Progressive America

[Robert]

The whole point of the word "progressive" is to stay away from the word "liberal", which is trashed. But it's the same bucket of vomit. Take money from whites, give it to illegal aliens from Mexico.

The names keep changing but the agenda against our nation remains the same.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Does this not make you sick? Hillary said she was one, so does Obama.
YouTube - Matt Spalding on Progressivism's Assault on America's Founding
European socialism, brought to you buy, berry,hillary,harry and nancy. Enjoy it i you voted for it so why not enjoy it, we will beat your asses in 2012 for it though, so carry on you dumb fucks.

Spalding provides a wonderful example of conservtive 'thinking' by suggesting ALL Progressives hold four truths in common and these truths are all flawed, in his opinion.

Conservative rhetoric pitting Americans v. Americans based on an opinion might fool some of the people all of the time, but the vast majority of Americans are not so easily fooled.

The Progressive Movement in America was a reaction to social and economic conditions and first become a movement at the end of the 19th Century. Anyone who has taken a course in US history gets it.

In America the political pendulum is in constant motion; suggesting a political victory by one side or another 18 months in advance of an election is an example of ignorance (of our history) on a grand scale.

 

[Cal]

Does this not make you sick? Hillary said she was one, so does Obama.
YouTube - Matt Spalding on Progressivism's Assault on America's Founding
European socialism, brought to you buy, berry,hillary,harry and nancy. Enjoy it i you voted for it so why not enjoy it, we will beat your asses in 2012 for it though, so carry on you dumb fucks.

The Heritage foundation.. Now that's a reliable source.

 

[Cal]

The whole point of the word "progressive" is to stay away from the word "liberal", which is trashed. But it's the same bucket of vomit. Take money from whites, give it to illegal aliens from Mexico.

The names keep changing but the agenda against our nation remains the same.

Nope.. I'm proud to be a Liberal..

 

[Avorysuds]

Gut military and roll back the Bus tax cuts. However, dumbass Cons think the the EPA and PP caused this crisis.

Fucking delusional.

Lol?

 

[William Joyce]

The whole point of the word "progressive" is to stay away from the word "liberal", which is trashed. But it's the same bucket of vomit. Take money from whites, give it to illegal aliens from Mexico.

The names keep changing but the agenda against our nation remains the same.

Nope.. I'm proud to be a Liberal..

In that Kennedy quote, who is the "their" in "their health", "their housing", "their jobs"...?

 

[William Joyce]

'Cause I'll tell you right now. When Ted Fucking Kennedy says "welfare of the people", he doesn't mean my people. He doesn't mean my family. Or the people in my community. When he says civil rights, he doesn't mean mine. He does not care about my right to free speech. My right to carry arms. My right to religion. My right to keep the money I earn.

When he says jobs, housing, schools...

He means BLACKS. He means ILLEGALS. He means HISPANICS, Jews, Asians.

He means everyone BUT whites... who happen not to be ultra-rich Boston Brahmins.

The "stalemate" he refers to is me holding on to my wallet. When it's "broken", he gets in there with his fat paw to scrape it clean and hand it to Juan and Tyrone.

 

[xsited1]

The whole point of the word "progressive" is to stay away from the word "liberal", which is trashed. But it's the same bucket of vomit. Take money from whites, give it to illegal aliens from Mexico.

The names keep changing but the agenda against our nation remains the same.

Nope.. I'm proud to be a Liberal..

Ted Kennedy was one of the most disgusting and cruel politicians America has ever known. He represented everything that was wrong with liberalism.

 

[idb]

The names keep changing but the agenda against our nation remains the same.

Nope.. I'm proud to be a Liberal..

Ted Kennedy was one of the most disgusting and cruel politicians America has ever known. He represented everything that was wrong with liberalism.

But...he had such a kind face...

 

[mudwhistle]

Gut military and roll back the Bus tax cuts. However, dumbass Cons think the the EPA and PP caused this crisis.

Fucking delusional.

Gut the military????

Get us the fuck out of the Middle East first, then think about gutting the military.

The EPA makes running the military massively more expensive. It also makes it much more expensive to air-condition your home.

