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It's good for one thing. Corporate profit. There are plenty of idiots ( perhaps millions) who have a flag in their eye.The history that is the story of the son of man sure seems to describe an angry, fatherless little bastard to me.
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If you knew what you were talking about you would make sense, but just because you do not believe does not mean God doesn't exist.The history that is the story of the son of man sure seems to describe an angry, fatherless little bastard to me.
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For those who have no faith, no amount of proof will suffice. For those who have faith, no amount of proof is required.
I dunno, dude.... a burning bush that spoke in a voice that filled the mountains would get me asking questions at the very least.
Well you would be the 1st one in some thousands of years to come up with proof that God does not exist. Are you that special?
Not special. Just free of the religious dogma that prevents so many from seeing what to me is obvious. I understand if people don't agree with me, I'm providing circumstantial evidence that God the father does not exist - I'm just waiting for someone to try and show evidence, circumstantial or otherwise, that indicates a Father taking an active role in the life of the son of man.
If you look at the human race as a whole we are an ugly lot. War, poverty, murder etc.
If you look at the life a single human who has put his faith and love in God you see a different picture.
You see a man who with his heavenly fathers help removed the bonds of alchohol and drugs. You see a man who found a love for his family. You see a man that has learned to help his fellow man in his time of need. You see a man who turned out to be a good father and husband when he was destined for a gutter. All possible with the spritual guidance of his heavenly father.
Couldn't agree more with what's in bold.
Not special. Just free of the religious dogma that prevents so many from seeing what to me is obvious. I understand if people don't agree with me, I'm providing circumstantial evidence that God the father does not exist - I'm just waiting for someone to try and show evidence, circumstantial or otherwise, that indicates a Father taking an active role in the life of the son of man.
If you look at the human race as a whole we are an ugly lot. War, poverty, murder etc.
If you look at the life a single human who has put his faith and love in God you see a different picture.
You see a man who with his heavenly fathers help removed the bonds of alchohol and drugs. You see a man who found a love for his family. You see a man that has learned to help his fellow man in his time of need. You see a man who turned out to be a good father and husband when he was destined for a gutter. All possible with the spritual guidance of his heavenly father.
Duly noted and
The pronoun in the opening post however is 'the son of man', clearly opening a discussion with a macro point of view on the position of Humanity in the universe. I'm happy to discuss the micro-management of lives lived through history by named and un-named Deities, but can we do it in another thread?
The true power of God and his good influence in the world is not going to be seen in groups of people. Its going to be seen in indviduals lives.
If you look at the human race as a whole we are an ugly lot. War, poverty, murder etc.
If you look at the life a single human who has put his faith and love in God you see a different picture.
You see a man who with his heavenly fathers help removed the bonds of alchohol and drugs. You see a man who found a love for his family. You see a man that has learned to help his fellow man in his time of need. You see a man who turned out to be a good father and husband when he was destined for a gutter. All possible with the spritual guidance of his heavenly father.
Duly noted and
The pronoun in the opening post however is 'the son of man', clearly opening a discussion with a macro point of view on the position of Humanity in the universe. I'm happy to discuss the micro-management of lives lived through history by named and un-named Deities, but can we do it in another thread?
That is my point though. You are never going to find proof of God the father when you look at man as a whole.
Duly noted and
The pronoun in the opening post however is 'the son of man', clearly opening a discussion with a macro point of view on the position of Humanity in the universe. I'm happy to discuss the micro-management of lives lived through history by named and un-named Deities, but can we do it in another thread?
That is my point though. You are never going to find proof of God the father when you look at man as a whole.
Why? That's the base question that religion is supposed to answer!
It's an impotent religion indeed that doesn't address the question "Why are we (as a creation) here?"
The true power of God and his good influence in the world is not going to be seen in groups of people. Its going to be seen in indviduals lives.
What does that say about God when, if the truth were told, no two people in history have ever worshiped their god identically?
Even among solid sub communities like Cardinals, Bishops, Priests and Monks, each person is free to construct a custom god in the privacy of their own mind.
The proof is in finding any two people who've NEVER had a religious disagreement. Where you and your pastor but heads, you each have a custom god. It's kind of cool, when you think about it, because you are absolutely correct when you say that individual lives are changed daily because of beliefs in various supernatural powers.
The true power of God and his good influence in the world is not going to be seen in groups of people. Its going to be seen in indviduals lives.
What does that say about God when, if the truth were told, no two people in history have ever worshiped their god identically?
Even among solid sub communities like Cardinals, Bishops, Priests and Monks, each person is free to construct a custom god in the privacy of their own mind.
The proof is in finding any two people who've NEVER had a religious disagreement. Where you and your pastor but heads, you each have a custom god. It's kind of cool, when you think about it, because you are absolutely correct when you say that individual lives are changed daily because of beliefs in various supernatural powers.
God does speak to each of us as individuals.
Thank (insert your preferred Deity here) for that!!According to the script " God is spirit" Tell me how big a dick a spirit has ? No dick. No father.If you look at the human race as a whole we are an ugly lot. War, poverty, murder etc.
If you look at the life a single human who has put his faith and love in God you see a different picture.
You see a man who with his heavenly fathers help removed the bonds of alchohol and drugs. You see a man who found a love for his family. You see a man that has learned to help his fellow man in his time of need. You see a man who turned out to be a good father and husband when he was destined for a gutter. All possible with the spritual guidance of his heavenly father.
Duly noted and
The pronoun in the opening post however is 'the son of man', clearly opening a discussion with a macro point of view on the position of Humanity in the universe. I'm happy to discuss the micro-management of lives lived through history by named and un-named Deities, but can we do it in another thread?
That is my point though. You are never going to find proof of God the father when you look at man as a whole.
According to the script " God is spirit" Tell me how big a dick a spirit has ? No dick. No father.Duly noted and
The pronoun in the opening post however is 'the son of man', clearly opening a discussion with a macro point of view on the position of Humanity in the universe. I'm happy to discuss the micro-management of lives lived through history by named and un-named Deities, but can we do it in another thread?
That is my point though. You are never going to find proof of God the father when you look at man as a whole.
John 12
44 - Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me. 45 - And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me.
John 12
44 - Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me. 45 - And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me.
This blessing is not like the "world" gives. In the world we are dealing with suffering, pain, turmoils. The blessing is in knowing Him.John 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen Me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
John 4:48 Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.
Romans 1
19Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Just lookin' for evidence of a father in the history of the son of man, and he's still looking like a fatherless little bastard to this average Joe.
Just lookin' for evidence of a father in the history of the son of man, and he's still looking like a fatherless little bastard to this average Joe.
I can't begin to explain the immaculate conception, if that's what you're referring to.
If/how the angel that was sent delivered the seed or if God just made the miracle happen within Mary's body in some sort of asexual way.
If you're sincere in your search I hope you find your answer.
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Just lookin' for evidence of a father in the history of the son of man, and he's still looking like a fatherless little bastard to this average Joe.
I can't begin to explain the immaculate conception, if that's what you're referring to.
If/how the angel that was sent delivered the seed or if God just made the miracle happen within Mary's body in some sort of asexual way.
If you're sincere in your search I hope you find your answer.
No, Man... It has nothing to do with conception, immaculate or otherwise. It has to do with mankind giving up on the idea of there being some sort of supernatural parent figure out there judging us and humans accepting the responsibility for our own history.
It's the only way to put it behind us.
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