President Trump - The Deal Maker

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    The president just signed "The Federal Budget," the first one since Apr 29, 2009, or 8.8 years ago. A total of 3,207 days of Congressional inability to perform its constitutional duty. (And the April 2009 was the first in 6 years)



    So, what is exactly in the bill? I'd love to tell you or give you a link but every search I've tried has come up empty. We find all sorts of news reports like the one President Trump signs budget deal; “Our Military will now be stronger than ever before” but they only give generalities. There is also this @ Trump says he has signed budget bill



    What's in the bill



    The massive two-year budget deal proposed by Senate leaders Wednesday raises budget caps by $300 billion in the next two years, increases the debt ceiling and offers up nearly $90 billion in disaster relief for hurricane-ravaged Texas, Florida and Puerto Rico.



    About $165 billion would go to the Pentagon and $131 billion to non-defense programs.



    The debt ceiling will be raised by the appropriate amount until March 2019.



    Exact spending would be left to the appropriations committees, but included in the funding is $10 billion to invest in infrastructure, $2.9 billion for child care and $3 billion to combat opioid and substance abuse.



    Again, no specific but I did note the final paragraph above that says the congressional committees would determine the exact spending.



    So, just what the hell did he sign? And where can we read it?



    Anyone know?



    So, exactly what is the "budget?"



    The U.S. Constitution (Article I, section 9, clause 7) states that "No money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time."



    Appropriations. Not budget. There's a difference. A budget is simply a financial plan for a defined period of time. A PLAN. I think that comes under the Statement and Account of Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money above.



    So, where on earth can we find that?



    And, it appears what the president also signed appropriations to keep the government open for more than a few days. No more kicking the can down the road.



    He obviously didn't get everything he wanted as the Lame Street Media is eager to tell you. But, he got something! A whole lot more than anyone expected and he overcame some serious snags by Republicans - supposedly members of his own political party/ (Gotta admit that I don't believe he really a Republican - or a Democrat. I don't think there's a current political party that he truly fits into.)



    Will he get what he promised? I'm willing to bet he will. He's shown that he knows how to make deals and he'll keep on doing so. There's always another one to make. And, it takes one sharp cookie to get what he's done so far. 7 more years to go!!!
     
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    I thought so too as I watched this morning. However, the bill that went to President Trump includes lots more...a 2-year spending appropriation.

    Read the top line of the Actions. Then if you have a few weeks to spare, read the Text.

    Actions - H.R.1892 - 115th Congress (2017-2018): Bipartisan Budget Act of 2018

    Text - H.R.1892 - 115th Congress (2017-2018): Bipartisan Budget Act of 2018
     
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    Doesn't appear that Trump did any 'deal making' with this bill- it was entirely a product of Congress.

    As usual Trump is leading from behind.
     
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    Ok, I found the actual bill is the one I posted, as it is the one that Trump signed.
    Here is the pdf link to it-
    https://www.congress.gov/115/bills/hr1892/BILLS-115hr1892enr.pdf

    FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 69(Republicans in roman; Democrats in italic; Independents underlined)
    H R 1892 RECORDED VOTE 9-Feb-2018 5:32 AM
    QUESTION: On Motion to Concur in the Senate Amdt to the House Amdt to the Senate Amdt
    BILL TITLE: The Bipartisan Budget Act of 2018

    And link to article showing bill number-
    President Donald J. Trump Signs H.R. 1892 into Law

    On Friday, February 9, 2018, the President signed into law:

    H.R. 1892, the “Bipartisan Budget Act of 2018,” which authorizes the U.S. flag to be flown at half-staff in the event of the death of a first responder in the line of duty. Division B of the enrolled bill provides additional emergency supplemental appropriations related to recent hurricanes, wildfires, and other disasters including tax relief and Medicaid changes; division B also includes a short-term continuing resolution that provides fiscal year (FY) 2018 appropriations for continuing projects and activities of the Federal Government through Friday, March 23, 2018. Division C of the enrolled bill increases the discretionary defense and non-defense category caps in FY 2018 and FY 2019; extends the sequestration of mandatory spending by two years; division C also establishes two Joint Select Committees, a committee to improve the solvency of multiemployer pension plans and a committee to provide recommendations on reforming the budget and appropriations process; temporarily suspends the statutory debt limit through March 1, 2019. Division D of the enrolled bill extends provisions that provide tax relief to families and individuals; provides incentives for job growth; and incentives for energy production and conservation. Division E of the enrolled bill extends or modifies Medicare, Medicaid, and other health programs, including various foster care and child welfare programs, and includes various offsets related to Medicare, Medicaid, and other health programs. Division F of the enrolled bill includes agriculture program improvements for cotton, livestock, and dairy producers. Division G of the enrolled bill includes direction regarding the budgetary effects of division A, subdivision 2 of division B, division C, and each succeeding division. Additional information regarding these provisions can be found in the attachment.

    And an article as to budget allocations-
    Trump Signs 2-Year Spending Pact


     
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    The summary is @ H.R.1892 - 115th Congress (2017-2018): Bipartisan Budget Act of 2018 a lot easier to read.
     
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    The entire premise of this thread is a lie.

    The reason there was no budget the last 8 years is because Republican in the Congress obstructed the federal government for 8 years because their racism against President Obama commanded them to not work with him on anything. Any adult over the age of 7 knows this. But conservatives are forever searching for a noble ending to their bullshit so we have the OP.

    One thing that is true is that the Democrats aren't doing the same thing now, which they should. They should just block anything the orange turd wants to do. But the Democrats don't appear to have the backbone. And their poll numbers are falling because of it. And I'm glad.
     
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    If you like to live with your delusions that's your think. Good luck.
     
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    :yes_text12::udaman:

    you have noticed that about him as well huh? that he only sees what he WANTS to see when he is proven wrong.:iyfyus.jpg:
     

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