Pressure Mounting on the Romneys to Release More Tax Records

[Too Tall]

If there is nothing he's hiding then there is nothing to attack him for....the Romneys don't seem especially bright.

Brighter then obamaturd.

I don't see it. It's a shame the Republicans couldn't come up with a better candidate.

But you are deflecting.

Two deflections from you and you make a deflection accusation. Look in the mirror for deflections.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

What a bunch of whinny ass liberals, when Romeny hires lawyers and pays millions of dollars to keep those documents secret like obama has done many times you'll have something to bitch about.

 

[Wry Catcher]

As ought to be evident to all, FACTS appear to be much less important to electoral outcomes than the PERCEPTION of the facts.

Now I do not doubt that Romney did nothing wrong when it comes to having paid his taxes.

So why, given these charges, is Romeny refusing to show the American people how much he paid over the last decade?

I think we all understand why he refuses.

Because what we would discover is that Romeny paid a very small percentage of his income. Like a percentage much much lower than the average working person in the USA.

And THAT would be percieved as being unfair, even if Romeny's tax returns were perfectly legal.

After all, Romney's complaint is that the very welathy pay way too high a percentage in taxes.

But it is very likely that if we saw what HE PAID, we would discover that he paid a very low percentage of his income.

In other words the basic thrust of his complaint about taxes would prove to be (at least in HIS case) total bullshit.

THAT is why Romney hesitates to END this story.

Because it would end when Romeny was proven to be just another whining rich boy who enjoys enormous tax breaks that most people cannot enjoy.

That is where I am. I have no doubt that Romney didn't do anything illegal.

From: Ann Romney on tax returns: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/ann-romney-tax-returns-nothing-hiding-154632291.html

If the Romney's vast assets are in a "blind trust" and Mrs Romney doesn't know what or where it is invested, how could she say they're not hiding anything? If she doesn't know where the money is, how do we know what it is funding?

It might be in foreign banks, loaning money to fund foreign business - competing with our own. Or, it might be in rare paintings, or automobiles or any number of instruments outside our borders funding any manner of things not in our nations best interest.

And why were these assets placed in a blind trust for over a decade? One would presume someone who tauts their business acuity would be better able to invest their assets than those who operate said blind trust.

I'm sure none of the investments were illegal, but extralegal or furtive is a possibility. Otherwise why hide the great wealth he is so proud to have built?

 

[Too Tall]

I am glad someone mentioned tax return.

David Cay Johnston reports in the New York Times on some of the missing information on the forms released by Ms. Heinz Kerry:

One line in the Form 1040 that was released indicated she had a job for which $2,230 in taxes were withheld from her paycheck, but gave no details. A spokesman for the Kerry campaign said this income was related to an investment she had with a limited liability corporation, although he would not provide any more information.

Tax documents that would indicate if Ms. Heinz Kerry has offshore accounts were withheld, as were the schedules detailing her charitable deductions, interest expenses and the nature of the $14,412 in capital gains she reported. But Paul Bschorr, a lawyer for Ms. Heinz Kerry, said Friday that none of her personal investment accounts or accounts controlled by her family trust are deposited outside the United States, a step some wealthy American use to defer or escape taxes.

No information was provided about how much income was earned by trusts of which she is the beneficiary. If the trusts are as large as reported - and the Kerry campaign has not challenged the billion dollar estimate - then even a modest 5 percent return would have generated $50 million of income, 10 times what was on the two pages released by Ms. Heinz Kerry. A statement released by the Kerry campaign noted that income taxes are paid directly by the Heinz family trust, in addition to taxes that Ms. Heinz Kerry pays.

 

[Too Tall]

Ann Romney lied. She said

"We have been very transparent to what's legally required of us. But the more we release, the more we get attacked, the more we get questioned, the more we get pushed....

That's two lies.

They have yet to release what they said they would. So far, all we have is part of one year.
Second lie, is they have not been attacked about what little they have released.

Fact is, people know they are lying, just as Ryan is lying. Real Americans would not do that.

I've been enjoying his flip-flopping the past few days about Medicare.

