President Trump & Sec. 4 of the 25th Amendment

[martybegan]

And that makes you a better person how?

Maybe you all would finally get it. Because clearly, that you still vote for these guys after they give you underwater mortgages and busted 401K's doesn't get the point across.

"Blah blah blah, I can't look after my own finances so i blame someone else, blah blah blah"

 

[Wry Catcher]

Trump's one and only crime and malfunction remains the schlonging he gave Hillary and the Dems on Nov 8th 2016

Thank you Frank, I can always expect something which is not thoughtful, not thought provoking, not substantive and thus ridiculous from you.

 

[Wry Catcher]

IMO, Trump manifests Cluster B Personality Disorders, thus, he feels he does not need to prepare himself for tasks he is not familiar with, he actually believes he can con everyone; he will continue these behaviors, until the day he leaves office, to believe he can outsmart or destroy those who dare to challenge him. Below Are characteristics which may describe Trump's behavior as President, during the campaign, when seeking the nomination and during his years as a real estate/casino owner.

301.7 Antisocial Personality Disorder (PD):

• Aggression against people
• Often starts fights
• Uses power against others
• Showed Cruelty to people
• Force sex upon someone

301.50 Histrionic P.D.

• Discomfort when not the center of attention
• Relationships often fraught with inappropraite seductive or sexually provocative behavior
• Expressions of emotions that are shallow (false pathos)
• Speech which is vague and lacks detail (Crooked Hillary)
• Overly Dramatic
• Easily suggestible

301.81 Narcissistic P.D.

• Grandiose sense of self-importance
• Preoccupation with fantasies of beauty, brilliance, power or limitless success
• Believe that personal uniqueness renders him fit only for associations with people or institutions of rarefied status
• Need for excessive admiration
• A sense of entitlement, expects favorable treatment or automatic granting of his own wishes.

Those who watch Trump, listen to his words and read his tweets may agree with this assessment of The President. Those who do not are fully free to offer a rebuttal

Many of these apply to Bubba Clinton, hiLIARy Clinton and Barack Obabble.

Just sayin'.

Off topic ^^^ though most pols will be characterized in this way, by those with biases.

I doubt very few exhibit the same extreme behaviors and actions taken by Trump since he began his quest to the White House. In my opinion he is unfit to hold the power given to him, and needs to be evaluated by professionals, before he does more damage to our nation and its people.

Of course I'm biased, I don't trust Trump and I've posted many times that I believe he is inept, incompetent, insincere and self serving.

I'm flabbergasted that any patriot supports him and defends him. His treatment of others is horrific, his promises hollow and his concern for others the definition of false pathos.

What is on topic is that these type of diagnoses are only valid based on qualified specialists examining the individual.

That hasn't happened; so all you are doing is maligning someone for political purposes.

Read my post. For the record and to help someone like you (the ignorant and incurious) Sec. 4 provides for just that, and that is exactly what I posted when I used the term "ruled out". Replacing Trump so professionals can evaluate The President is what I believe is necessary.

Of course his treatment of others, his massive ego and lack of experience will not be evaluated by Psychiatrists and Psychologists, it will be evaluated by We the People, since common sense suggests that he is unfit and incompetent - something anyone who has worked with others can see in co-workers and especially by those of us who supervised many people.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Trump's one and only crime and malfunction remains the schlonging he gave Hillary and the Dems on Nov 8th 2016

Thank you Frank, I can always expect something which is not thoughtful, not thought provoking, not substantive and thus ridiculous from you.

Glad to help.

Sorry if the truth hurts

 

[Wry Catcher]

Trump's one and only crime and malfunction remains the schlonging he gave Hillary and the Dems on Nov 8th 2016

Thank you Frank, I can always expect something which is not thoughtful, not thought provoking, not substantive and thus ridiculous from you.

Glad to help.

Sorry if the truth hurts

Frank, you may believe you are adroit, and rarely (maybe twice) you've posted something of substance, so I know you are not retarded, but you sure are not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Most on your side of the aisle, are knives used on butter plates.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Trump's one and only crime and malfunction remains the schlonging he gave Hillary and the Dems on Nov 8th 2016

Thank you Frank, I can always expect something which is not thoughtful, not thought provoking, not substantive and thus ridiculous from you.

Glad to help.

