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By what AUTHORITY does Congress have to create NON Government jobs?

By what AUTHORITY does Congress have to set CEO's and other executives pay at PRIVATE Corporations?

By what AUTHORITY does Congress have to limit private Companies from importing oil into this Country?

Just curious?
 
Section 8 - Powers of Congress

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
It's in the Constitution.
But if you notice, the word used is regulate not administer. That's the beef most people have, not that government should propose and make regulations on business, but that Government is actually running businesses.

People believe in the "Separation of Church and State", there should be a "Separation of Public and Private" as well.
 
Section 8 - Powers of Congress

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

It's in the Constitution.

"Regulate commerce". Remember when the former junkie community activist called the US Chamber of Commerce something like a "sinister tool of the capitalist dogs" just before the November elections? Thank God for the republican majority or the neo-socialist crooks would have regulated commerce down the road to 3rd world status..
 
Section 8 - Powers of Congress

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

It's in the Constitution.

"Regulate commerce". Remember when the former junkie community activist called the US Chamber of Commerce something like a "sinister tool of the capitalist dogs" just before the November elections? Thank God for the republican majority or the neo-socialist crooks would have regulated commerce down the road to 3rd world status..

Notice he can not actually LIST the clause from the Constitution that gives the Government these supposed powers? Or how Jillian, whom claimed the Government had these powers hasn't even posted here?
 
The U.S. Constitution does not give authority to the gov't. to run private business, the dimwits like to think so because they are socialists who believe in gov't. control.
 
By what AUTHORITY does Congress have to create NON Government jobs?

By what AUTHORITY does Congress have to set CEO's and other executives pay at PRIVATE Corporations?

By what AUTHORITY does Congress have to limit private Companies from importing oil into this Country?

Just curious?

Why was Boehner running around saying "where are the jobs?" all the time? You can't have your cake and eat it too.
 
The Commerce clause does not grant power to Congress to order private companies on pay. never has never will.
Why not? They certainly seem to feel free about telling them who they may hire. I never see you getting your panties in a twist about anyone being forced to not hire the non-documented.
 
Section 8 - Powers of Congress

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

It's in the Constitution.

Well no. Dictating corporate pay is not the same as regulating interstate commerce. If you say it is then I ask if there is ANY area that the fed gov cannot regulate.
 
Article One of the United States Constitution, section 8, clause 18:


“ The Congress shall have Power - To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.


Article I, Section 8, Clause 3:

“ [The Congress shall have Power] To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian tribes;



STAFFORD V. WALLACE, 258 U. S. 495 (1922)
2. It is for Congress to decide from its general information and from the special evidence brought before it the nature of evils, present or threatening, and to enact such legislation within its power as it deems necessary to remedy them, and this environment should be considered by the courts in interpreting the scope and effect of the act in order to determine its validity. P. 258 U. S. 513.

3. Commerce among the states is not a technical legal conception but a practical one, drawn from the course of business. P. 258 U. S. 518. Swift & Co. v. United States, 196 U. S. 375.

4. Streams of commerce among the states are under the national protection and regulation, including subordinate activities and facilities which are essential to such movements, though not of interstate character when viewed apart from them. P. 258 U. S. 519.
STAFFORD V. WALLACE, 258 U. S. 495 :: Volume 258 :: 1922 :: Full Text :: US Supreme Court Cases from Justia & Oyez



A lot depends on if that company is engaged in commerce between the states. If that company is let's say a a local bakery that only operates within the confines of the state it resides then NO the Federal Govt. has no authority under the commerce clause. However, if that company is engaged. in commerce. like a GM, Exxon, Wal-Mart for example the Congress. has authority under the commerce clause to make all laws that are necessary and proper to regulate them.
 
having the mindest that there's a direct constitutional law applicable in a sea of associated beauracracy is beyond futility, have any of you tried to read the federal register? it could fill a warehouse....
 
Article One of the United States Constitution, section 8, clause 18:


“ The Congress shall have Power - To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.


Article I, Section 8, Clause 3:

“ [The Congress shall have Power] To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian tribes;



STAFFORD V. WALLACE, 258 U. S. 495 (1922)
2. It is for Congress to decide from its general information and from the special evidence brought before it the nature of evils, present or threatening, and to enact such legislation within its power as it deems necessary to remedy them, and this environment should be considered by the courts in interpreting the scope and effect of the act in order to determine its validity. P. 258 U. S. 513.

3. Commerce among the states is not a technical legal conception but a practical one, drawn from the course of business. P. 258 U. S. 518. Swift & Co. v. United States, 196 U. S. 375.

4. Streams of commerce among the states are under the national protection and regulation, including subordinate activities and facilities which are essential to such movements, though not of interstate character when viewed apart from them. P. 258 U. S. 519.
STAFFORD V. WALLACE, 258 U. S. 495 :: Volume 258 :: 1922 :: Full Text :: US Supreme Court Cases from Justia & Oyez



A lot depends on if that company is engaged in commerce between the states. If that company is let's say a a local bakery that only operates within the confines of the state it resides then NO the Federal Govt. has no authority under the commerce clause. However, if that company is engaged. in commerce. like a GM, Exxon, Wal-Mart for example the Congress. has authority under the commerce clause to make all laws that are necessary and proper to regulate them.

None of what you posted grants to Congress the power to dictate to a Private company how to run their business, only to regulate what is legally allowed. It does not grant to Congress the authority to set private business pay arrangements between workers and the Company nor of executive hired by said Company. Since the Underlying power does not exist then no laws can be enacted granting such power.

Regulate is NOT run not even in its broadest interpretation.

And it sure as hell does not grant to the Government the right to deny a private company from relocating from Seattle to SC.
 
The Commerce clause does not grant power to Congress to order private companies on pay. never has never will.
Why not? They certainly seem to feel free about telling them who they may hire. I never see you getting your panties in a twist about anyone being forced to not hire the non-documented.

You need a lesson in the US Constitution. You see dear the Constitution grants to the Congress the power to regulate who is and who is not LEGALLY in this Country. And to establish laws on what is and is not allowed for illegal aliens to do while in this Country.
 
Let's make this real simple

you're familar with the addage $$$ talks, BS walks

the median net worth of an American family is around $120K

the median net worth of a Congresscritter is around $912K

this didn't occur like manna floating down from heaven.....
 
By what AUTHORITY does Congress have to create NON Government jobs?

By what AUTHORITY does Congress have to set CEO's and other executives pay at PRIVATE Corporations?

By what AUTHORITY does Congress have to limit private Companies from importing oil into this Country?

Just curious?

Hmmm...good question.

You want the legal answer or do you want the REAL answer?

I'll give you the REAL answer, okay?

Might makes right.

Yeah, I agree...I no more like that fact than I suspect you do.
 
Seattle is in the state of Washington and voted overwhelmingly for Obama in the last election. South Carolina did not. Bingo!
 

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