First, he and Ryan are different. Then, they're the same and he agrees with Ryan. Today, with that disastrous white board, he said he would not change Medicare, later today he said that he and Ryan have the exact same plan.

When is he gonna light on just one position?

Never.

If there is one thing we can count on its what his own head of staff said - Etch A Sketch. He's wishy washy and will fall over in whichever direction he's pushed.

What a disaster he would be and Americans know it.

Not very bright of you to make incorrect statements. Or could it be that YOU are the liar?

Mitt and Ann Romney have released their complete 2010 tax return and an estimate of their 2011 return. (A full copy of their final 2011 return will be made public as soon as it is filed in the upcoming weeks). The Romneys have provided extensive information about their personal finances, with several hundred pages of tax returns now made public.

Introduction | Mitt Romney for President

 

[Wry Catcher]

While it is not illegal to lie, it is illegal to lie under oath. If Gov. Romney wants to put and end to all of this 'nonsense', let him put his assertions on the record under oath and under penalty of perjury.

 

[Seawytch]

I am glad someone mentioned tax return.

David Cay Johnston reports in the New York Times on some of the missing information on the forms released by Ms. Heinz Kerry:

One line in the Form 1040 that was released indicated she had a job for which $2,230 in taxes were withheld from her paycheck, but gave no details. A spokesman for the Kerry campaign said this income was related to an investment she had with a limited liability corporation, although he would not provide any more information.

Tax documents that would indicate if Ms. Heinz Kerry has offshore accounts were withheld, as were the schedules detailing her charitable deductions, interest expenses and the nature of the $14,412 in capital gains she reported. But Paul Bschorr, a lawyer for Ms. Heinz Kerry, said Friday that none of her personal investment accounts or accounts controlled by her family trust are deposited outside the United States, a step some wealthy American use to defer or escape taxes.

No information was provided about how much income was earned by trusts of which she is the beneficiary. If the trusts are as large as reported - and the Kerry campaign has not challenged the billion dollar estimate - then even a modest 5 percent return would have generated $50 million of income, 10 times what was on the two pages released by Ms. Heinz Kerry. A statement released by the Kerry campaign noted that income taxes are paid directly by the Heinz family trust, in addition to taxes that Ms. Heinz Kerry pays.

When did she run for President?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It's hilarious coming from Obama, who is possibly a gay man who got into colleges claiming he was born in Kenya

 

[Seawytch]

What a bunch of whinny ass liberals, when Romeny hires lawyers and pays millions of dollars to keep those documents secret like obama has done many times you'll have something to bitch about.

Except President Obama hasn't done that.

Obama’s college records are not “sealed” by a court order, as this graphic would have you believe. It would be illegal under federal law (the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act of 1974) for Occidental, Columbia or Harvard Law School to give any former student’s records to reporters or members of the public without that person’s specific, written permission. Obama hasn’t released them, but neither have other presidential candidates released their college records. George W. Bush’s grades at Yale eventually became public, but only because somebody leaked them to the New Yorker magazine. Bush himself refused to release them, according to a 1999 profile in the Washington Post.​

Obama’s ‘Sealed’ Records

 

[bigrebnc1775]

What a bunch of whinny ass liberals, when Romeny hires lawyers and pays millions of dollars to keep those documents secret like obama has done many times you'll have something to bitch about.

Except President Obama hasn't done that.

Obama’s college records are not “sealed” by a court order, as this graphic would have you believe. It would be illegal under federal law (the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act of 1974) for Occidental, Columbia or Harvard Law School to give any former student’s records to reporters or members of the public without that person’s specific, written permission. Obama hasn’t released them, but neither have other presidential candidates released their college records. George W. Bush’s grades at Yale eventually became public, but only because somebody leaked them to the New Yorker magazine. Bush himself refused to release them, according to a 1999 profile in the Washington Post.​

Obama’s ‘Sealed’ Records

What was obama's GPA in college? his admission papers ?
You're using the same group which obama was a board member of?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

It's hilarious coming from Obama, who is possibly a gay man who got into colleges claiming he was born in Kenya

Yep

 

[Seawytch]

What a bunch of whinny ass liberals, when Romeny hires lawyers and pays millions of dollars to keep those documents secret like obama has done many times you'll have something to bitch about.

