snjmom
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Do you believe in a man's right to choose what he does and control his own body, or do you believe your right to do as you will does not extend to harming others?
I wish mostly that the abortion issue had been left to the states or local communities. But if it MUST be a federal issue, then I wish for strict enforcement of Roe v Wade which, if its intent was strictly enforced, would be a reasonable compromise. The all or nothing arguments accomplish little more than hard feelings in both the pro choice and pro life camps.
In my opinion, so long as I have ability to choose, I have an unalienable right to do whatever I wish with my body until participation by somebody else is required. My rights end at the point somebody else is required to contribute or participate.
Do you believe in a man's right to choose what he does and control his own body, or do you believe your right to do as you will does not extend to harming others?
This is a false choice because it is badly worded, I think.
One can certainly have the right to control one's own body without also therefore having the right to violate other's.
One's right to swing one's fist is absolute up to the point it hits another person.
Sure is. Does do a good job of exposing the indefensible position many "pro Choicers" hold. It's all about choice to them, just don't mention that many times, the fetus aborted could have been a viable life outside the womb, and had NO CHOICE at all.
Cesarean section what ever it is out, sit it on the table and let it live. No abortion required. If it does not "live" then it is not a viable life.
Science does not agree. Babies Taken out of the womb Many Many weeks early can, and do survive. Yes they require help to do so, but then who are we do deny them that? Take it out and sit it on the table and if it lives it is viable? Really? I disagree, I think if it can be taken from the womb and survive with Medical Care, it was viable. Using your logic Human Beings are not viable until the are old enough to feed themselves. Set a 1 year old on a table and leave them, and they are going to die.
Me personally I have always maintained I support the right to an Abortion in most cases. It is only when I see it abused and used as nothing more than belated Birth control for Irresponsibility chicks, that I have a problem with it.
However that does not keep me from seeing the Hypocrisy of the "pro Choice" people. Often times the same lefties who support your right to an Abortion on the basis of Freedom of Choice. Would be more than happy to tell you, you can not eat fatty foods, and you can not own a gun. Or tell you, it is ok that Union give you no choice about paying dues.
Abortion is always going to be a very Polarizing subject, that is for sure.
In a perfect world it would only be used in extreme cases, and not like it is the VAST MAJORITY of the time in the US. The Vast Majority of Abortions in this country are not carried out because there is some risk to the mother, or Birth Defects to the baby. They are carried out because someone fucked, was not careful and got pregnant, and now they do not want to live with the consequences of the CHOICES they made.
Nope. It's a simple matter of whether or not the right to do as you will with you body extends to acts which harm another or not.This is a trick question, isn't it?
So, does my right to do as I will with my body include harming another? Or are suicide bombings (it is, after all, my body i strap the bomb to), rape (after all, I'm just exercising my right to use my body as i will [overpowering you] just as you do the same with your own body [physically resist or go along with it]), and punching you in the face (moving my body through space) wrong because they cause harm another?
You can't have it both ways. Either my right to do as I will with and to my own body extends to acts which cause harm to another or it does not.
Do I have the right to remove a parasite from my body, such as a leach? One organism being leached off of by anither has the right to remove said organism, don't they? Do you have the right not to be touched by another, let alone be fed off of?
If we are going to give a fetus full rights and privilages than it must also be subjected to them as well. There is no such thing as "Super rights" and that is what we are ascribing to the fetus.
Do I have the right to remove a parasite from my body, such as a leach? One organism being leached off of by anither has the right to remove said organism, don't they? Do you have the right not to be touched by another, let alone be fed off of?
If we are going to give a fetus full rights and privilages than it must also be subjected to them as well. There is no such thing as "Super rights" and that is what we are ascribing to the fetus.
The problem is - a typical parasite is not usually invited into the body. In the MAJORITY of cases, women consent to the activity the ends up with a child being grown inside her body. If you're gonna have sex, you better be responsible enough to deal with what may result - a new life, dependent, baby, child, etc.
Why is it ok for a woman to want to control her body AFTER the fact but not be in control and be responsible DURING the act of procreation?
No parasite is invited into the body, the poll said rape didn't it?
Nope. It's a simple matter of whether or not the right to do as you will with you body extends to acts which harm another or not.This is a trick question, isn't it?
So, does my right to do as I will with my body include harming another? Or are suicide bombings (it is, after all, my body i strap the bomb to), rape (after all, I'm just exercising my right to use my body as i will [overpowering you] just as you do the same with your own body [physically resist or go along with it]), and punching you in the face (moving my body through space) wrong because they cause harm another?
You can't have it both ways. Either my right to do as I will with and to my own body extends to acts which cause harm to another or it does not.
Do I have the right to remove a parasite from my body, such as a leach?
If we are going to give a fetus full rights and privilages than it must also be subjected to them as well. There is no such thing as "Super rights"
Nope. It's a simple matter of whether or not the right to do as you will with you body extends to acts which harm another or not.
So, does my right to do as I will with my body include harming another? Or are suicide bombings (it is, after all, my body i strap the bomb to), rape (after all, I'm just exercising my right to use my body as i will [overpowering you] just as you do the same with your own body [physically resist or go along with it]), and punching you in the face (moving my body through space) wrong because they cause harm another?
You can't have it both ways. Either my right to do as I will with and to my own body extends to acts which cause harm to another or it does not.
Do I have the right to remove a parasite from my body, such as a leach?
So there's no difference between a leech and another human being?
You're a leech?
Really?If we are going to give a fetus full rights and privilages than it must also be subjected to them as well. There is no such thing as "Super rights"
But there is a right to one's life, which outweighs your right to not have stretch marks
Babies continue to be parasites after they are born using this sick analogy. After all, they cannot survive except by attaching themselves to an adult who sees to their every need.Do I have the right to remove a parasite from my body, such as a leach? One organism being leached off of by anither has the right to remove said organism, don't they? Do you have the right not to be touched by another, let alone be fed off of?
If we are going to give a fetus full rights and privilages than it must also be subjected to them as well. There is no such thing as "Super rights" and that is what we are ascribing to the fetus.
The problem is - a typical parasite is not usually invited into the body. In the MAJORITY of cases, women consent to the activity the ends up with a child being grown inside her body. If you're gonna have sex, you better be responsible enough to deal with what may result - a new life, dependent, baby, child, etc.
Why is it ok for a woman to want to control her body AFTER the fact but not be in control and be responsible DURING the act of procreation?
Dear JB: the DIFFERENCE is that "legally" people have agreed that once a baby is born then human rights apply
Nobody brought religion into it until you did right now.then that issue invokes RELIGIOUS beliefs