Progressives and Parental Rights.

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    Chicago school bans some lunches brought from home

    To encourage healthful eating, Chicago school doesn't allow kids to bring lunches or certain snacks from home — and some parents, and many students, aren't fans of the policy

    1. "Who thinks the lunch is not good enough?" the seventh-grader shouted to his lunch mates in Spanish and English. Dozens of hands flew in the air and fellow students shouted along: "We should bring our own lunch! We should bring our own lunch! We should bring our own lunch!"

    2. At his public school, Little Village Academy on Chicago's West Side, students are not allowed to pack lunches from home.Principal Elsa Carmona said her intention is to protect students from their own unhealthful food choices.

    3. "While there is no formal policy, principals use common sense judgment based on their individual school environments," Monique Bond wrote in an email.

    4. At Little Village, most students must take the meals served in the cafeteria or go hungry or both. During a recent visit to the school, dozens of students took the lunch but threw most of it in the garbage uneaten.

    5. "This is such a fundamental infringement on parental responsibility," said J. Justin Wilson, a senior researcher at the Washington-based Center for Consumer Freedom, which is partially funded by the food industry.
    School's food is the only option for some kids - chicagotribune.com


    Dennis Prager's definition of liberalism:

    Good Intentions plus Coercion equals Solution.

    Can you deny it?
     
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    Ridiculous. The parents have the right to do something about it. I hope they do.
     
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    Glad we're on the same page here.

    So, can I push the envelope?
    Philosophically, how is this not a microcosm of ObamaCare?
     
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    PoliticalChic, when your posts include your favorite bogeyman please have the integrity to post something a progressive would agree to. This is good old power, capitalism, free market, principals, and other assorted people of good and maybe not so good intentions trying to manage the world. Why are they progressives? Some like it, some don't and can we really trust the integrity of the authors or even the paper? This is local policy and parents can and should discuss it, but methinks this may just be a mountain out of a molehill.

    "But parent Miguel Medina said he thinks the "no home lunch policy" is a good one. "The school food is very healthy," he said, "and when they bring the food from home, there is no control over the food."

    At Claremont Academy Elementary School on the South Side, officials allow packed lunches but confiscate any snacks loaded with sugar or salt. (They often are returned after school.) Principal Rebecca Stinson said that though students may not like it, she has yet to hear a parent complain.


    "The kids may have money or earn money and (buy junk food) without their parents' knowledge," Stinson said, adding that most parents expect that the school will look out for their children.

    Such discussions over school lunches and healthy eating echo a larger national debate about the role government should play in individual food choices.

    "This is such a fundamental infringement on parental responsibility," said J. Justin Wilson, a senior researcher at the Washington-based Center for Consumer Freedom, which is partially funded by the food industry."
     
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    How is it the business of the school if a child brings a lunch from the home? what is this Communist Russia?
     
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    If a parent doesn't qualify for their child to receive free lunch, then it's their choice what to purchase for their child's lunch. Encouraging healthy choices is fine, but mandating it is another thing IMO.
     
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    condition them early to take orders from government.
    Government knows what's good for you. Your parents can't even feed you properly, how can they teach you how to not get knocked up?

    etc, etc, etc

    Isn't it odd how it took the kids to get pissed for this to make the news?
     
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    Obamacare is like the school requiring that all kids either bring lunch or buy it, and penalizing the kids if they don't.

    For the record, this school is being kinda ridiculous. I don't see this policy lasting more than a few weeks, if even that. Someone is getting hung out to dry.

    But if you want to take the school lunch and healthcare analogy farther, what should have happened is that you make health insurance like the free lunch program: Namely if you can't afford it, we'll help you get it.
     
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    Illinois and specifically chicago have been run by dems for decades. The occasional rep that gets in is usually corrupt.

    Everyone wants to control whatever they are responsible for. The more they control it, they more they can show a need to fund it.

    If you can't bring lunch, you must buy lunch, thus the school needs more money to fund lunch, more money means better chance of fraud, a better chance of fraud..

    well , I think you get it.
     
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    Because this kind of crap has been going on for quite a while...long before Obama was even president. Kids can't bring stuff to school for their b-day. Teachers can no longer have parties where parents send stuff. Soda machines are a thing of the past at school. My daughter's school can't even have fund raisers at dances selling soda and candy if the dance is right after school hours....and this stuff has been in place for at least 5 years now.
     

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