Sorry if the truth hurts

Frank, you may believe you are adroit, and rarely (maybe twice) you've posted something of substance, so I know you are not retarded, but you sure are not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Most on your side of the aisle, are knives used on butter plates.

You know that I thank Al Gore for inventing the Internet which has given Progressives endless opportunities to demonstrate their Intellectuals street cred.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Trump's one and only crime and malfunction remains the schlonging he gave Hillary and the Dems on Nov 8th 2016

Thank you Frank, I can always expect something which is not thoughtful, not thought provoking, not substantive and thus ridiculous from you.

Glad to help.

Sorry if the truth hurts

Frank, you may believe you are adroit, and rarely (maybe twice) you've posted something of substance, so I know you are not retarded, but you sure are not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Most on your side of the aisle, are knives used on butter plates.

You know that I thank Al Gore for inventing the Internet which has given Progressives endless opportunities to demonstrate their Intellectuals street cred.

Idiot-gram ^^^ of the not adroit category.

 

[Wry Catcher]

I posted something which will benefit even the butter knives, i.e. not the sharpest knives in the drawer. I'll repeat the link in my Breaking News thread since it is something everyone ought to read and consider.

The link between your gut health and autoimmune diseases

 

[JoeB131]

The wealthy are "the people" as well.

Not some reservoir for government to sponge off of.

Yes, how dare the government take back what they cheated the rest of us out of!

 

[JoeB131]

"Blah blah blah, I can't look after my own finances so i blame someone else, blah blah blah"

I did everything our society said I should do.. while the Banksters gamed and manipulated the system and lied...

Guess who got the bailout?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Clearly I posted No. My reasons for doing so are listed in the OP, I believe, based on my education and experience, President Trump's behavior is unfit for, and he is incapable of adhering to the oath of office of the President of The United States:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

I also believe The President is being protected by the Sessions (AG), Rep. Nunes (chairman of the Intelligence committee), and especially the VP and The Speaker of the House, both who have the power to invoke Sec. 4 of the 25th Amendment to COTUS

Well except he was already checked by ACTUAL doctors and they all found hi in good health so much for you wanna be doctors.

 

[martybegan]

The wealthy are "the people" as well.

Not some reservoir for government to sponge off of.

Yes, how dare the government take back what they cheated the rest of us out of!

They didn't cheat anyone.

Your own greed and envy are the cause of your views on that.

 

[martybegan]

"Blah blah blah, I can't look after my own finances so i blame someone else, blah blah blah"

I did everything our society said I should do.. while the Banksters gamed and manipulated the system and lied...

Guess who got the bailout?

Oh poor wibble joeblow...

Lol, its so clear that for all your bloviating you are just a jealous little man.

 

[JoeB131]

They didn't cheat anyone.

did you just miss the whole 2008 thing?

Or do you think it was because Jimmy Carter made it easier for poor people to buy houses.

Don't answer that, we don't want you to expose your racism and stupidity any more than you already have.

 

[martybegan]

They didn't cheat anyone.

did you just miss the whole 2008 thing?

Or do you think it was because Jimmy Carter made it easier for poor people to buy houses.

Don't answer that, we don't want you to expose your racism and stupidity any more than you already have.

2008 was everyone making money top to bottom and no one caring about how.

And opening up the low end mortgage market was everyone's fault, from the people selling to the people buying.

 

[JoeB131]

2008 was everyone making money top to bottom and no one caring about how.

And opening up the low end mortgage market was everyone's fault, from the people selling to the people buying.

Um, no, it was entirely the bank's fault, because they should have known better.

For instance, if I gave you money to hold on to for me, and you spent it on drugs and hookers, it's not the hooker or dealers' fault, it's yours.

Happy to have cleared that up for you.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

it's crystal clear by his twitter tantrums that he has arrested development disorder, however 'regular' narcissism just doesn't cut it with that creature.

How to Recognize a Malignant Narcissist
The intentional destruction of others while pathologically loving self
Posted Feb 22, 2017

[...]
Malignant Narcissism

I want to explore with you the darker side of narcissistic personality disorder, where aggression, antisocial behaviors, and suspiciousness are as prominent as their poor sense of self, fragility, and egocentricity. (Below is a video clip that explores the symptoms of malignant narcissism.)

A person with malignant narcissism has the potential to destroy families, communities, nations, and work environments. This condition reflects a hybrid or blending of narcissistic and antisocial personality disorders. Psychologist Eric Fromm termed the disorder in 1964. Psychoanalyst Otto Kernberg later delineated the symptoms of the condition and presented it as an intermediary between narcissistic and antisocial personality disorders.

