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'The Modern Liberal believes in the supremacy of the state

Mark Levin is also a liar.

No. He speaks the truth. This explains why YOU now lie.

The truth literally seems to cause you physical pain.

The modern liberal DOES, clearly, believe in the supremacy of the State. This is why you idiots chafe so much at the RESTRAINTS against governmental action imposed by the Constitution.
 
In what ways exactly will a Progressive guard my individual liberties more completely than a Conservative?

In two ways. One, conservatives claim to oppose tyranny by the government. Liberals are the ones who actually do: when the government wants to draft your kid and send him to war, or violate the due-process clauses of the Bill of Rights, it's liberals, not conservatives, that oppose this sort of thing.

And two, liberals also want to protect you from private agencies -- employers, polluters, corporate power in general -- that threaten individual liberties. Conservatives do not.
 
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Naziism, by definition, demands central control of industry by the state.

It also requires Swastika symbols, and the one is no more central or properly defining than the other.

Communism, in practice, exercises central control of industry by the state.

Not quite, but since you're referring to the socialism that (in Marxist theory) precedes communism, I'll give it a pass.

Liberalism, in the USA, exerts expanding central control of industry by the state.

False. That is not a goal of liberals.

Conservatism, in the USA, strives to relax the central control of industry by the state.

False. That is not a goal of conservatives, although they sometimes pretend it is.
 
Nowhere is the perversion of Progressive ideology greater than in how they handle their greatest successes.

For example, when they win the call their nation the "Peoples Republic" (China, North Korea and Vietnam). Of course, the people in these "People Republics" are nothing but slaves to an all powerful government. Until the governments adopted Free Market reforms, people starved by the million.

In the USA, we are, or were, a genuine People's Republic, our Constitution limited the power and reach of the government. And what do Progressives seek to do here? To undermine the people freedoms in the one genuine Peoples Republic on the planet and have an all-powerful government that will control and direct every human activity, just like the Progressive Peoples Republic of China, Korea and Vietnam

It's perverted.

Don't you find that odd tho??

The same people who claim they're all liberal are the same people who beg the government to rule their lives.

Progressives and most democrats are not really liberal - they're actually authoritarian...

IMO, "progressive liberal" is an oxymoron...
 
Nowhere is the perversion of Progressive ideology greater than in how they handle their greatest successes.

For example, when they win the call their nation the "Peoples Republic" (China, North Korea and Vietnam). Of course, the people in these "People Republics" are nothing but slaves to an all powerful government. Until the governments adopted Free Market reforms, people starved by the million.

In the USA, we are, or were, a genuine People's Republic, our Constitution limited the power and reach of the government. And what do Progressives seek to do here? To undermine the people freedoms in the one genuine Peoples Republic on the planet and have an all-powerful government that will control and direct every human activity, just like the Progressive Peoples Republic of China, Korea and Vietnam

It's perverted.

Don't you find that odd tho??

The same people who claim they're all liberal are the same people who beg the government to rule their lives.

Progressives and most democrats are not really liberal - they're actually authoritarian...

IMO, "progressive liberal" is an oxymoron...

It's perverse. They support Obamacare yet claim our Founders were Liberals
 
'The Modern Liberal believes in the supremacy of the state

Mark Levin is also a liar.

No. He speaks the truth. This explains why YOU now lie.

The truth literally seems to cause you physical pain.

The modern liberal DOES, clearly, believe in the supremacy of the State. This is why you idiots chafe so much at the RESTRAINTS against governmental action imposed by the Constitution.

The modern progressive believes in supremacy of the federal government over the states.

The modern progressive would probably burn the Bill of Rights since it limits the federal governments power.

In reality a progressive is no different than a federalist.

Unfortunately many republicans swayed from the party over the last 30 or so years and are no better than their progressive buddies.

Ironically it's really the republicans that are liberal - at least ideologically speaking. This RINO shit is new given the historical position of the party.
 
It also requires Swastika symbols, and the one is no more central or properly defining than the other.

By this, the definition of 'comics' would require Batman in it somewhere. If you don't get this statement, I refer you to the watershed work by Scott McCloud "Understanding Comics".
 
Nowhere is the perversion of Progressive ideology greater than in how they handle their greatest successes.