What excuse did they use to initiate the EPA? We had a hole in the ozone. One of the biggest shams ever perpetrated on America, next to Global Warming.

Only years later we find out the hole in the ozone was caused by extreme cold at the poles, not chlorofluorocarbons.

 

[mudwhistle]

The whole point of the word "progressive" is to stay away from the word "liberal", which is trashed. But it's the same bucket of vomit. Take money from whites, give it to illegal aliens from Mexico.

The names keep changing but the agenda against our nation remains the same.

Nope.. I'm proud to be a Liberal..

Teddy Kennedy.

An insufferable drunk. I've been reading his ex-wife's biography.

One despicable human being.

 

[Agit8r]

Gut military and roll back the Bus tax cuts. However, dumbass Cons think the the EPA and PP caused this crisis.

Fucking delusional.

Gut the military????

Get us the fuck out of the Middle East first, then think about gutting the military.

The EPA makes running the military massively more expensive. It also makes it much more expensive to air-condition your home.

What excuse did they use to initiate the EPA? We had a hole in the ozone. One of the biggest shams ever perpetrated on America, next to Global Warming.

Only years later we find out the hole in the ozone was caused by extreme cold at the poles, not chlorofluorocarbons.

The Ozone Hole was discovered in the late 70's, and CFC's were banned over a decade late. the EPA was set up in the early 70's by Richard Nixon to protect air and water. so timeline is a little off there

 

[jeffrockit]

Gut military and roll back the Bus tax cuts. However, dumbass Cons think the the EPA and PP caused this crisis.

Fucking delusional.

Which still wont come close to touching the deficit. The big 3 Medicare, Medicaid and SS are the biggest factors in the deficit. Until we get serious about reworking those programs, we won't begin to reduce the deficit.

You have been misinformed. Social Security is NOT broke....not even remotely broke, actually.

Social Security has a $2.7 trillion dollar cash position.

Of course their cash position is in the form of government bonds (money SS lent to the Feds over the last 30 years) , but they are as secure as the other 12 Trillion in bonds that the US government owes the rest of the world.

In order for social security to be in trouble, every other bond holder that is holding US T-bills would ALSO have to be in trouble.

That would mean that just every bank, pension fund, and large insurance company in the world would be in trouble, too as they hold the same debt instruments that the Social Security funds holds as collatoral

Anybody here worried that the USA is going to renege on Social Security has to also assume that the FED is about to renege on the money it owes to the world's most powerful moneybags.

What apparently many of you do not quite yet get is that the FEDERAL debt is being counted as ASSETS in some of the largest private and public banks in the world.

Unless the FED is considering reneging ONLY on the DEBT it owes the American workers who paid into that social security fund, of course. And I rather doubt they're prepared to do that.


Medicade and Medicare are in trouble.

And most of that trouble comes to it because the cost of HC rises faster than the people's ability to be taxed to pay for it.

The solution in that case is to do something REAL to keep the cost of HC down.

I doubt we can tax ourselves out of that problem.

By throwning more money at the problem of rising HC expenses, we'd be causing still more HC icost ncreases.

Quite the dilemma, huh?

Sooner or later we might find the gravitas to really focus in the root cause of the problem.

The market really cannot fix that problem all by itself.

As should be obvious to those of you who have been paying attention to rising HC cost for the last 40 years or so.

So the CBO, where I got my info from, is misinformed on SS???
"A report from the Congressional Budget Office shows that for the first time in 25 years, Social Security is taking in less in taxes than it is spending on benefits."
Don't know about your thought process but mine tell me that if you spend more than you receive, you are in the hole. Don't like the term "broke"...find one you do like that represents the facts on SS. All I can base my opinion on is facts.

 

[grunt11b]

Hillary and Obama are both corporate, globalist stooges.

How does that make them progressive?

Hillary in her own words, Obama in his actions.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2oOoCdFblc]YouTube - YouTube Debate: Hillary - Are You a Liberal?[/ame]

 

[auditor0007]

The names keep changing but the agenda against our nation remains the same.

Nope.. I'm proud to be a Liberal..

Teddy Kennedy.

An insufferable drunk. I've been reading his ex-wife's biography.

One despicable human being.

Kennedy was not despicable. He was a man with many demons.