Pro-Life Judges From McCain?

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  1. Orange_Juice
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    I wonder if a McCain presidency would criminalize abortions across much of the nation? Doctors, women, nurses being thrown in jail, women going to emeergency rooms with coathangers stuck in them, all while rich little girls have the family doctor take care of it.
     
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    these things dont happen in a vacuum. Mccain could not get elected without wide support from like minded Americans. if the idea of restricted abortion bothers you then perhaps you should consider the wide range of opinions on the subject besides your own.
     
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    Further it is still legal and would not change just because the President wants it to, or did Bush appointing judges suddenly cause abortion to stop and women to die with coathangers in them? A judge has to be approved by the Senate last I checked, as well.

    More fear mongering from the left.
     
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    Judges are free to rule as they p[lease once they lie their way through Senate confimation. The Conservatives have been promised to deliver conservative judges and that means anti-abortion judges
     
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    OJ, judges don't criminalize anything... legislatures do. And you might be surprised to learn that abortion after the first trimester is a crime in many states. Shocked?
     
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    Great post!

     
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    No one is certain why crime rates have plummeted in the United States over the last decade. But that fact has not prevented politicians from gleefully taking credit for the downturn, or academics from ruminating endlessly on its causes.

    The newest theory about why crime is down, however, put forward in a report by two highly regarded economists, is drawing both outrage and intense debate -- even before the full report has been published or subjected to peer review.

    In the report, Dr. John J. Donohue 3d of Stanford Law School and Dr. Steven D. Levitt of the University of Chicago contend that a large share of the drop in crime in the 1990's -- perhaps as much as half -- can be attributed to the sharp increase in abortions after the Supreme Court ruling in Roe v. Wade in 1973.

    Fewer crimes are being committed now, the researchers say, because many of the children who might have grown up to commit those crimes were never born. Within a few years of the Roe v. Wade decision, which established a constitutional right to abortion, up to a quarter of pregnancies ended in abortion, statistics show.

    Dr. Donohue and Dr. Levitt base their thesis on economic analyses of crime rates from 1985 to 1997, examined as a function of abortion rates two decades before.

    The timing of the decline in crime, they found, coincided with the period when children born shortly after the Roe v. Wade decision would be reaching the late teen-age years -- the peak ages for criminal activity.

    States that were the first to legalize abortion, Dr. Donohue and Dr. Levitt found, including New York, Washington, Alaska and Hawaii, were also the first to experience a decrease in crime. For example, in states that legalized abortion in 1969 or 1970, the researchers found, the cumulative decrease in crime from 1982 to 1997 was greater than for the rest of the nation. The decrease in murder was 16.2 percent greater, the decrease in violent crime over all was 34.4 percent greater, and the decrease in property crime was 35.3 percent greater.

    Also, states with the highest abortion rates, the researchers found, had larger reductions in crime than states with low abortion rates.

    Linking Drop in Crime to Rise in Abortion - New York Times
     
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    Most people these days take Roe v. Wade, and a woman's right to choose for granted.

    If republicans ever get their wet dream come true, and overturn Roe, you can count on a veto proof Democratic senate and a 100 seat Dem house majority for decades to come.
     
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    LOL, ya sure thing. I am still waiting to hear how Judges appointed by a President McCain can change law. Abortion is legal. Until such time as a law is written that passes the Supreme Court muster it will REMAIN legal. And no Judge appointed by McCain can change that.

    Fear mongering, you turds do it all the time. What is the next "problem" you will be telling us about? Another Coup maybe? Perhaps McCain will kick people off welfare? Come on lets hear some more of your looney Toons fear mongering antics.
     

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