Progressives taught me how to hate

[Unkotare]

Now if you want to oppose my logic and ideas then do it with some substance....

Oppose your what?! You have no logic, you mouth-breathing sub-human. You're an idiot.



Have you discussed your hate with your priest, liar? Have you found that 'nice girl' who shares your 'morality' yet, scumbag?

You're and [sic] ignorant tool..

Everyone has some sort of logic.....

It seems to be yet another word you don't understand. After you have your talk with your priest (which you won't, because you are a liar) you should go find an English teacher.

 

[Unkotare]

Progressives taught me how to hate.

How did they do that?

I don't think anyone ever taught Mr. Thick anything. He is not capable of learning.

 

[Mr.Nick]

Nah, it was your mommy and daddy that did that.

My parents had nothing to do with my political leanings..

At one point when I was younger I was a progressive. Hell, when I was a progressive my parents were "republicans" now we're all "classical liberals."

I remember when I was younger my ignorant ass was attempting to debate my mom over redistribution of wealth and taxes and my position was that the rich should pay more in taxes because they had more wealth. My mother was like "how is that fair" - that was pretty much the day I rethought my politics...

How can we be a fair and free nation when we ask others to do more and contribute more than the next guy??

Oh I thought you said hate, not political leanings....First of all the progressive tax rate is not redistribution of wealth.

With the tax loopholes it is not fair that a fellow like Romey can pay less percentage wise than a guy making 60K.

Taxation for the purpose of redistribution IS de facto redistribution of wealth...

 

[Mr.Nick]

Nah, it was your mommy and daddy that did that.

My parents had nothing to do with my political leanings..

At one point when I was younger I was a progressive. Hell, when I was a progressive my parents were "republicans" now we're all "classical liberals."

I remember when I was younger my ignorant ass was attempting to debate my mom over redistribution of wealth and taxes and my position was that the rich should pay more in taxes because they had more wealth. My mother was like "how is that fair" - that was pretty much the day I rethought my politics...

How can we be a fair and free nation when we ask others to do more and contribute more than the next guy??

Because those who EARN MORE, have a DUTY to pay back the circumstances that allowed them to "do more and contribute more" than the next guy.

OR....


I. The subjects of every state ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities;

that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state.

-Adam Smith
Wealth of Nations.

Do you think your MOM knows more about economics than him?
Perhaps it's time for you to re-re-examine your politics about taxation.


This is the problem with the internet.
You don't have a decent education in economic and the foundations upon which to answer your mom's question. So you go with the easiest answer that makes the most sense. But that's not necessarily the RIGHT one, because you fail to understand the intellectual underpinning of "progressive" taxation. (in the progressive sense, not the political one).

A nation of rugged individualists that don't owe each other anything or don't come together to create something greater than the sum of it's parts is hardly the "United" States of America, is it?

You think the founding fathers were rugged individualists? No They realized that if they didn't hang together, they'd all hang separately and risked their considerable fortunes to ensure our freedom.

Well if it matters my mother is the comptroller of 16 companies..

Yeah I think she knows something about business and economics...

Are you the chief accountant of 16 different companies owned by one corporation???

 

[KevinWestern]

I think you're confused here.

I don't "hate" them because of what they think about me - I could care less about that. I hate them because because they're tyrannical, dangerous and stupid.

They're a threat to freedom..

I hate them because they cloak their hate in do-good bullshit....

They hate everything I represent and I hate them for everything they represent - I'm just being logical about it...

Progressives are the ones who sit there all day talking about how "hate" is irrational, yet all they do is hate. I'm saying I do hate progressives and it is perfectly a perfectly rational feeling. If anything I'm above the progressives for admitting this - while they pussy-foot around their feelings...

This is the problem Mr. Nick, not everyone who is left of center with regards to their political leanings is an extreme communist or Marxist who wants the government to take over and control every aspect of our lives. In fact, those types of democrats are quite rare. You seem to be viewing the world from this extreme black and white lens, but in reality, that's just not how it is.

