President Obama is the Problem?

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    For nearly 30 years, the policy practice of deregulating industry has destabilized our economy and produced internal economic bubbles that provided extravagant boom/bust cycles with abnormally sharp peaks and increasingly less distribution of wealth throughout our social structure, such that the Haves' have increased wealth at a massively disproportionate rate over the have Nots'. Those are the facts which are not in dispute.

    For nearly 30 years, Executive compensation and Golden Parachutes are up, employee salaries are down, the American Middle Class is being destroyed by the hour and American Middle Class Jobs have been packed-up and shipped off-shore. Those are facts which are not in dispute.

    For nearly 30 years, the High School drop-out rates have increased, College tuition costs have increased, College graduation rates have decreased and four year technical degree completions have been cut by more than half, while business related degree completions have increased by more than 275% over the exact same period. These are facts which are not in dispute.

    $50 Trillion in global wealth was wiped-out as a direct result of the 2008 global economic implosion. Consumer debt in the U.S. since 2000, has increased geometrically and consumer credit default rates have more than tripled in the same time. Since the invasion of Iraq, in 2003, global fuel prices have driven commodity prices higher and the cost at the pump as well as the grocery store check-out stand were the resultant children and the USD tumbled in value both internally and externally against most major currencies around the world. These are facts not in dispute.

    Both, political policy and U.S. corporate practice have brought us to this point. The most deployed political policy over the past 30 years has been that free market reign -aka- Trickle Down Economics. A simple minded economic theory that says: hands off the free market - allow the free market to regulate itself, monitor itself, stabilize itself, and in doing so, the free market will make all the right decisions for the broader economy. Survival of the most fit. Trickle Down has miserably failed our Republic. These are facts not in dispute.

    Presidential hopefuls as well as political adversaries, are making the claim that President Obama, is a "failed President," because the economy is not producing the 2.1 million jobs necessary to replace the 8+ million jobs lost under the previous Administration over the prior eight years before Obama's term in office. These are facts not in dispute.


    So, here is my question:

    If the political and economic policy that helped to cause the 2008 global meltdown, comes from the exact same source that lays failure at the doorstep of President Obama, how is it logically possible for the current set of Presidential hopefuls to have sufficient economic high-ground necessary to provide the policy solutions needed to solve the current economic crisis?

    In other words, if you created the problem, when did you magically obtain the credibility, know-how, desire and the will necessary to provide the solution to the problem you created more than eight years ago?

    Furthermore, if you created the problem more than eight years ago, what qualifies you to lay blame at the doorstep of those who have attempted to solve the problem that you created, and why should the American People trust you to solve the problem that you could not solve more than eight years ago?

    You know - as I sit here over the past 3 years and listen to irrational, illogical, unsubstantiated, unproven and massively hypocritical attacks on President Obama, for not cleaning-up the mess left behind by his political adversaries fast enough, I'm reminded of reminded of the little African American Slave boy who gets whipped by his Slave Master for not cleaning up the spilled Whiskey fast enough, left behind by the "Master" himself.

    President Obama, has had to play the role of Janitor In Chief, for the past 3 years - cleaning up a global toxic waste dumping zone left behind by those seeking Iraqi PSA Oil contracts and Derivatives profits from destructive financial bubbles that were engineered and arranged by the very same people who have since turned their back on the President and now label him as "failed."

    If that is not the very definition of twisted, then I don't know what qualifies.

    - Create the regulatory environment for the mess
    - Create the rules for how the mess turns into a bubble
    - Create the trigger for the fall of the mess
    - Execute the mess
    - Get reimbursed for the mess you created by tax payers
    - Sit back and lay blame for not cleaning up the mess fast enough
    - Run for President and proclaim that YOU have the fix for the mess

    What a sales job. And, what's even more disgusting is the fact that millions of Americans will buy it.

    How reprobate have we become as American Citizens?
     
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    Wow, how stupid are you?

    :lol:
     
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    No one is as stupid as you. You're such a morbidly fucking retard. I feel sad for you. Being the worst in every class as a child. And now the worst on every message board as a brain dead adult. Pitiful. Just Pitiful.
     
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    Janitor-in-chief? Really Gracie? He's continued many policies he said he'd stop and add to the mess himself. :lol:
     
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    Let's say that Obama was to clean up the mess. Just what has he taken steps toward cleaning? Let's keep with the cleaning theme, if a gallon of milk is spilled on the floor, there is a process to go through to clean it up. The first thing you do is stop any more milk from leaking out by setting the gallon jug upright. It seems this presedent, as a first step of cleaning is to turn the gallon jug completely over dumping even more milk out

    There comes a point when you start to realize that the one that is supposed to clean up is not. If you want to hang a 'atta boy' sign on someone, do it to Clinton, at least during his term there was a balanced budget (he at least righted the gallon of milk)

    It seems as though your interested in casting blame... Which doesn't actually clean up anything. I'm not into blaming, I'm into the job of getting someone in the whitehouse that will clean. This current prez isn't cleaning, he is making a bigger mess and needs to be shown the door
     
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    Let's say that Obama was to clean up the mess. Just what has he taken steps toward cleaning? Let's keep with the cleaning theme, if a gallon of milk is spilled on the floor, there is a process to go through to clean it up. The first thing you do is stop any more milk from leaking out by setting the gallon jug upright. It seems this presedent, as a first step of cleaning is to turn the gallon jug completely over dumping even more milk out

    There comes a point when you start to realize that the one that is supposed to clean up is not. If you want to hang a 'atta boy' sign on someone, do it to Clinton, at least during his term there was a balanced budget (he at least righted the gallon of milk)

    It seems as though your interested in casting blame... Which doesn't actually clean up anything. I'm not into blaming, I'm into the job of getting someone in the whitehouse that will clean. This current prez isn't cleaning, he is making a bigger mess and needs to be shown the door
     
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    We can start with the fact that there has not been massive deregulation over the last 30 years. There was a burst of deregulation in the late 70s-early 80s and then Gramm Leach under Clinton. Other than that there has been no deregulation.
    Red Tape Rising Regulatory Trends in the Bush Years
    Further, there were certainly boom and bust cycles during and before that time. We had a severe recession in 1973-74 as well as 1982-3.

    Your other points are equally misinformed and stupid.
    You wont last long here.
     
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    You should not post when you are yelling at yourself.
     
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    Stupid is as stupid does, so they tell me.

    If the only rebuttal that you can produce is: "Wow, how stupid are you?" - then I would suggest that you've already lost the debate.

    Better yet, why not try answering the question:

    What have Republicans done since 2000, when they controlled the White House, the Senate and the House, to demonstrate to the American People that they are qualified to claim moral high ground on domestic policy with respect to Economics?

    It is a simple and straight forward question that exposes the hypocrisy in this country and no matter where I go, or to whom I put the question, I never get a straight answer. And, do you want to know why? Because, answering the question straight forwardly would automatically disqualify 100% of the Republican Presidential Candidates to date.

    That's why I never get a straight answer to the above question.

    How stupid am I? How stupid is failing to answer the question, head on?
     

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