Progressive protester lies about parents losing house

Why not just accept that he was Very Very Very naughty? It's looking like Hype.
it's looking like hype if you believe the blogger that just doesn't have his facts straight, perhaps? :eusa_whistle:

i could care less about a single protester who claims to be a Socialist, mouthing off and being pissed at wall street bankers...his butt would be raw if he were my son, airing our family's dirty laundry in public the way he did.....

but as far as whether his story or the blogger's Story is true or not, i don't believe we have the facts to really make that decision.....

My source is Independent. You might want to check it out. Might be good to hold off until more comes in. ;)
it was the SAME story i read at the blog site intense....if you are talking about what you pasted in the post.... it still makes no sense....something is missing....the Socialist guy made up a story, the conservative medias made up a story, or the mother made up a story....there is nothing that has been posted so far, that with honesty, that clears it up....imo.
 
The House isn't in Foreclosure. It's public records.

The family still lives in the house.

They owe about $60,000 left on thse half a million dollar house.

You guys are seriously going to argue that this guy is being honest?
the guy said it was a 500k house. the guy said they only owe a year's worth of tuition on it...let's take your 60k.....

if it is a short sell and they only owe the bank 60k as the guy said, then this means this guys parents would be selling their house for less than the 60k they owe the bank, let's say for 50k...that would be a short sell....selling the house for less than what you owe the bank....

Now, why in the world would a couple sell their 500k home for 50k?

HINT, they wouldn't.

they would sell it for 400k or maybe even 300k if they wanted to get rid of this 500k house quickly. and then out of that 300k they would pay the bank the 60k they owe and this would not be a short sell for the bank.

the guys lying avatar...or he just has no idea what he is talking about....

the parents owe the whole 500k or there abouts for the house and not just the 60k as the guy said or they would NOT HAVE TO HAVE IT UP FOR A SHORT SELL.

a short sell is basically one hair from foreclosure....

but your guys STORY of them only owing 60k on the500k house is simply impossible
First..he claimed it was taken in a foreclosure. It wasn't. Next, YOU claimed it was under a short sale for $50k.. Please....
There are many reasons for a "short sale"....
Bottom line..If these people lost their home due to foreclosure that's pretty much their fault .
People lose homes all the time.
Here;'s how it works.....Consumer wants home. Consumer does not have cash to pay for home but has enough income to pay the home price off in installments..He goes to bank, asks for loan. Gets loan. Loan has terms to which the consumer agrees. One of those terms is if the consumer does not abide by the terms, the lender reserves the right to take the home in lieu of non-payment....
Lenders do not take away people's homes capriciously. That is what this guy is implying. And of course was successful in getting gullible people like you all in a lather.
Face palm.
The guy lied to make a protest.
 
The House isn't in Foreclosure. It's public records.

The family still lives in the house.

They owe about $60,000 left on thse half a million dollar house.

You guys are seriously going to argue that this guy is being honest?
the guy said it was a 500k house. the guy said they only owe a year's worth of tuition on it...let's take your 60k.....

if it is a short sell and they only owe the bank 60k as the guy said, then this means this guys parents would be selling their house for less than the 60k they owe the bank, let's say for 50k...that would be a short sell....selling the house for less than what you owe the bank....

Now, why in the world would a couple sell their 500k home for 50k?

HINT, they wouldn't.

they would sell it for 400k or maybe even 300k if they wanted to get rid of this 500k house quickly. and then out of that 300k they would pay the bank the 60k they owe and this would not be a short sell for the bank.

the guys lying avatar...or he just has no idea what he is talking about....

the parents owe the whole 500k or there abouts for the house and not just the 60k as the guy said or they would NOT HAVE TO HAVE IT UP FOR A SHORT SELL.

a short sell is basically one hair from foreclosure....

but your guys STORY of them only owing 60k on the500k house is simply impossible
First..he claimed it was taken in a foreclosure. It wasn't. Next, YOU claimed it was under a short sale for $50k.. Please....
There are many reasons for a "short sale"....
Bottom line..If these people lost their home due to foreclosure that's pretty much their fault .
People lose homes all the time.
Here;'s how it works.....Consumer wants home. Consumer does not have cash to pay for home but has enough income to pay the home price off in installments..He goes to bank, asks for loan. Gets loan. Loan has terms to which the consumer agrees. One of those terms is if the consumer does not abide by the terms, the lender reserves the right to take the home in lieu of non-payment....
Lenders do not take away people's homes capriciously. That is what this guy is implying. And of course was successful in getting gullible people like you all in a lather.
Face palm.
The guy lied to make a protest.
as i have stated MANY TIMES.... I couldn't give a hoot what this kid said....