This isn’t a country of extremes (as some of the news networks like make you believe), this is a largely moderate country.

I consider myself “progressive” when it comes to the social issues, and support things like gay marriage and keeping a religious favoritism out of our government, so does that make me hateful?

Your secularist brainwashing has made you an idiot. We've covered this already.

A rather Trollish reply from someone who called Mr. Nick a troll. Were you the one who was talking about irony earlier?

 

[Avatar4321]

Hate drew a circle that shut me out
Heretic, rebel, a thing to flout.
But love and I had the wit to win
We drew a circle that took him in”
- Charles Edwin Markham

They may teach you to hate. But if we do hate, they win. We need to love. Overwhelm them with such love that they cannot withstand it.

The people need to see the contrast between good and evil.

That is the same logic they use with their "social justice" nonsense...

You have two sides that want to love one another to death but want to eradicate one another...

You're going to have to expand on your "same logic" Comment because im not seeing it.

Ive seen absolutive no evidence that progressives love anyone but themselves and power.

 

[Mr.Nick]

Oppose your what?! You have no logic, you mouth-breathing sub-human. You're an idiot.



Have you discussed your hate with your priest, liar? Have you found that 'nice girl' who shares your 'morality' yet, scumbag?

You're and [sic] ignorant tool..

Everyone has some sort of logic.....

It seems to be yet another word you don't understand. After you have your talk with your priest (which you won't, because you are a liar) you should go find an English teacher.

You do realize you have been on my ignore list for the past 6 months???

No wonder why...

You're a fucking troll.

I have to click "view post" to even see your comments...

You don't want to have a debate - you just want to talk shit....

Now who is the real hater here???

Oh yeah - you prove my fucking point...

 

[Mr.Nick]

Hate drew a circle that shut me out
Heretic, rebel, a thing to flout.
But love and I had the wit to win
We drew a circle that took him in”
- Charles Edwin Markham

They may teach you to hate. But if we do hate, they win. We need to love. Overwhelm them with such love that they cannot withstand it.

The people need to see the contrast between good and evil.

That is the same logic they use with their "social justice" nonsense...

You have two sides that want to love one another to death but want to eradicate one another...

You're going to have to expand on your "same logic" Comment because im not seeing it.

Ive seen absolutive no evidence that progressives love anyone but themselves and power.

My point is that I do believe some progressives have good intentions - and conservatives have good intentions... Both think they're doing the right thing when they vote...

Both vote with their hearts...

 

[Mr.Nick]

At any rate I have to do shit today and I cant debate all day here...

I'll be back later to reply to those that "hate" me hahaha..

 

[Unkotare]

This is the problem Mr. Nick, not everyone who is left of center with regards to their political leanings is an extreme communist or Marxist who wants the government to take over and control every aspect of our lives. In fact, those types of democrats are quite rare. You seem to be viewing the world from this extreme black and white lens, but in reality, that's just not how it is.

This isn’t a country of extremes (as some of the news networks like make you believe), this is a largely moderate country.

I consider myself “progressive” when it comes to the social issues, and support things like gay marriage and keeping a religious favoritism out of our government, so does that make me hateful?

Your secularist brainwashing has made you an idiot. We've covered this already.

A rather Trollish reply from someone who called Mr. Nick a troll. Were you the one who was talking about irony earlier?

Your humiliation is waiting for you on the other thread, lefty.

 

[Unkotare]

You're and [sic] ignorant tool..

Everyone has some sort of logic.....

It seems to be yet another word you don't understand. After you have your talk with your priest (which you won't, because you are a liar) you should go find an English teacher.

You do realize you have been on my ignore list for the past 6 months???

I guess not, since you keep responding to me. I can understand your wanting to hide from the humiliation you bring upon yourself but you really can't seem to do anything right, not even being a coward.

 

[Unkotare]

At any rate I have to do shit today and I cant debate all day here...