Why is the behavior of malignant narcissism often considered dangerous?

Individuals with this profile can form connections with others. However, they process information in ways that can hurt society in general, but also the people who love or depend on them. Family, co-workers, employees, and others in their lives often have to walk on eggshells to appease a fragile ego and minimize the occurrence of their unstable, impulsive, or aggressive behaviors.

They lash out or humiliate others for infractions of even the most frivolous nature (for example, you gave an opinion that differed from theirs; you demonstrated confidence, and it made them look bad; you told a joke that involved poking fun at them).

For some, their grandiosity and protection of their fragile "true self" can be at such extreme levels that they will lie and give the impression that simply because they say it, that makes it reality. Many will become angered if their lies are challenged with truth or facts. Of course, this can create problems for the people close to them, as this pattern of behavior can easily veer into gaslighting.
[...]

How to Recognize a Malignant Narcissist

Thanks, I finished grad school 25 years ago and have yet to peruse DSM-V. Thus my DSM-IV is behind current research.

Posting as I did the points in Cluster B, which needed to be ruled out by competent and unbiased professionals seems to be adequate for Pence and others to invoke Sec. 4 of the 25th Amendment. Reading you link was most informative and enlightening for those who read it.

And again for the slow and stupid President Bush was given a medical exam in January and found fit. So much for your wet dream.

 

[Wry Catcher]

it's crystal clear by his twitter tantrums that he has arrested development disorder, however 'regular' narcissism just doesn't cut it with that creature.

How to Recognize a Malignant Narcissist
The intentional destruction of others while pathologically loving self
Posted Feb 22, 2017

[...]
Malignant Narcissism

I want to explore with you the darker side of narcissistic personality disorder, where aggression, antisocial behaviors, and suspiciousness are as prominent as their poor sense of self, fragility, and egocentricity. (Below is a video clip that explores the symptoms of malignant narcissism.)

A person with malignant narcissism has the potential to destroy families, communities, nations, and work environments. This condition reflects a hybrid or blending of narcissistic and antisocial personality disorders. Psychologist Eric Fromm termed the disorder in 1964. Psychoanalyst Otto Kernberg later delineated the symptoms of the condition and presented it as an intermediary between narcissistic and antisocial personality disorders.

Why is the behavior of malignant narcissism often considered dangerous?

Individuals with this profile can form connections with others. However, they process information in ways that can hurt society in general, but also the people who love or depend on them. Family, co-workers, employees, and others in their lives often have to walk on eggshells to appease a fragile ego and minimize the occurrence of their unstable, impulsive, or aggressive behaviors.

They lash out or humiliate others for infractions of even the most frivolous nature (for example, you gave an opinion that differed from theirs; you demonstrated confidence, and it made them look bad; you told a joke that involved poking fun at them).

For some, their grandiosity and protection of their fragile "true self" can be at such extreme levels that they will lie and give the impression that simply because they say it, that makes it reality. Many will become angered if their lies are challenged with truth or facts. Of course, this can create problems for the people close to them, as this pattern of behavior can easily veer into gaslighting.
[...]

How to Recognize a Malignant Narcissist

Thanks, I finished grad school 25 years ago and have yet to peruse DSM-V. Thus my DSM-IV is behind current research.

Posting as I did the points in Cluster B, which needed to be ruled out by competent and unbiased professionals seems to be adequate for Pence and others to invoke Sec. 4 of the 25th Amendment. Reading you link was most informative and enlightening for those who read it.

And again for the slow and stupid President Bush was given a medical exam in January and found fit. So much for your wet dream.

President Bush is not the issue, he has not been POTUS since Jan. 2009. Trump is the one who is inept, incompetent and in need of a full psychological evaluation.

 

[eagle1462010]

it's crystal clear by his twitter tantrums that he has arrested development disorder, however 'regular' narcissism just doesn't cut it with that creature.

How to Recognize a Malignant Narcissist
The intentional destruction of others while pathologically loving self
Posted Feb 22, 2017

[...]
Malignant Narcissism

I want to explore with you the darker side of narcissistic personality disorder, where aggression, antisocial behaviors, and suspiciousness are as prominent as their poor sense of self, fragility, and egocentricity. (Below is a video clip that explores the symptoms of malignant narcissism.)

