Progressives By GB

I guess the words and the history of progressivism has no relevance, to the opinion of those who are spouting off about progressivism here at the forum.

Lots of progressives are afraid of Beck. This is a good thing. They should be afraid. He is dangerous to them, because he shines a light on the dark corners of progressivism.

He also shines the light on things like FEMA camps.....but if you think that snake oil will cure you, take a big ol gulp. He appreciates your patronage and giggles all the way to the bank.
 
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Glenn Beck is pretty cool. I don't always agree with him but i do on this one. He is a recovering alcoholic but i see no need to smear the guy over that. In fact i actually admire the guy for his strength. You may disagree with him but the personal smears are just plain sad. Progressives are making a nasty habit out of personal smears these days. What they did to Palin and her family was unforgivable. I think most common sense thinking people can see what they're all about. This type of personal smearing will likely come back to haunt them at some point. Lets hope so anyway.
 
Glenn Beck is pretty cool. I don't always agree with him but i do on this one. He is a recovering alcoholic but i see no need to smear the guy over that. In fact i actually admire the guy for his strength. You may disagree with him but the personal smears are just plain sad. Progressives are making a nasty habit out of personal smears these days. What they did to Palin and her family was unforgivable. I think most common sense thinking people can see what they're all about. This type of personal smearing will likely come back to haunt them at some point. Lets hope so anyway.

Both sides do it......even to their own.

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The guest speakers

Burton W. Folsom Jr.
Burton W. Folsom is a professor of history at Hillsdale College in Michigan and senior historian at the Foundation for Economic Education in Irvington, New York. He is a regular columnist for The Freeman and has written articles for The Wall Street Journal and American Spectator, among other publications. He lives in Michigan.

Ronald J. Pestritto

Charles and Lucia Shipley Chair in American Constitution and Associate Professor of Political Science,
Hillsdale College

Larry Schweikart

Dr. Schweikart's latest book is 48 Liberal Lies About American History (That You Probably Learned in School). "Schweikart examined the top-selling U.S. history textbooks, along with other resources used in public schools, and found them seriously flawed. Not only were liberal lies pervasive, so was a negative view of America. As he writes in the book's introduction, modern textbooks often portray America as a racist, sexist, imperialist regime. Good news is often omitted, while America's failings are emphasized." [2]
Schweikart, Larry (2008), 48 Liberal Lies About American History, Penguin Group USA, ISBN 1595230513
Schweikart, Larry (2007), America's Victories: Why the U.S. Wins Wars and Will Win the War on Terror, Penguin Group (USA) Incorporated, ISBN 1595230386
Schweikart, Larry (2006), September Day, Alpha Connections, ISBN 0974761095
Schweikart, Larry & Michael Allen (2004), A Patriot's History of the United States: From Columbus's Great Discovery to the War on Terror, Sentinel, ISBN 1595230017
Schweikart, Larry & Bradley J. Birzer (2003), The American West, John Wiley & Sons, ISBN 0471401382
Schweikart, Larry (2003), Technology and the Culture of War, Pearson Custom Pub, ISBN 0536732264
Schweikart, Larry (2003), The Hypersonic Revolution: Case Studies in the History of Hypersonic Technology, V. 1-3, Dept. of the Air Force, ISBN 0160677025
Schweikart, Larry & Michael Allen (2001), Patriots History of the United, Sentinel, ISBN 5558757035
Schweikart, Larry (1999), The Entrepreneurial Adventure: A History of Business in the United States, Cengage Learning, ISBN 0155084550
Doti, Lynne Pierson & Larry Schweikart (1994), California Bankers 1848-1993, Ginn Press, ISBN 9546285567
Doti, Lynne Pierson & Larry Schweikart (1991), Banking in the American West: From the Gold Rush to Deregulation, University of Oklahoma Press, ISBN 0806123737
Schweikart, Larry (1990), Banking and Finance, 1913-1989, Facts on File, ISBN 0816021945
Schweikart, Larry (1990), Banking and Finance to 1913, Facts on File, ISBN 0816021937
Schweikart, Larry (1987), Banking in the American South from the Age of Jackson to Reconstruction, LSU Press, ISBN 0807124710
Schweikart, Larry (1984), Banking in the West, Sunflower University Press, ISBN 0897450515
Dalgleish, D. Douglas & Larry Schweikart (1984), Trident, Southern Illinois University Press, ISBN 0809311267
Schweikart, Larry (1982), A History of Banking in Arizona, University of Arizona Press, ISBN 0816507937
 