For example, when they win the call their nation the "Peoples Republic" (China, North Korea and Vietnam). Of course, the people in these "People Republics" are nothing but slaves to an all powerful government. Until the governments adopted Free Market reforms, people starved by the million.

In the USA, we are, or were, a genuine People's Republic, our Constitution limited the power and reach of the government. And what do Progressives seek to do here? To undermine the people freedoms in the one genuine Peoples Republic on the planet and have an all-powerful government that will control and direct every human activity, just like the Progressive Peoples Republic of China, Korea and Vietnam

It's perverted.

Don't you find that odd tho??

The same people who claim they're all liberal are the same people who beg the government to rule their lives.

Progressives and most democrats are not really liberal - they're actually authoritarian...

IMO, "progressive liberal" is an oxymoron...

It's perverse. They support Obamacare yet claim our Founders were Liberals

Well our founders were not all liberal. The federalists certainly weren't.

The Democratic-Republicans were (Thomas Jefferson, James Madison etc)...

Ironically progressives continue to erroneously parrot "separation of church and state" as being part of the Bill of Rights but was nothing more than a quote from a Jefferson letter - who was a republican.
 
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I pre-ordered Levin's new book. It comes out (Nook) tomorrow. Looking forward to it.

Ameritopia. :thup:

The New York Slimes Book Review Section will be ignoring it no matter how many copies it sells!
 
Progressivism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Progressivism is an umbrella term for a political ideology advocating or favoring social, political, and economic reform or changes through the state. Progressivism is often viewed by its advocates to be in opposition to conservative or reactionary ideologies.
The Progressive Movement began in the late 19th and early 20th centuries in cities with settlement workers and reformers who were interested in helping those facing harsh conditions at home and at work. The reformers spoke out about the need for laws regulating tenement housing and child labor. They also called for better working conditions for women.

awww, how pretty
 
Liberals today simply choose to trust the government more than any other agency. That's where they lose the road. If the government is in charge of housing, then housing will be nicer, in better repair, safer than housing owned by an evil company or slumlord.

Unless you visit a government housing project.

The trust the liberals put in govenment is absolute and really child-like. If we just put the government in charge of everything it will be so much better.
 
Liberals today simply choose to trust the government more than any other agency. That's where they lose the road. If the government is in charge of housing, then housing will be nicer, in better repair, safer than housing owned by an evil company or slumlord.

Unless you visit a government housing project.

The trust the liberals put in govenment is absolute and really child-like. If we just put the government in charge of everything it will be so much better.
That philosophy works as long as three things exist.

1. You control government.

2. Other people's money holds out.

3. You don't have to live by the rules you make for others.
 
Your kidding right??

You guys hate it when your pointed out to be 'liberal'. There was several threads here recently about the fact that you all want to be called 'progressive' now :eusa_eh:

As for the environmental movement, its anti-capitalist and a joke! It has become a religion rather than a science.
Sure we need regulations, but MY GAWD... the red tape and beaurocratic BS you have to wade thru is flat ridiculous.

But you 'libs' love big gov't.

The progressive liberals I know are quite proud of the fact, as am I. If I were rw/pub/bag right now, I'd be hanging my head in shame. OTOH, if I were rw (etc), I probably wouldn't know just how dumb that really is.

The op is dumb, makes no sense, inflammatory for the sake of being inflammatory.

I am proud to call myself a liberal too. Nutters tried to make it a word describing weakness....you know.....limp-wristed, bleeding-heart, flaming.......but it does not stick. Nutters ought to be thankful that we liberals are rule of law type people. Otherwise, they'd not stand a chance.
Rule of law ...my ass! Obama appointing Czars! Obama circumventing the constitution. The man is acting like a fucking dictator!...damn the Constitution!...damn Congress!...I'll appoint people while Congress is in recess!
 
Liberals today simply choose to trust the government more than any other agency. That's where they lose the road. If the government is in charge of housing, then housing will be nicer, in better repair, safer than housing owned by an evil company or slumlord.

Unless you visit a government housing project.

The trust the liberals put in govenment is absolute and really child-like. If we just put the government in charge of everything it will be so much better.
That philosophy works as long as three things exist.

1. You control government.

2. Other people's money holds out.

3. You don't have to live by the rules you make for others.

That's why progressives are such little shits...

They implement rules then exempt themselves from them...

Obamacare is a fantastic example of that. Congress is exempt and those who play ball with Obama get waivers..
 