Except President Obama hasn't done that.

Obama’s college records are not “sealed” by a court order, as this graphic would have you believe. It would be illegal under federal law (the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act of 1974) for Occidental, Columbia or Harvard Law School to give any former student’s records to reporters or members of the public without that person’s specific, written permission. Obama hasn’t released them, but neither have other presidential candidates released their college records. George W. Bush’s grades at Yale eventually became public, but only because somebody leaked them to the New Yorker magazine. Bush himself refused to release them, according to a 1999 profile in the Washington Post.​

Obama’s ‘Sealed’ Records

What was obama's GPA in college? his admission papers ?
You're using the same group which obama was a board member of?

His GPA was high enough for him to have graduated Magna cum Laude and to become editor of the Law Review. They don't usually give that to "C" students.

Presidents do not usually release their college transcripts. Bush's release was a fluke...because he didn't release them. Kerry's were in his military records which he did allow to be released.

Romney is running on his business record isn't he? If that is the case, why isn't it pertinent to see how his business acumen stacks up?

I think it is pretty damn funny that a birther is defending Romney not releasing his tax returns.

 

[Ravi]

Romney wanted us to take his word for it a decade ago when he said he had been filing his taxes as a Massachusetts resident. He was lying then. Why should he be believed now?

Was the truth discovered before or after the election to governor?

Before and get this ... he retroactively made himself a resident.

Republican gubernatorial hopeful Mitt Romney contradicted his previous public statements yesterday, and said for the first time that he did not file Massachusetts income tax returns for 1999 and 2000 as a resident of this state.

At a news conference, Romney said that he filed as a part-year resident for 1999 and a nonresident for 2000. He amended those returns, claiming Massachusetts resident status, on April 2, a week after he announced he was running for governor of Massachusetts and four days before the state Republican convention that endorsed his candidacy.

The Massachusetts Constitution requires a governor to be a resident for each of the seven years prior to the election. Romney has been embroiled in a controversy over his residency since Wednesday, when the Globe reported his home in Park City, Utah, was classified as his “primary residence” for 1999 through 2001, giving him a $54,000 break on his property taxes.

Romney says he didn’t file as Mass. resident in ‘99-’00 - Metro - The Boston Globe

Funny! He was basically an illegal immigrant that was able to pay for his citizenship. Such irony.

 

[Ravi]

As ought to be evident to all, FACTS appear to be much less important to electoral outcomes than the PERCEPTION of the facts.

Now I do not doubt that Romney did nothing wrong when it comes to having paid his taxes.

So why, given these charges, is Romeny refusing to show the American people how much he paid over the last decade?

I think we all understand why he refuses.

Because what we would discover is that Romeny paid a very small percentage of his income. Like a percentage much much lower than the average working person in the USA.

And THAT would be percieved as being unfair, even if Romeny's tax returns were perfectly legal.

After all, Romney's complaint is that the very welathy pay way too high a percentage in taxes.

But it is very likely that if we saw what HE PAID, we would discover that he paid a very low percentage of his income.

In other words the basic thrust of his complaint about taxes would prove to be (at least in HIS case) total bullshit.

THAT is why Romney hesitates to END this story.

Because it would end when Romeny was proven to be just another whining rich boy who enjoys enormous tax breaks that most people cannot enjoy.

And thus blotheth up many bullshit narratives conservatives have been weaving for decades.

Yep.

 

[SniperFire]

Are you silly people still talking about old tax records?

America has moved on and we are looking to find a couple of leaders who are great with numbers who can help save us from a looming fiscal crisis.


Know of anybody?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Except President Obama hasn't done that.

Obama’s college records are not “sealed” by a court order, as this graphic would have you believe. It would be illegal under federal law (the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act of 1974) for Occidental, Columbia or Harvard Law School to give any former student’s records to reporters or members of the public without that person’s specific, written permission. Obama hasn’t released them, but neither have other presidential candidates released their college records. George W. Bush’s grades at Yale eventually became public, but only because somebody leaked them to the New Yorker magazine. Bush himself refused to release them, according to a 1999 profile in the Washington Post.​

Obama’s ‘Sealed’ Records

What was obama's GPA in college? his admission papers ?
You're using the same group which obama was a board member of?

