Pro-Trump states most affected by his health care decision

[OldLady]

They voted for Trump based on the representation that obamacare would be dismantled.

I do seem to recall the promise of a "better" plan that would be cheaper and insure everyone. Do you remember that part of it, too? Repubs had better get cracking on that part, because once Obamacare implodes, the people won't like it if there is nothing to take its place. So far, everything the Repubs have offered insures less people (practically if not theoretically due to the major anticipated hikes in premiums for certain groups that they can't afford to pay) and costs more.

Nothing will be done to repair our healthcare system as long as the public does what it does now; nothing but vote and whine/post.

I have long said that healthcare costs are the actual problem, that keeping people healthy and alive is a money making industry is why. Capitalism has never been big on moral or ethical restraints. If we want good, affordable healthcare for all, we have to acquiesce to a socialist government run system that is not out to get rich on my illness. There is a cost--the innovations and R&R that are so front and center in American healthcare industry will be stifled somewhat. To me, it is a fair trade in order to have cradle to grave healthcare for all, rich or poor.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

They voted for Trump based on the representation that obamacare would be dismantled.

I do seem to recall the promise of a "better" plan that would be cheaper and insure everyone. Do you remember that part of it, too? Repubs had better get cracking on that part, because once Obamacare implodes, the people won't like it if there is nothing to take its place. So far, everything the Repubs have offered insures less people (practically if not theoretically due to the major anticipated hikes in premiums for certain groups that they can't afford to pay) and costs more.

Any increase in premiums or decrease in coverage is now owned by Trump. He has no one else to blame.

But I'm sure he doesn't care whatsoever.

When did the Dems ever blame Obama?

 

[WillowTree]

They voted for Trump based on the representation that obamacare would be dismantled.

I do seem to recall the promise of a "better" plan that would be cheaper and insure everyone. Do you remember that part of it, too? Repubs had better get cracking on that part, because once Obamacare implodes, the people won't like it if there is nothing to take its place. So far, everything the Repubs have offered insures less people (practically if not theoretically due to the major anticipated hikes in premiums for certain groups that they can't afford to pay) and costs more.

Nothing will be done to repair our healthcare system as long as the public does what it does now; nothing but vote and whine/post.

I have long said that healthcare costs are the actual problem, that keeping people healthy and alive is a money making industry is why. Capitalism has never been big on moral or ethical restraints. If we want good, affordable healthcare for all, we have to acquiesce to a socialist government run system that is not out to get rich on my illness. There is a cost--the innovations and R&R that are so front and center in American healthcare industry will be stifled somewhat. To me, it is a fair trade in order to have cradle to grave healthcare for all, rich or poor.

It will work if everyone chips in to pay for it and we are not paying for every illegal interloper across the globe!

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Pro-Trump states most affected by his health care decision"

Further confirmation of the stupidity of Trump voters.

Indeed, most of Trump’s wrongheaded agenda is harmful to low income white voters in red states – Trump’s tax ‘plan’ the most recent example.

 

[whitehall]

How were they "helped" under Obamacare? Everyone knows, with the possible exception of the crazy angry incoherent left, that Obamacare is imploding and while the badly written law subsidizes insurance corporations to the tune of several billion per year the ordinary middle class folks have seen their premiums double and the deductible out of sight and unreachable except in catastrophic situations. Trump's reasonable change to the law will most likely be an improvement to everyone including "his states" but in the twisted logic of the left, good news is is always bad news during a republican administration.

 

[xotoxi]

They voted for Trump based on the representation that obamacare would be dismantled.

I do seem to recall the promise of a "better" plan that would be cheaper and insure everyone. Do you remember that part of it, too? Repubs had better get cracking on that part, because once Obamacare implodes, the people won't like it if there is nothing to take its place. So far, everything the Repubs have offered insures less people (practically if not theoretically due to the major anticipated hikes in premiums for certain groups that they can't afford to pay) and costs more.

Any increase in premiums or decrease in coverage is now owned by Trump. He has no one else to blame.

But I'm sure he doesn't care whatsoever.

When did the Dems ever blame Obama?

I don't understand your question.

All I'm saying is that if Obamacare was managed as intended and it failed, everyone could blame Obama and the democrats.

