Proof some people really are dumb!!!

[healthmyths]

a totally arrogant idiot who thinks the rest of us don't have access to the Internet.. I'm serious why else would such an idiot post this kind of comment:

"In early 2009 in Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Oklahoma and Tennessee, (all states that voted more heavily Republican in 2008 than in 2004), homicides increased. They decreased in almost all the major cities across the country."

AN OUT AND OUT LIE! WHY WOULD THEY BE SO STUPID NOT TO THINK PEOPLE WOULD USE THE INTERNET TO FIND OUT THE FACTS!

FACTS like this that totally 100% repudiate the statement "homicides increased"...!!!
A FU,,KING LIE!!!
FrOM THIS source: Murder Rates Nationally and By State | Death Penalty Information Center

Murders per 100,000 people:
Louisiana under Clinton 1996 had 17.6 murders per 100,000

Louisiana Under Bush 2008 had 11.9 murders A 47% decline !

Alabama under Clinton 1996 10.4 murders or Bush 2008 8.2 A 36.8% decline !

ARKANSAS Clinton's home state: 1996 had 8.7 murders per 100,000
UNDER BUSH in 2008 DECLINED to 5.7 a 52% reduction!!

Kentucky under Clinton 1996 5.9 murders or Bush 2008 4.6 murders a 28% decline!

Oklahoma under Clinton 1996 6.8 murders or Bush 2008 5.8 murders A 17% decline!

Tennessee under Clinton 1996 9.5 murders or Bush 2008 6.6 ... a 43% DECLINE!

All SIX states listed had LOWER murders per 100,000 in 2008 UNDER BUSH
then in 1996 Under Clinton!

IN fact Under Clinton in 1996 the average murder rates national was
6 murders per 100,000

Under Bush in 2008 the national average was 4 murders per 100,000!

A 41% DECLINE from Clinton's staggering 6 people murdered per 100,000!

Murder Rates Nationally and By State | Death Penalty Information Center


Really! 100% wrong in this poster's comment!

Again this just shows the complete arrogance of especially liberal/progressive/ people that have NO Problem throwing up LIES!

And this shows how truly DUMB these people are to think that those of us that question can't get to the FACTS???

Why would anyone believe these idiots anymore??

 

[Full-Auto]

a totally arrogant idiot who thinks the rest of us don't have access to the Internet.. I'm serious why else would such an idiot post this kind of comment:

"In early 2009 in Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Oklahoma and Tennessee, (all states that voted more heavily Republican in 2008 than in 2004), homicides increased. They decreased in almost all the major cities across the country."

AN OUT AND OUT LIE! WHY WOULD THEY BE SO STUPID NOT TO THINK PEOPLE WOULD USE THE INTERNET TO FIND OUT THE FACTS!

FACTS like this that totally 100% repudiate the statement "homicides increased"...!!!
A FU,,KING LIE!!!
FrOM THIS source: Murder Rates Nationally and By State | Death Penalty Information Center

Murders per 100,000 people:
Louisiana under Clinton 1996 had 17.6 murders per 100,000

Louisiana Under Bush 2008 had 11.9 murders A 47% decline !

Alabama under Clinton 1996 10.4 murders or Bush 2008 8.2 A 36.8% decline !

ARKANSAS Clinton's home state: 1996 had 8.7 murders per 100,000
UNDER BUSH in 2008 DECLINED to 5.7 a 52% reduction!!

Kentucky under Clinton 1996 5.9 murders or Bush 2008 4.6 murders a 28% decline!

Oklahoma under Clinton 1996 6.8 murders or Bush 2008 5.8 murders A 17% decline!

Tennessee under Clinton 1996 9.5 murders or Bush 2008 6.6 ... a 43% DECLINE!

All SIX states listed had LOWER murders per 100,000 in 2008 UNDER BUSH
then in 1996 Under Clinton!

IN fact Under Clinton in 1996 the average murder rates national was
6 murders per 100,000

Under Bush in 2008 the national average was 4 murders per 100,000!

A 41% DECLINE from Clinton's staggering 6 people murdered per 100,000!

Murder Rates Nationally and By State | Death Penalty Information Center


Really! 100% wrong in this poster's comment!

Again this just shows the complete arrogance of especially liberal/progressive/ people that have NO Problem throwing up LIES!

And this shows how truly DUMB these people are to think that those of us that question can't get to the FACTS???

Why would anyone believe these idiots anymore??

Take a vacation dude!

I like many of your topics and points. But the emotions are beginning to boil over.

It is nothing to be ashamed of. It happens to all of us.

Take a few days and enjoy life.

 

[uscitizen]

People are eager to believe what they want to believe. Partisan politics and FOX Nooz popularity are proof of that

 

[G.T.]

Who the fuck cares who was President in regard to Murder rates per State?

I cant think of much else that is so far off the reservation of comparison & responsibility. Jesus christ.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Proof some people really are dumb!!!

Yes, you provide proof of how dumb you are every day.