I'll be back later to reply to those that "hate" me hahaha..

You no doubt have "shit" to do.

 

[KevinWestern]

Your secularist brainwashing has made you an idiot. We've covered this already.

A rather Trollish reply from someone who called Mr. Nick a troll. Were you the one who was talking about irony earlier?

Your humiliation is waiting for you on the other thread, lefty.

Humiliation? Debating with you is like debating with a 7th grader. You have zero debate skills Unkotare, and your only tactic (if you can even call it a tactic) is calling people names like "clown" and "lefty".

Maybe if I were nine or ten, the name calling would make me feel slightly upset. But in the adult world, name calling just just doesn't work anymore. You need to try something else.
Also, I apologize if you are in fact nine or ten, in which case I'll lay off you.

 

[KevinWestern]

I think you're confused here.

I don't "hate" them because of what they think about me - I could care less about that. I hate them because because they're tyrannical, dangerous and stupid.

They're a threat to freedom..

I hate them because they cloak their hate in do-good bullshit....

They hate everything I represent and I hate them for everything they represent - I'm just being logical about it...

Progressives are the ones who sit there all day talking about how "hate" is irrational, yet all they do is hate. I'm saying I do hate progressives and it is perfectly a perfectly rational feeling. If anything I'm above the progressives for admitting this - while they pussy-foot around their feelings...

This is the problem Mr. Nick, not everyone who is left of center with regards to their political leanings is an extreme communist or Marxist who wants the government to take over and control every aspect of our lives. In fact, those types of democrats are quite rare. You seem to be viewing the world from this extreme black and white lens, but in reality, that's just not how it is.

This isn’t a country of extremes (as some of the news networks like make you believe), this is a largely moderate country.

I consider myself “progressive” when it comes to the social issues, and support things like gay marriage and keeping a religious favoritism out of our government, so does that make me hateful?

I said progressive NOT liberal...

Progressives look to government to force progress - they look to government to create their "social utopia."

Guess what? there are 300,000,000 different ideas of a "social utopia" in the US.

How about you subscribe to classical liberalism? that way we all can do what makes us happy, within logical law (no murder, theft, assaults etc)...

I don't need government telling me I cant grow a fucking tomato garden in my front yard..

I have a serious problem with authoritarians...

Fair enough, and I have a serious problem with authoritarians as well. The GOP needs to be careful on this front because with each Santorum that comes around they're losing credibility as the "small gov't" party.

I believe the role of government should be to do the things that the private market cannot do and nothing more. This goes for things like the military, law enforcement, and dealing with some of the unfair negative externalities that the free market tends to produce yet does not address very well. One example would be a company who makes $10 million profit every year, but also $20 million worth of environmental waste that it would not have to clean up in the absence of government regulation. If the government doesn't step in, who cleans up that $20 million worth of waste?

But I agree that there is over regulation and unethical regulation, such as laws created thanks to the lobbying of the big companies that intentionally make it harder for the smaller companies to get a solid foot in the game. Laws and regulation that thwart competition, and display favoritism to certain types of companies.

 

[Unkotare]

A rather Trollish reply from someone who called Mr. Nick a troll. Were you the one who was talking about irony earlier?

Your humiliation is waiting for you on the other thread, lefty.

Humiliation? Debating with you is like debating with a 7th grader.

Well, since that is 5 or 6 grades above your capacity, I can see why you find it so intimidating.

 

[KevinWestern]

Your humiliation is waiting for you on the other thread, lefty.

Humiliation? Debating with you is like debating with a 7th grader.

Well, since that is 5 or 6 grades above your capacity, I can see why you find it so intimidating.

Do you realize that with comments like this, Unkotare, you're actually strengthening my case?

Unk, let's just cast our differences aside and move on. I hate tearing people down like this, especially random internet people. Agree to move on?
.
.

