52.21% 57th
Bosnia and Herzegovina 52.21% 58th
Malaysia 52.06% 59th
Namibia 52.02% 60th
Trinidad and Tobago 51.93% 61st
Mongolia 51.35% 62nd
Solomon Islands 51.14% 63rd
Mexico 51.14% 64th

*Obviously there is hypocrisy on this note. As Saudi Arabia, Malaysia, and other technical 'allies' of western nations have declared homosexuality illegal and treat women as second class citizens.

Да, что бы быть принятыми на Западе и во всем мире, России надо принять соответствующие глобальные нормы.
Экономика. Россия сырьевая страна. Поэтому принимая Западные нормы, России будет очень сложно в экономическом плане выжить. Это касается всех сфер экономической деятельности.

Социальные проблемы, права человека, свобода.
Тут не всё так плохо, как вам говорят по вашим СМИ. В России человек свободен. Ни кто ни что не запрещает. Радикальные настроения и люди всегда и везде подавлялись правительством, что бы сохранить нормальные условия жизни. Женщины в России ни как не ограничиваются в правах. Мужчина и женщина полностью равны. Мы не исламская страна. Тут даже обсуждать не чего.
Про педофилию. Всё запрещено, вплоть до пожизненного заключения в тюрьме. У нас нет смертной казни.
Религиозная свобода. Вообще проблем нет. Уживаются и христиане, католики, ислам, буддисты. проблем вообще нет. Я тут живу, и знаю о чем говорю. Расового преследования нет. Есть единичные случаи, но это не проблема.
Политическая свобода, и пресса. Согласен, есть проблемы с оппозицией. Это остатки коммунизма. Думаю не всё сразу. Пройдёт время и будет тут всё нормально.

Я вам скажу, то что вам рассказывают про Россию ужасные данные. обман. Нам в России тоже самое рассказывают про Запад и США. Сейчас есть Интернет, поэтому сложнее СМИ врать. Но кто из вас заходит на Российские форумы. Ни кто. Тоже самое и в России.
Проблем у нас по большому счёту очень мало, первая это экономическая. В остальном серьёзных проблем нет.

Медицинская страховка в год стоит всего 50 долларов. Это покрывает 100% затрат на всё лечение, в том числе лечение у зубного врача. Проблем вообще нет. Есть исключение высоко технологичных методах лечения. Но это единичные случаем можно сказать. Безработным страховка делается бесплатно.
Образование - Полностью бесплатное.
Россия это другая страна.

 

[hipeter924]

Да, что бы быть принятыми на Западе и во всем мире, России надо принять соответствующие глобальные нормы.
Экономика. Россия сырьевая страна. Поэтому принимая Западные нормы, России будет очень сложно в экономическом плане выжить. Это касается всех сфер экономической деятельности.

Социальные проблемы, права человека, свобода.
Тут не всё так плохо, как вам говорят по вашим СМИ. В России человек свободен. Ни кто ни что не запрещает. Радикальные настроения и люди всегда и везде подавлялись правительством, что бы сохранить нормальные условия жизни. Женщины в России ни как не ограничиваются в правах. Мужчина и женщина полностью равны. Мы не исламская страна. Тут даже обсуждать не чего.
Про педофилию. Всё запрещено, вплоть до пожизненного заключения в тюрьме. У нас нет смертной казни.
Религиозная свобода. Вообще проблем нет. Уживаются и христиане, католики, ислам, буддисты. проблем вообще нет. Я тут живу, и знаю о чем говорю. Расового преследования нет. Есть единичные случаи, но это не проблема.
Политическая свобода, и пресса. Согласен, есть проблемы с оппозицией. Это остатки коммунизма. Думаю не всё сразу. Пройдёт время и будет тут всё нормально.

Я вам скажу, то что вам рассказывают про Россию ужасные данные. обман. Нам в России тоже самое рассказывают про Запад и США. Сейчас есть Интернет, поэтому сложнее СМИ врать. Но кто из вас заходит на Российские форумы. Ни кто. Тоже самое и в России.
Проблем у нас по большому счёту очень мало, первая это экономическая. В остальном серьёзных проблем нет.

Медицинская страховка в год стоит всего 50 долларов. Это покрывает 100% затрат на всё лечение, в том числе лечение у зубного врача. Проблем вообще нет. Есть исключение высоко технологичных методах лечения. Но это единичные случаем можно сказать. Безработным страховка делается бесплатно.
Образование - Полностью бесплатное.
Россия это другая страна.

I would say that problems do exist as far as race and religion, though to be fair it isn't government policy, but the conduct of extreme nationalists and neo nazi groups. I have heard of problems on the China-Russia border, with Chinese suffering some hostility from Russians when they try to trade or work over on the Russian side. Also Muslims in Chechnya, and Tatars in Crimea accuse the Russian government of persecuting them; Chechnya Muslims might engage in terrorism, but not the Crimean Tatars - though since the beginning of the conflict with Ukraine some Crimean Tatar leaders have warned terrorism could take place.

 

[idb]

Something about Moscow you might find interesting. There are more billionaires living in Moscow than anywhere else in the world. This was a report from a foreign news correspondent today - he says that State run television in Russia send continual news reports that blame America for very problem in the world. The other report was that while Putin held a 3 hour news conference stating he was confident his country would rebound he didn't have any solutions to offer on how that would happen. The news correspondent was quick to point out that Russia still holds at least 1/2 trillion dollars in their bank account. While the correspondent pointed out Putin enjoyed 80% support from Russians he said it is also possible they support their country and not Putin. The people of Russia are upset that 60 billion dollars has been spent on Sochi while they are suffering and there are now reports of some Russian people who are beginning to starve. The correspondent noted that anyone who loves Democracy has already left Russia. That is the terrible reality about Communism. There is no compassion for human lives. NONE.

Is Russia Communist?

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Something about Moscow you might find interesting. There are more billionaires living in Moscow than anywhere else in the world. This was a report from a foreign news correspondent today - he says that State run television in Russia send continual news reports that blame America for very problem in the world. The other report was that while Putin held a 3 hour news conference stating he was confident his country would rebound he didn't have any solutions to offer on how that would happen. The news correspondent was quick to point out that Russia still holds at least 1/2 trillion dollars in their bank account. While the correspondent pointed out Putin enjoyed 80% support from Russians he said it is also possible they support their country and not Putin. The people of Russia are upset that 60 billion dollars has been spent on Sochi while they are suffering and there are now reports of some Russian people who are beginning to starve. The correspondent noted that anyone who loves Democracy has already left Russia. That is the terrible reality about Communism. There is no compassion for human lives. NONE.

Is Russia Communist?

Putin is a Communist. The people who are in power in Russia and are working for Putin are Communists. So Russia is under the control of Communists at this writing.