but for political purposes, you seem to want to make up a story yourself, to discredit this guy.... have fun! I just don't ever get in to that kind of story making stuff....

you have no idea if what you are presuming above, about his family and their situation with their mortgage foreclosure or short sell is true....

so why rant on it?

if it hadn't been for a couple of conservatives posting this guys video, i wouldn't have even known he existed....

why get your panties in a wad over it, if you don't have the full facts and even when you have the full facts, why do you care so much about this one kid who claims to be a Socialist, says? were you never a kid or college student before? I thought I knew everything that needed to be known when i was that age!!! Boy was I foolish to think that....
 
no.

a short sell is an agreement with the bank, to sell your home for LESS THAN THE MORTGAGE you owe Yurt.

if they only owe 60k as the bloggers states, then that means the parents have to sell their home for LESS THAN THE MONEY OWED THE BANK....50k or so.

and that is simply not gonna happen on a 500k home....if the parents only owe the bank 60 k, then they can sell their home for 500k, 400k, 200k, or 100 k and IT STILL WOULD NOT BE a short sell, because they are selling the house for more than what they owe the bank.


a short sell is not the owners of the house selling the house for less than they want for it, a short sell is being forced to sell the house for less than what you owe the bank and getting the bank to agree to getting less than what you owe on your mortgage for it.

First of all I personally do not think there is any "short sale". I think the mom knew her son blundered and was trying to make up a way to save his lying ass....it is she who spoke to the blogger when he called and interviewed her on the subject.

That said- we DO KNOW that the house is not and never has been in foreclosure- nor are there any taxes owed on it.
no, we don't know that clever girl....we can't trust the blogger on that, since he got other info wrong.... that's the only ''safe'' way to approach it.

a short sell is keeping one out of foreclosure, barely....and that's only if the bank agrees to the short sell amount...

I doubt his mother would lie about the short sell, it's a pretty embarrassing situation with her husband being a doctor and all(if that is even true???)...if she was gonna lie for her son, why not just say yes, they are in the process of foreclosure, and not give the correction of being in a short sell situation with the bank and not foreclosure yet?

as far as i am concerned, if this blogger's facts are wrong on some things, then nothing that he has stated can be trusted....

how can we really try to ''make a story'' out of nothing? we shouldn't, not until we have trustworthy facts, in hand....imo.

What "info" did he, the blogger, get wrong?

She has every reason to lie- her sons video went viral and he was dishonest in it- I doubt this blogger is the only one to call. Disclosure information, along with tax information are a matter of public record. She could not lie about a public record. She can say she is negotiating a short sale- and not need to provide any evidence to support the claim. What makes the claim dubious, is that there exists no incentive, for the bank to be negotiating with a home owner, when there is so much equity still in the home.

It is a story, because this is a rich kid, who tried to make himself and his parents the victims of a fictitious personal crisis, as his reason to be out in this ginned up faux protest that is making national news.
 
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDn86_GKalA]Occupy Wall St - Law Student & Journalist Arrested for Civil Disobedience - YouTube[/ame]


Robert Stephens is upset his well educated hard working parents have lost their home to foreclosure. The videographer was summarily arrested for just being on a crowded street and daring to film our government in action.
Daily Kos: Occupy Wall Street: Protester and Journalist Arrested



Robert Stephens graduated from Carleton College (average cost: $42,942/year) in 2010 and now studies law at The George Washington University Law School (average cost: $70,449/year). His father has a Ph.D. and two master’s degrees; his mother also has a master’s degree. Only in America could a kid have been blessed with so much… and only in America could he still claim to be a victim. America’s capitalist society has apparently leveled a grave injustice against his family and Robert will not stand for it.

Stephens — who identifies his personal political philosophy as Bolivian socialism — made a trip to New York City this weekend to participate in the “Days of Rage” march on Wall Street. He was arrested Saturday when he refused police requests to get up and out of the way of traffic in the street.

In his emotional “rage,” Stephens told the sympathetic Socialist/Marxist/Anarchist crowd how an eeeeeevil Wall Street bank had taken his parents’ home away from them...

Attempts to contact Robert to find out exactly what grave injustices he and his family have suffered have gone unanswered.

....There’s just one problem: Robert Stephens’ story is (surprise!) completely bogus.

Phone inquiries into the county property records & taxpayer services office reveal that the Stephens family home is not and never has been in foreclosure, that property taxes had been paid in full this year and the remaining balance on their mortgage for the half-million dollar home is less than one year’s worth of tuition+fees at their son’s law school.

Video: Liberal trust-fund baby complains about America’s unjust capitalist system | Video | TheBlaze.com

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