President Obama's Push Towards Socialism

[konradv]

Why would a left-winger like you have a photo of H.L. Mencken as your avatar?

H.L Mencken despised everything liberals believe in.

He wouldn't have thought much about you either. His other anathema was the "booboisie", like those who chose the fundamentalist side of the Scopes trial debate.

 

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Daily Kos: Undisputable evidence of Obama's*socialism
Top 7 Facts From Obama’s Background That Prove He’s a Socialist | NewsReal Blog
Obama Communist, Marxist, Socialist, Progressive, Commie

Read these and get back to me.

I went to three links you provided. The links back up (as far as you are concerned) your view that Obama 'was' somehow a socialist. One proof/fact is that Obama attended a socialist conference.

I've attended Republican conferences, and business conferences, and public health conferences, and Democratic conferences..,

Your other proofs are similar in nature.

Maybe you had trouble comprehending my questions? I ask for proof that Obama, according to Santorum and others, has brought the United States to the brink of socialism. I also ask about the claim that if this were so, where the proof is that Santorum could bring the United States bank from this alleged brink. ___ You've so far addressed neither of these issues, let alone offered proof that either has a factual basis.

Want to try again?

dD

That's about the weakest rebuttal you could make. The first part of your question (to prove that Obama has a socialist agenda) is taken care of in the links. I cannot prove anything about what Rick Santorum will do to reverse the momentum.

President Obama's Push Towards Socialism: is it a myth, or is there proof of it's existence? There is proof (linked above) ....you just refuse o acknowledge it.

The links you offered do not prove Obama is pushing the United States towards socialism. Maybe you need to read what you posted?

Proof? Saying Obama is a socialist (even if he were one) is no proof that he has pushed the United States towards socialism. If Obama did push the US towards socialism, how could he do it alone? You need to make a clear argument and offer proof. I've not denied any proof that Obama has pushed the US to the brink of socialism because no proof of this was offered.

understand?


dD

 

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President Obama's Push Towards Socialism:

If Obama was actually pushing for Socialism, he would have seized control of the banks and passed a Universal Health Care plan.

"Conservatives" don't know what Socialism means.

No one seized control of Banks in the United States. Universal Health Care exists in many democracies that are not truly socialist.

What does socialism mean to you or anyone else? And how has Obama pushed the US to the brink of it?


dD

 

[DontBeStupid]

President Obama's Push Towards Socialism:

If Obama was actually pushing for Socialism, he would have seized control of the banks and passed a Universal Health Care plan.

"Conservatives" don't know what Socialism means.

No one seized control of Banks in the United States. Universal Health Care exists in many democracies that are not truly socialist.

What does socialism mean to you or anyone else? And how has Obama pushed the US to the brink of it?


dD

Socialism - an economic system characterized by social ownership or control of the means of production and cooperative management of the economy, and a political philosophy advocating such a system.

Obama has done nothing to push for this system.

 

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Why would a left-winger like you have a photo of H.L. Mencken as your avatar?

H.L Mencken despised everything liberals believe in.

He wouldn't have thought much about you either. His other anathema was the "booboisie", like those who chose the fundamentalist side of the Scopes trial debate.

Most of my family (on one side) having been in the newspaper business, and some relatives living in Baltimore, would be about all I'd have had in common with him if we were ever to have met.

I collected enough of his magazines and books to know we would probably have very little in common in our personal or intellectual lives. Like me, the man was a loner with a close circle of trusted friends, who in public marched to the tune of a different drummer and that drummer was he.

I have no illusions, but I suspect you do, and you most probably suffer delusions too.

sweet eh?


dD

 

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Romney Care is a socialistic approach to a capitalist nightmare in the area of health insurance.

Regulating a business or industry is not Socialism.

A fact. Finally. Let somebody try and refute that one.

 

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President Obama's Push Towards Socialism:

If Obama was actually pushing for Socialism, he would have seized control of the banks and passed a Universal Health Care plan.

"Conservatives" don't know what Socialism means.

Oh most know they are just lying out their asses

you may have a point I agree with there if you substitute 'most' with 'some'

 

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President Obama's Push Towards Socialism:

If Obama was actually pushing for Socialism, he would have seized control of the banks and passed a Universal Health Care plan.

"Conservatives" don't know what Socialism means.

That's the truth right there, a real socialist would be all for nationalizing stuff rather than extending tax breaks and interest free loans to people who screwed things up to begin with.

'nuf said



dD

 

[Valox]

Daily Kos: Undisputable evidence of Obama's*socialism
Read these and get back to me.

If socialism is so good for the stock market, corporations, and investors, then why is this a bad thing?

Or did you not even check this link?

 

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Daily Kos: Undisputable evidence of Obama's*socialism
Read these and get back to me.

If socialism is so good for the stock market, corporations, and investors, then why is this a bad thing?

Or did you not even check this link?

Socialism? Where? Some graphs say something about socialism?

 

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If Obama was actually pushing for Socialism, he would have seized control of the banks and passed a Universal Health Care plan.

"Conservatives" don't know what Socialism means.