A person with malignant narcissism has the potential to destroy families, communities, nations, and work environments. This condition reflects a hybrid or blending of narcissistic and antisocial personality disorders. Psychologist Eric Fromm termed the disorder in 1964. Psychoanalyst Otto Kernberg later delineated the symptoms of the condition and presented it as an intermediary between narcissistic and antisocial personality disorders.

Why is the behavior of malignant narcissism often considered dangerous?

Individuals with this profile can form connections with others. However, they process information in ways that can hurt society in general, but also the people who love or depend on them. Family, co-workers, employees, and others in their lives often have to walk on eggshells to appease a fragile ego and minimize the occurrence of their unstable, impulsive, or aggressive behaviors.

They lash out or humiliate others for infractions of even the most frivolous nature (for example, you gave an opinion that differed from theirs; you demonstrated confidence, and it made them look bad; you told a joke that involved poking fun at them).

For some, their grandiosity and protection of their fragile "true self" can be at such extreme levels that they will lie and give the impression that simply because they say it, that makes it reality. Many will become angered if their lies are challenged with truth or facts. Of course, this can create problems for the people close to them, as this pattern of behavior can easily veer into gaslighting.
[...]

How to Recognize a Malignant Narcissist

Thanks, I finished grad school 25 years ago and have yet to peruse DSM-V. Thus my DSM-IV is behind current research.

Posting as I did the points in Cluster B, which needed to be ruled out by competent and unbiased professionals seems to be adequate for Pence and others to invoke Sec. 4 of the 25th Amendment. Reading you link was most informative and enlightening for those who read it.

And again for the slow and stupid President Bush was given a medical exam in January and found fit. So much for your wet dream.

President Bush is not the issue, he has not been POTUS since Jan. 2009. Trump is the one who is inept, incompetent and in need of a full psychological evaluation.

When did they let you out of your padded cell......................you have serious mental issues

 

[RetiredGySgt]

it's crystal clear by his twitter tantrums that he has arrested development disorder, however 'regular' narcissism just doesn't cut it with that creature.

How to Recognize a Malignant Narcissist
The intentional destruction of others while pathologically loving self
Posted Feb 22, 2017

[...]
Malignant Narcissism

I want to explore with you the darker side of narcissistic personality disorder, where aggression, antisocial behaviors, and suspiciousness are as prominent as their poor sense of self, fragility, and egocentricity. (Below is a video clip that explores the symptoms of malignant narcissism.)

A person with malignant narcissism has the potential to destroy families, communities, nations, and work environments. This condition reflects a hybrid or blending of narcissistic and antisocial personality disorders. Psychologist Eric Fromm termed the disorder in 1964. Psychoanalyst Otto Kernberg later delineated the symptoms of the condition and presented it as an intermediary between narcissistic and antisocial personality disorders.

Why is the behavior of malignant narcissism often considered dangerous?

Individuals with this profile can form connections with others. However, they process information in ways that can hurt society in general, but also the people who love or depend on them. Family, co-workers, employees, and others in their lives often have to walk on eggshells to appease a fragile ego and minimize the occurrence of their unstable, impulsive, or aggressive behaviors.

They lash out or humiliate others for infractions of even the most frivolous nature (for example, you gave an opinion that differed from theirs; you demonstrated confidence, and it made them look bad; you told a joke that involved poking fun at them).

For some, their grandiosity and protection of their fragile "true self" can be at such extreme levels that they will lie and give the impression that simply because they say it, that makes it reality. Many will become angered if their lies are challenged with truth or facts. Of course, this can create problems for the people close to them, as this pattern of behavior can easily veer into gaslighting.
[...]

How to Recognize a Malignant Narcissist

Thanks, I finished grad school 25 years ago and have yet to peruse DSM-V. Thus my DSM-IV is behind current research.

Posting as I did the points in Cluster B, which needed to be ruled out by competent and unbiased professionals seems to be adequate for Pence and others to invoke Sec. 4 of the 25th Amendment. Reading you link was most informative and enlightening for those who read it.

And again for the slow and stupid President Bush was given a medical exam in January and found fit. So much for your wet dream.

President Bush is not the issue, he has not been POTUS since Jan. 2009. Trump is the one who is inept, incompetent and in need of a full psychological evaluation.

I meant Trump as you well know and he was checked in January so your wanna be diagnosis is garbage in garbage out retard.