Liberals today simply choose to trust the government more than any other agency. That's where they lose the road. If the government is in charge of housing, then housing will be nicer, in better repair, safer than housing owned by an evil company or slumlord.

Unless you visit a government housing project.

The trust the liberals put in govenment is absolute and really child-like. If we just put the government in charge of everything it will be so much better.
That philosophy works as long as three things exist.

1. You control government.

2. Other people's money holds out.

3. You don't have to live by the rules you make for others.

That's why progressives are such little shits...

They implement rules then exempt themselves from them...

Obamacare is a fantastic example of that. Congress is exempt and those who play ball with Obama get waivers..
Yep. See my signature. Boncher's Maxim applies. Most honest people try to minimize it though.
 
That philosophy works as long as three things exist.

1. You control government.

2. Other people's money holds out.

3. You don't have to live by the rules you make for others.

That's why progressives are such little shits...

They implement rules then exempt themselves from them...

Obamacare is a fantastic example of that. Congress is exempt and those who play ball with Obama get waivers..
Yep. See my signature. Boncher's Maxim applies. Most honest people try to minimize it though.

Nancy Pelosi is the worst....

That bitch walks around like she knows whats best for everyone - like she's God.

"You need to pass the bill to see whats in it."

She acted like she's giving mankind a fucking present when she said that...

That bitch acts like shes superior to 299,999,999 million people and she knows whats best and whats best is government intervention in our lives...

What the fuck is the point of growing up and becoming an adult if you're going to be treated like a child -- oh and will have to work hard and pay government to treat you like a child.

The progressive mindset is an insult to every classical liberal..... Oh and then these assholes have the audacity to paint themselves as "liberal."

They're not liberal they're authoritarian nuts that want to dictate outcomes.
 
China, N. Korea are Military Dictatorships. Our representative democracy is a liberal/progressive idea. It is the pseudo-conservative movenment that is moving toward a militaristic statist type governement in this country.



Hos does a relaxation of government regulation and expansion of personal freedom equal a move toward a militaristic statist type of government?

I don't know what a pseudo-Conservative is. Conservatism calls for the least government that can do the job, a relaxation of regulations and restricting of the reach of government.
 
China, N. Korea are Military Dictatorships. Our representative democracy is a liberal/progressive idea. It is the pseudo-conservative movenment that is moving toward a militaristic statist type governement in this country.

BlindPoo's post was trite nonsense.

China, N. Korea are Military Dictatorships.

True.

Our representative democracy is a liberal/progressive idea.

False.

It is the pseudo-conservative movenment [sic]that is moving toward a militaristic statist type governement [sic] in this country.

False.

I have no idea what the fuck BlindPoo intends to be discussing when he talks about pseudo conservatives. Sounds like the premise of a good old fashioned straw man.

But the reality is that it is the modern American "liberal" who is the STATIST.

Actual conservatives want nothing to do with a militaristic government -- much less a Statist one.



I am noticing more and more in the posts of those that claim to be Liberals that they are opposing the ideas and goals of Liberalism. In addition to this, they are ascribing those ideas and goals to Conservatism.

They have no idea what they are thinking and no idea what their leaders are doing.

This, in and of itself, is the triumph of the modern Liberal. While he strives unceasingly to expand government control, reduce personal freedom and control individual thought and action, he has been taught that he is doing the opposite.

It's an amazing blindness that afflicts Liberals.
 
In what ways exactly will a Progressive guard my individual liberties more completely than a Conservative?

In two ways. One, conservatives claim to oppose tyranny by the government. Liberals are the ones who actually do: when the government wants to draft your kid and send him to war, or violate the due-process clauses of the Bill of Rights, it's liberals, not conservatives, that oppose this sort of thing.

And two, liberals also want to protect you from private agencies -- employers, polluters, corporate power in general -- that threaten individual liberties. Conservatives do not.



When was the last draft?

Conservatives do as much as is needed. Who is there to protect private agencies? Who determines which private agencies are the offending ones? When does protection of one group become persecution of another?

Do the private agencies you refer to have no rights? Can Boeing not build and staff a factory in any state it wishes? Who was protecting the citizens of the state in which Boeing was trying to expand when the government shut them down?

You play a dangerous and at the same time, cowardly game when you abandon all reason, all responsibility and all initiative to an all powerful government.

This is the game of Liberalism.
 

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