No one seized control of Banks in the United States. Universal Health Care exists in many democracies that are not truly socialist.

What does socialism mean to you or anyone else? And how has Obama pushed the US to the brink of it?


dD

Socialism - an economic system characterized by social ownership or control of the means of production and cooperative management of the economy, and a political philosophy advocating such a system.

Obama has done nothing to push for this system.

Wow! Does The Media Know About This?

 

[bripat9643]

Romney Care is a socialistic approach to a capitalist nightmare in the area of health insurance.

Regulating a business or industry is not Socialism.

Yes it is.

Socialism is government control of the economy, no matter what form it takes. Capitalism is private control.

It's as simple as that.

Of course, socialists want a very narrow definition of the term so they can blame all their failures on capitalism and also so the can slip legislation past the voters that wouldn't get approved if they truly understood what it was.

 

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President Obama's Push Towards Socialism: is it a myth, or is there proof of it's existence?

GOP Presidential Hopeful, Richard John "Rick" Santorum has said during campaign appearances that President Obama is pushing the United States 'to the brink of socialism, to the brink of losing our freedom' and Mr. Santorum claims he can 'reclaim our country' back from this brink.

I have a few serious reservations about this narrative, but what I wonder is how anyone believes this to be true, that we are on the brink of socialism and that Santorum can bring us back.

I see no proof of this brink or no proof that Santorum could bring the United States back from anything, real or imagined.

If any conservatives, right wingers, and anyone else here who is dissatisfied with Obama believes any of this, they need to offer proof in order to convince a majority of would be voters to buy into this narrative.

"Where's the beef?" Try proving something right here and now.

dD

Oh well. Can't say we didn't try to get a straight answer.

 

[Valox]

Daily Kos: Undisputable evidence of Obama's*socialism
Read these and get back to me.

If socialism is so good for the stock market, corporations, and investors, then why is this a bad thing?

Or did you not even check this link?

Socialism? Where? Some graphs say something about socialism?

Whoosh.....go google "sarcasm" and learn something.

 

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Romney Care is a socialistic approach to a capitalist nightmare in the area of health insurance.

Regulating a business or industry is not Socialism.

Yes it is.

Socialism is government control of the economy, no matter what form it takes. Capitalism is private control.

It's as simple as that.

Of course, socialists want a very narrow definition of the term so they can blame all their failures on capitalism and also so the can slip legislation past the voters that wouldn't get approved if they truly understood what it was.

Of course Alan Greenspan and Ronald Reagan were socialists in your narrow definition of what makes one a socialist?



ltr

dD

 

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If socialism is so good for the stock market, corporations, and investors, then why is this a bad thing?

Or did you not even check this link?

Socialism? Where? Some graphs say something about socialism?

Whoosh.....go google "sarcasm" and learn something.

oh...
you have no clue...

 

[Valox]

Socialism? Where? Some graphs say something about socialism?

Whoosh.....go google "sarcasm" and learn something.

oh...
you have no clue...

lol...go fuck yourself. Now you have made this personal by sending me personal messages because you lack comprehension. Gosh, you are fucking moron.

Listen fuckstick, that Kos link was a sarcastic link about Obama's socialism, showing how the stock market, corporations, and investors are thriving off of Obama's socialism.

Now fucktard, explain to me how that is socialism.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

If any conservatives, right wingers, and anyone else here who is dissatisfied with Obama believes any of this, they need to offer proof in order to convince a majority of would be voters to buy into this narrative.

The right has dogma, that’s all they need.

For Republicans "socialism" is any money spent on the non wealthy.

Or the non-military.

The government employees at the Pentagon do a wonderful job, and no rightist would propose doing away with the DOD, although it’s among the largest, most expensive, and wasteful of departments.

"Conservatives" don't know what Socialism means.

True.

The US is hard-core capitalist, free-market, and Obama is a promoter and benefactor of both.

Why would a left-winger like you have a photo of H.L. Mencken as your avatar?

H.L Mencken despised everything liberals believe in.

Read Mencken's Creed, and you’ll learn he was no conservative, either. Indeed, if he were alive today, Mencken would take up arms against the ignorance and stupidity of the right he so disdained.

 

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Whoosh.....go google "sarcasm" and learn something.

oh...
you have no clue...

lol...go fuck yourself. Now you have made this personal by sending me personal messages because you lack comprehension. Gosh, you are fucking moron.

Listen fuckstick, that Kos link was a sarcastic link about Obama's socialism, showing how the stock market, corporations, and investors are thriving off of Obama's socialism.

Now fucktard, explain to me how that is socialism.

I'll condescend to you this one time and then you need to get on with your life. Okay?

I'm a liberal who is asking others for proof that President Obama is pushing the United States towards the brink of socialism.

Dante's replies have nothing to do with you personally, but the personal message sent to was a gift. You have now joined a special club. The USMB Club for Social Misfits.

toodle doo

 

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Read Mencken's Creed, and you’ll learn he was no conservative, either. Indeed, if he were alive today, Mencken would take up arms against the ignorance and stupidity of the right he so disdained.

true dat