His GPA was high enough for him to have graduated Magna cum Laude and to become editor of the Law Review. They don't usually give that to "C" students.

Presidents do not usually release their college transcripts. Bush's release was a fluke...because he didn't release them. Kerry's were in his military records which he did allow to be released.

Romney is running on his business record isn't he? If that is the case, why isn't it pertinent to see how his business acumen stacks up?

I think it is pretty damn funny that a birther is defending Romney not releasing his tax returns.

His GPA was high enough for him to have graduated Magna cum Laude and to become editor of the Law Review.

Really what was it? was he just a token negro for Harvard? What papers did he write as editor of the law review?

 

[Seawytch]

What was obama's GPA in college? his admission papers ?
You're using the same group which obama was a board member of?

His GPA was high enough for him to have graduated Magna cum Laude and to become editor of the Law Review. They don't usually give that to "C" students.

Presidents do not usually release their college transcripts. Bush's release was a fluke...because he didn't release them. Kerry's were in his military records which he did allow to be released.

Romney is running on his business record isn't he? If that is the case, why isn't it pertinent to see how his business acumen stacks up?

I think it is pretty damn funny that a birther is defending Romney not releasing his tax returns.

His GPA was high enough for him to have graduated Magna cum Laude and to become editor of the Law Review.

Really what was it? was he just a token negro for Harvard? What papers did he write as editor of the law review?

You don't approach anything from a reasonable person standard do you?

Obama kept Law Review balanced

 

[Wry Catcher]

What was obama's GPA in college? his admission papers ?
You're using the same group which obama was a board member of?

His GPA was high enough for him to have graduated Magna cum Laude and to become editor of the Law Review. They don't usually give that to "C" students.

Presidents do not usually release their college transcripts. Bush's release was a fluke...because he didn't release them. Kerry's were in his military records which he did allow to be released.

Romney is running on his business record isn't he? If that is the case, why isn't it pertinent to see how his business acumen stacks up?

I think it is pretty damn funny that a birther is defending Romney not releasing his tax returns.

His GPA was high enough for him to have graduated Magna cum Laude and to become editor of the Law Review.

Really what was it? was he just a token negro for Harvard? What papers did he write as editor of the law review?

You're too funny.

Law Review - What Is Law Review

Why do you constantly post on issues you know nothing about?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

His GPA was high enough for him to have graduated Magna cum Laude and to become editor of the Law Review. They don't usually give that to "C" students.

Presidents do not usually release their college transcripts. Bush's release was a fluke...because he didn't release them. Kerry's were in his military records which he did allow to be released.

Romney is running on his business record isn't he? If that is the case, why isn't it pertinent to see how his business acumen stacks up?

I think it is pretty damn funny that a birther is defending Romney not releasing his tax returns.

His GPA was high enough for him to have graduated Magna cum Laude and to become editor of the Law Review.

Really what was it? was he just a token negro for Harvard? What papers did he write as editor of the law review?

You're too funny.

Law Review - What Is Law Review

Why do you constantly post on issues you know nothing about?

I suggest you follow your own advise, you butt the fuck in and clueless about the subject.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

His GPA was high enough for him to have graduated Magna cum Laude and to become editor of the Law Review. They don't usually give that to "C" students.

Presidents do not usually release their college transcripts. Bush's release was a fluke...because he didn't release them. Kerry's were in his military records which he did allow to be released.

Romney is running on his business record isn't he? If that is the case, why isn't it pertinent to see how his business acumen stacks up?

I think it is pretty damn funny that a birther is defending Romney not releasing his tax returns.

His GPA was high enough for him to have graduated Magna cum Laude and to become editor of the Law Review.

Really what was it? was he just a token negro for Harvard? What papers did he write as editor of the law review?

You don't approach anything from a reasonable person standard do you?

Obama kept Law Review balanced

You never did answer the question try again. If you think Politico is balanced and fair I can get fox