Now that Trump as single-handedly dismantled it, only HE (not Obama, the democrats, or the republicans) is to blame if it backfires.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

They voted for Trump based on the representation that obamacare would be dismantled.

I do seem to recall the promise of a "better" plan that would be cheaper and insure everyone. Do you remember that part of it, too? Repubs had better get cracking on that part, because once Obamacare implodes, the people won't like it if there is nothing to take its place. So far, everything the Repubs have offered insures less people (practically if not theoretically due to the major anticipated hikes in premiums for certain groups that they can't afford to pay) and costs more.

Any increase in premiums or decrease in coverage is now owned by Trump. He has no one else to blame.

But I'm sure he doesn't care whatsoever.

When did the Dems ever blame Obama?

I don't understand your question.

All I'm saying is that if Obamacare was managed as intended and it failed, everyone could blame Obama and the democrats.

Now that Trump as single-handedly dismantled it, only HE (not Obama, the democrats, or the republicans) is to blame if it backfires.

The ACA has already failed and Trump is trying to fix it. But the Dems never blamed Obama when it was failing under him.

 

[Aldo Raine]

Pro-Trump states most affected by his health care decision

President Donald Trump's decision to end a provision of the Affordable Care Act that was benefiting roughly 6 million Americans helps fulfill a campaign promise, but it also risks harming some of the very people who helped him win the presidency.

Nearly 70 percent of those benefiting from the so-called cost-sharing subsidies live in states Trump won last November, according to an analysis by The Associated Press. The number underscores the political risk for Trump and his party, which could end up owning the blame for increased costs and chaos in the insurance marketplace.

The subsidies are paid to insurers by the federal government to help lower consumers' deductibles and co-pays. People who benefit will continue receiving the discounts because insurers are obligated by law to provide them. But to make up for the lost federal funding, health insurers will have to raise premiums substantially, potentially putting coverage out of reach for many consumers.

Some insurers may decide to bail out of markets altogether.

"I woke up, really, in horror," said Alice Thompson, 62, an environmental consultant from the Milwaukee area who purchases insurance on Wisconsin's federally run health insurance exchange.

Thompson, who spoke with reporters on a call organized by a health care advocacy group, said she expects to pay 30 percent to 50 percent more per year for her monthly premium, potentially more than her mortgage payment. Officials in Wisconsin, a state that went for a Republican presidential candidate for the first time in decades last fall, assumed the federal subsidy would end when they approved premium rate increases averaging 36 percent for the coming year.

Pro-Trump states most affected by his health care decision

Lol, right up the ass!!! The poorest fucked up states in this country are the ones that support Trump but now will be fucked right up the ass.

They don't know it yet, but they will shirley find out that Fox lied to them AGAIN

And their Orange God.

 

[Aldo Raine]

The democratic party is nothing but servants of the corporate donor class. Just like the "other" party.

End thread!

 

[ScienceRocks]

They voted for Trump based on the representation that obamacare would be dismantled.

Nonsense, you are trying to rewrite history.

They voted for trump cuz he promised them perfect beautiful health care that would cost almost nothing AND it would be EASY. No cuts to ANYTHING

They are so stupid they took his word for it and are now going to get fucked in the ass. This is the problem with having a 1st grade education that retarded southerns typically have...They don't know how to think outside of calling people names and wearing the flag.

 

[Reasonable]

 

[Reasonable]

Something had to be done the ACA was a terrible bill and it has to go away. I have a neighbor that had to have a temporary healthcare plan because the company his wife works for had sold.

There was a two month break in coverage of all spouses. He went on to Obama care thinking he could get a stop gap plan. You know the kind of short term plan Obama promised would be included in the ACA... not so...another lie from Obama.

He signed an executive order stopping the short term stop gap plans forcing people to buy into the ACA as if they were going to stay on for a long time costing hundreds of dollars a month. It cost him $1400 for just two months of coverage. A pure rip off. The plan didn't cover his meds either...costing him $300 more.

The people defending the ACA in the media and elsewhere are liars and pure political scumbags! It's not working and it will fail and it is hurting people right now!

 

[nat4900]

Well, we have seen that logic and reason has not swayed Trump cult members....perhaps a kick in the ass and a dent to their wallets may finally break the spell.......

Notice that Trump NEVER, EVER had a plan to "replace" the ACA.....