 

[uscitizen]

Now GT everyone knows that the president micromanages all the local police departments and such around the country.

 

[Valox]

Murders dropped considerable under Clinton. In 1993there were 24,526 and in 2000 there were 15,586. Under Bush, there were 16,037 in 2001 and 15,241 in 2009.
http://www.ucrdatatool.gov/Search/Crime/State/RunCrimeTrendsInOneVar.cfm

As you can see, murders dropped much more under Clinton than Bush, but I am not sure what the point of this thread is about.

 

[healthmyths]

Now GT everyone knows that the president micromanages all the local police departments and such around the country.

Jul 22, 2009 – Obama: Cambridge police acted 'stupidly'.

Why did he "micromanage the Cambridge police???

 

[healthmyths]

Murders dropped considerable under Clinton. In 1993there were 24,526 and in 2000 there were 15,586. Under Bush, there were 16,037 in 2001 and 15,241 in 2009.
http://www.ucrdatatool.gov/Search/Crime/State/RunCrimeTrendsInOneVar.cfm

As you can see, murders dropped much more under Clinton than Bush, but I am not sure what the point of this thread is about.

AND your statistics MEAN nothing because the posted thread comparison was the murder rate in the six states listed which again..
MY efforts of download the FACTS proved that contrary to this statement:
In early 2009 in Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Oklahoma and Tennessee, (all states that voted more heavily Republican in 2008 than in 2004), homicides increased. They decreased in almost all the major cities across the country."
the above is a total LIE!!

The point of the THREAD is why would a poster so arrogantly think the rest of us are
NOT smart enough to refute the out right lies!

These types of postings do NOT add to intelligent discussions which this forum should be all about!
I mean I might as well post title: "Valox is a congenital pedophile and I have proof"!
I am sure that wouldn't bother you would it??

 

[Valox]

AND your statistics MEAN nothing because the posted thread comparison was the murder rate in the six states listed which again..
MY efforts of download the FACTS proved that contrary to this statement:
In early 2009 in Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Oklahoma and Tennessee, (all states that voted more heavily Republican in 2008 than in 2004), homicides increased. They decreased in almost all the major cities across the country."
the above is a total LIE!!

Actually, Arkansas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, and Tennessee did see murders go up while Bush was in office.
http://www.ucrdatatool.gov/Search/C...?NoVariables=Y&CFID=43315439&CFTOKEN=31409365

Again, who really gives a fuck?

These types of postings do NOT add to intelligent discussions which this forum should be all about!
I mean I might as well post title: "Valox is a congenital pedophile and I have proof"!
I am sure that wouldn't bother you would it??

Knock yourself out. Your rants are amusing.

 

[skipper]

Murders dropped considerable under Clinton. In 1993there were 24,526 and in 2000 there were 15,586. Under Bush, there were 16,037 in 2001 and 15,241 in 2009.
http://www.ucrdatatool.gov/Search/Crime/State/RunCrimeTrendsInOneVar.cfm

As you can see, murders dropped much more under Clinton than Bush, but I am not sure what the point of this thread is about.

Come on now. Don't feed into his meltdown. He needs a break.

 

[Full-Auto]

People are eager to believe what they want to believe. Partisan politics and FOX Nooz popularity are proof of that

No mention of MSNBC?

 

[California Girl]

People are eager to believe what they want to believe. Partisan politics and FOX Nooz popularity are proof of that

Mirror?

 

[Dragon]

By this time, Healthmyths, anyone who believes any of your blizzard of incomplete, misapplied, and generally misleading statistics is certainly stupid.

It's already been pointed out where you left out necessary info this time: you failed to document that there was a decline in murders in the states where it's been claimed there was an increase: you posted only a one-off stat showing a murder rate at a single point in time.

If you did post accurate and complete stats, everyone would see that there WAS in fact an increase in murders in the years and states in question. This fits your usual pattern, of course. Since everyone is on to you by now, why do you bother?

 

[healthmyths]

By this time, Healthmyths, anyone who believes any of your blizzard of incomplete, misapplied, and generally misleading statistics is certainly stupid.

It's already been pointed out where you left out necessary info this time: you failed to document that there was a decline in murders in the states where it's been claimed there was an increase: you posted only a one-off stat showing a murder rate at a single point in time.

If you did post accurate and complete stats, everyone would see that there WAS in fact an increase in murders in the years and states in question. This fits your usual pattern, of course. Since everyone is on to you by now, why do you bother?

So you criticize the FACT that deaths per 100,000 went down from 1996 to 2008!
YET you accept this stupid totally LYING SACK of crap???

"In early 2009 in Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Oklahoma and Tennessee, (all states that voted more heavily Republican in 2008 than in 2004), homicides increased. They decreased in almost all the major cities across the country."

FACTS!
From 2008 to 2009..
Louisiana decline in deaths per 100,000 from 11.9 in 2008 to 11.8 2009! Under Obama!
Alabama 7.6 under Bush declined under Obama to 6.8
Tennessee 6.6 under Bush [U]INCREASED under Obama to 7.4[/U]
Oklahoma 5.8 under Bush[B] INCREASED under Obama 6.3[/B]
Arkansas 5.7 under Bush INCREASED under Obama 6.2
Kentucky 4.6 under Bush Declined under Obama to 4.3


NOW Those are the FACTS!!!