I really do think that most people still confuse Socialism/Progressivism with Liberalism. This current President is not a Liberal. He is an indoctrinated and trained Marxist or Progressive. Calling him and most Democrats Liberals would be like calling Stalin,Mao,and Castro,Liberals. For instance,no true Liberal could ever support a brutal Dictator like Hugo Chavez. True Liberals stand for individual freedom and liberty. Take a look at all the Hugo Chavez Butt-Sniffers in this country. They are all Democrats for the most part. These Democrats are not Liberals though. They are Socialists/Progressives instead. There is a difference. People just need to know these differences. GB did nail it when he said that the Socialists/Progressives have infested both parties at this point. Hey just my two cents anyway.

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I listen to Gle Beck on the radio.

He is missing the whole of what the early 20th cent progressives were trying to do and who todays progressives actually are.

Progressivism is a social/political reaction that arises from the feeling that the government/society is out of control. On the left, it is a feeling of a need to renew or save the environment and to "give back" to those in need. On the right it is the desire to return "to the constitution".

The feeling of renewal--the idea of wanting to take the country into a direction that is better than the current is was what today progressives espouse.

Better or just more controlled?

Progressives believe they have all of the answers. Problem is that this was all tried before and it didn't work. So you think it will work any better now?

The problem with progressives is they believe that America is fucked. They have nothing good to say about it. They live in a dream world were everyone shares equally. In all seriousness they're just pawns for communists. They just call what they want a different name. Socialism, Marxism, Progressivism, and a bit of fascism thrown in for good measure. Progressives are a hybrid of what they used to be but what is spells out is a power grab that will result in a massive infringement of our civil liberties.
 
I listen to Gle Beck on the radio.

He is missing the whole of what the early 20th cent progressives were trying to do and who todays progressives actually are.

Progressivism is a social/political reaction that arises from the feeling that the government/society is out of control. On the left, it is a feeling of a need to renew or save the environment and to "give back" to those in need. On the right it is the desire to return "to the constitution".

The feeling of renewal--the idea of wanting to take the country into a direction that is better than the current is was what today progressives espouse.

Better or just more controlled?

Progressives believe they have all of the answers. Problem is that this was all tried before and it didn't work. So you think it will work any better now?

The problem with progressives is they believe that America is fucked. They have nothing good to say about it. They live in a dream world were everyone shares equally. In all seriousness they're just pawns for communists. They just call what they want a different name. Socialism, Marxism, Progressivism, and a bit of fascism thrown in for good measure. Progressives are a hybrid of what they used to be but what is spells out is a power grab that will result in a massive infringement of our civil liberties.
"Progressives believe they have all of the answers. Problem is that this was all tried before and it didn't work. So you think it will work any better now?"


Umm Those traits are not just limited to Progressives, all parties/groups seem to share those traits.
 
Between the Covers on National Review Online

Burton W. Folsom, Jr. on New Deal or Raw Deal: How FDR's Economic Legacy Has Damaged America

Burton W. Folsom, Jr., author of New Deal or Raw Deal: How FDR's Economic Legacy Has Damaged America, tells John J. Miller, “Hardly anybody who writes on the New Deal mentions that Roosevelt rasied taxes to the top marginal rate in 1935 to 79%.”
 