 

[Mr.Nick]

This is the problem Mr. Nick, not everyone who is left of center with regards to their political leanings is an extreme communist or Marxist who wants the government to take over and control every aspect of our lives. In fact, those types of democrats are quite rare. You seem to be viewing the world from this extreme black and white lens, but in reality, that's just not how it is.

This isn’t a country of extremes (as some of the news networks like make you believe), this is a largely moderate country.

I consider myself “progressive” when it comes to the social issues, and support things like gay marriage and keeping a religious favoritism out of our government, so does that make me hateful?

I said progressive NOT liberal...

Progressives look to government to force progress - they look to government to create their "social utopia."

Guess what? there are 300,000,000 different ideas of a "social utopia" in the US.

How about you subscribe to classical liberalism? that way we all can do what makes us happy, within logical law (no murder, theft, assaults etc)...

I don't need government telling me I cant grow a fucking tomato garden in my front yard..

I have a serious problem with authoritarians...

Fair enough, and I have a serious problem with authoritarians as well. The GOP needs to be careful on this front because with each Santorum that comes around they're losing credibility as the "small gov't" party.

I believe the role of government should be to do the things that the private market cannot do and nothing more. This goes for things like the military, law enforcement, and dealing with some of the unfair negative externalities that the free market tends to produce yet does not address very well. One example would be a company who makes $10 million profit every year, but also $20 million worth of environmental waste that it would not have to clean up in the absence of government regulation. If the government doesn't step in, who cleans up that $20 million worth of waste?

But I agree that there is over regulation and unethical regulation, such as laws created thanks to the lobbying of the big companies that intentionally make it harder for the smaller companies to get a solid foot in the game. Laws and regulation that thwart competition, and display favoritism to certain types of companies.

Then I think we're on the same page...

I'm educated unlike others, the same "hysteria" that surrounds Obama and progressives in general is the same hysteria that surrounded Stalin, Mao, Hitler etc...

The old saying is that - if we don't learn the past we will repeat it...

The idea of socialism/communism or even fascism (what is the difference really?) doesn't work and I hate those who believe it does.

So yeah, I hate those who are dumb enough to fall for the personality cult nonsense and Obama supporters are nothing more than members of a personality cult....

Sorry if my "hate" stops the progress of a personality cult er "cult of personality"....

That is all I'm saying.

I don't want to see a Maoist China occurring in the United States because the totalitarians lured in the democratic vote with candy then destroyed democracy...

 

[Mr.Nick]

Humiliation? Debating with you is like debating with a 7th grader.

Well, since that is 5 or 6 grades above your capacity, I can see why you find it so intimidating.

Do you realize that with comments like this, Unkotare, you're actually strengthening my case?

Unk, let's just cast our differences aside and move on. I hate tearing people down like this, especially random internet people. Agree to move on?
.
.

This is why I have had his ass on ignore for 6 months...

He's a fucking troll...

His parents are obviously failures - they raised an less educated morAn....

When the discussion at hand gets too philosophical or too intellectual he has a difficult time following in the direction the discussion or debate, then he starts flaming people..

This is why I hate progressives - well I feel apathetic for the dumb ones..

If you don't tow the party line then "you're an idiot." They don't ponder a fucking thing - they do as they're told and they trust the information they're force-fed

 

[Peach]

That is the same logic they use with their "social justice" nonsense...

You have two sides that want to love one another to death but want to eradicate one another...

You're going to have to expand on your "same logic" Comment because im not seeing it.

Ive seen absolutive no evidence that progressives love anyone but themselves and power.

My point is that I do believe some progressives have good intentions - and conservatives have good intentions... Both think they're doing the right thing when they vote...

Both vote with their hearts...

To some extent that is true. My heart was with McCain in 2008, none so far have touched my heart this year.

 

[Avatar4321]

My point is that I do believe some progressives have good intentions - and conservatives have good intentions... Both think they're doing the right thing when they vote...

Both vote with their hearts...

Well, im not talking about voting with one's heart. Or voting at all really. Im talking about not letting their hate consume you.