 

[NLT]

People are eager to believe what they want to believe. Partisan politics and FOX Nooz popularity are proof of that

As well as CNN, MSNBC,CBS, ABC, NBC and NPR. Just so you know.

 

[G.T.]

By this time, Healthmyths, anyone who believes any of your blizzard of incomplete, misapplied, and generally misleading statistics is certainly stupid.

It's already been pointed out where you left out necessary info this time: you failed to document that there was a decline in murders in the states where it's been claimed there was an increase: you posted only a one-off stat showing a murder rate at a single point in time.

If you did post accurate and complete stats, everyone would see that there WAS in fact an increase in murders in the years and states in question. This fits your usual pattern, of course. Since everyone is on to you by now, why do you bother?

So you criticize the FACT that deaths per 100,000 went down from 1996 to 2008!
YET you accept this stupid totally LYING SACK of crap???

"In early 2009 in Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Oklahoma and Tennessee, (all states that voted more heavily Republican in 2008 than in 2004), homicides increased. They decreased in almost all the major cities across the country."

FACTS!
From 2008 to 2009..
Louisiana decline in deaths per 100,000 from 11.9 in 2008 to 11.8 2009! Under Obama!
Alabama 7.6 under Bush declined under Obama to 6.8
Tennessee 6.6 under Bush [U]INCREASED under Obama to 7.4[/U]
Oklahoma 5.8 under Bush[B] INCREASED under Obama 6.3[/B]
Arkansas 5.7 under Bush INCREASED under Obama 6.2
Kentucky 4.6 under Bush Declined under Obama to 4.3


NOW Those are the FACTS!!!

Yea, except you're citing the RATEs, and the sentence you're attempting to boon-doggle cites total number, dipshit.

Take a fucking seat, you're always wrong, all of the time. That's.......................saD.

Go Giants.

 

[G.T.]

Also, what part of the phrase EARLY 2009 has you pulling stats from ALL OF 2009?

dweeb.

 

[bitterlyclingin]

The Democrats are too busy uncapping the bottle that holds the RaceWar Genie to worry about which murder rates occurred under which President. Gonna be trivial numbers in comparison to coming attractions. They're not even worrying about how they're going to get the Genie back into the bottle after they're done using him

 

[healthmyths]

By this time, Healthmyths, anyone who believes any of your blizzard of incomplete, misapplied, and generally misleading statistics is certainly stupid.

It's already been pointed out where you left out necessary info this time: you failed to document that there was a decline in murders in the states where it's been claimed there was an increase: you posted only a one-off stat showing a murder rate at a single point in time.

If you did post accurate and complete stats, everyone would see that there WAS in fact an increase in murders in the years and states in question. This fits your usual pattern, of course. Since everyone is on to you by now, why do you bother?

So you criticize the FACT that deaths per 100,000 went down from 1996 to 2008!
YET you accept this stupid totally LYING SACK of crap???

"In early 2009 in Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Oklahoma and Tennessee, (all states that voted more heavily Republican in 2008 than in 2004), homicides increased. They decreased in almost all the major cities across the country."

FACTS!
From 2008 to 2009..
Louisiana decline in deaths per 100,000 from 11.9 in 2008 to 11.8 2009! Under Obama!
Alabama 7.6 under Bush declined under Obama to 6.8
Tennessee 6.6 under Bush [U]INCREASED under Obama to 7.4[/U]
Oklahoma 5.8 under Bush[B] INCREASED under Obama 6.3[/B]
Arkansas 5.7 under Bush INCREASED under Obama 6.2
Kentucky 4.6 under Bush Declined under Obama to 4.3


NOW Those are the FACTS!!!

Yea, except you're citing the RATEs, and the sentence you're attempting to boon-doggle cites total number, dipshit.

Take a fucking seat, you're always wrong, all of the time. That's.......................saD.

Go Giants.

FACTS: from this web site:
U. S. Crime Statistics Total and by State 1960 - 2010

Alabama murders in 2008 257 in 2009 322 Decrease of 35!
Arkansas murders in 2008 164 2009 179 INCREASE of 15
Kentucky murders in 2008 202 2009 184 DECREASE of 18
Louisiana murders in 2008 541 2009 529 DECREASE 12
Oklahoma murders in 2008 212 2009 234 INCREASE 22
Tennessee murders in 2008 412 2009 468 Increase 56

So the ABOVE quote:"In early 2009 in Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Oklahoma and Tennessee, (all states that voted more heavily Republican in 2008 than in 2004), homicides increased. "

IS A LIE because NOT ALL six states had increase in murders!
3 increased but 3 decreased!

SO the above quote was a a LIE when he said HOMICIDES INCREASED! BIG LIE!

OH and I agree though with you.. Go Giants!