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Listening to that puts the Obama stimulus in a whole new light.
It explains why the money hasn't been spent yet , It will be doled out based on crony ism
 
the clips posted are by a certified drunkard and rich, white angry victim..

Glenn Beck

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You're a very bitter, small minded person, Dev. He's a recovering alcoholic - which you may find entertaining and worthy of deriding but I find it something to be respected. I admire people who recognize they have a problem and solve it. He is indeed a wealthy man - now. Every penny of it was earned by his own hard work. I find it sad that something that used to be respected is not something that jealous small minded people are resentful of. I feel sorry for you.
 
Progress and elite.

Two words with positive connotations that have had their derivatives demonized by the right in the last few years.

And they expect people to take them seriously.
 
Progress and elite.

Two words with positive connotations that have had their derivatives demonized by the right in the last few years.

And they expect people to take them seriously.

The problem is elitism
 
Reading Woodrow Wilson
A review of Constitutional Government in the United States, by Woodrow Wilson




By Ronald J. Pestritto

Posted February 13, 2003

This article appeared in the Winter 2002 issue of the Claremont Review of Books. Click here to send a comment.

Given the importance of the Progressive movement to the direction of American politics in the 20th century, it is surprising that very little of the Progressives' main political writings are available in print. Indeed, those of us who teach them are often forced to rely on distributing large photocopied collections of their out-of-print works. This is why the new reprint (in paperback) of Woodrow Wilson's Constitutional Government in the United States is such a welcome development. Published by Transaction, with a new introduction by Sidney A. Pearson, Jr., Constitutional Government allows readers access to the constitutional thinking of one of Progressivism's most important figures.

The book began life as a series of lectures at Columbia University in 1907, which Wilson was happy to deliver. He was then the president of Princeton University and in the thick of bitter campus controversy. Published in 1908, Constitutional Government would be his final book as what he called a "literary politician." Two years later, he would be elected governor of New Jersey; two years after that, President of the United States. These lectures are the best guide to the political science he brought with him to the White House.

For Wilson, although the Constitution had been appropriate for the founding era, it needed now to be adapted to the demands of a new age. The problem was that the old constitutional order was standing in the way of progress. Its fixed, highly individualistic view of rights didn't square with the realities of an interdependent, industrialized economy. And its checks-and-balances-ridden institutions could not accommodate the new programs and agencies needed to solve the country's multiplying social problems. America had to shift, Wilson concluded, from a limited to a living constitution. It had to move from a "Newtonian" to a "Darwinian" understanding of politics. It had to replace government according to the Constitution with what he termed "constitutional government."

Based upon his general objection to the founders' understanding of government, Wilson proposed a series of "reforms" designed to undermine the separation of powers system at the heart of limited government. Among these were new theories of presidential leadership and party government, as well as a new-fangled separation of politics and administration.

Such fundamental changes in American constitutionalism are registered nicely in Pearson's introduction to the new edition of Constitutional Government. His essay is well worth reading as a refreshing alternative to much of the standard scholarship on Wilson. Contrary to those who are taken in by Wilson's claim that he is merely adapting the arguments of the founders to a new generation, Pearson, a political scientist at Radford University, appreciates the radical nature of Wilson's argument. He rightly sees in Wilson "the foundation of the modern Liberal critique of the political science of the founders." Pearson also explains how Wilson's evolutionary interpretation of the Constitution had its roots in German idealism and historicism. In short, Pearson goes well beyond those interpreters who see the primary influence on Wilson as Walter Bagehot and other writers in the English Historical School. This edition of Constitutional Government therefore performs the dual service of returning to print a vital source of modern liberal thought in America, and providing a concise interpretation of Wilson's role in the American tradition.
Ronald Pestritto holds the Charles and Lucia Shipley Chair in the American Constitution at Hillsdale College and is a senior fellow of the College's Kirby Center. He teaches political philosophy, American political thought, and American politics.

The Claremont Institute - Ronald J. Pestritto
 

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