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He still lived under Eastern Bloc communism for most of his life. He knows...first hand...what government oppression is. Hell, his father was in the politburo. When the father had to travel, his family was watched even more closely.Bingo. My last fiance was a communist from the Eastern Bloc. He had first-hand knowledge of what oppression is.It's not just American Conservatives saying it, it is Russia, the conservative model Frank and his band of ass lickers of the opulent pine for.
Conservative Russia
People simply do not realize that Russia is a deeply conservative country.
Fiscal policy is buttressed on a low, flat rate of income tax (13%), and there is virtually no social safety net, with spending on unemployment security, medical provision, disability aid, infrastructure, the environment, and urban regeneration far lower, in both absolute terms and as a percentage of GDP, than its G8 contemporaries.
Similarly, military spending is high in comparison and growing medical care is available free in theory, but requires private insurance or additional cash payment in practice, and businesses are in reality pretty un-regulated.
If that doesnt sound to you like a set of policies Newt Gingrich or William F Buckley would support, then you dont know your dyed in the wool conservatives from your woolly jumper wearing liberals.
He thinks the Democrats are horrible. He doesn't think too highly of the GOP, either. Seeing the USA this way makes him sad.
Bingo? Communism is an economic system and soviet bloc countries were totalatarian and communist; today they have evolved and are more democratic and socialist yet participate in the market system as opposed to central planning by a central government.
Russia recognized that communism was a mistake, so does China. They are both rapidly becoming, or already are, free enterprise countries. So, naturally they recognize obama as a failed communist. Now Pravda is telling the truth and the New York Times is a lying political propaganda rag. Liberals ARE communists. It's their entire share the wealth philosophy. Russia is no longer communist, America is rapidly becoming communist. We are becoming communist because of liberal democrats. It's a total reversal of the situation that existed 40 years ago.
You know I believe you're a not too bright partisan hack, so recognizing how futile this attempt will be I will attempt to educate you.
Russian and China are still TOTALITARIAN states; I hope we remain a democratic republic though I suspect we have turned the corner (thanks to the Robert's Court and CU v. FEC) and are now a Plutocracy. All are POLITICAL systems vis a vis Communism and Capitalism which are economic systems.
And the illiterate degenerates have taken over. Just look at JakeStarkey, for example.
Best part:
Recently, Obama has been re-elected for a 2nd term by an illiterate society and he is ready to continue his lies of less taxes while he raises them. He gives speeches of peace and love in the world while he promotes wars as he did in Egypt, Libya and Syria. He plans his next war is with Iran as he fires or demotes his generals who get in the way.
The dumb shlubs don't even know they've been lied to. But the truth is already starting to hit...elimination of tax deductions for student loan interest, reduction in Pell Grants, increases in student loan origination....
The Youth vote voted to screw itself both in terms of economics and liberty. And they will be paying for their years of higher education indoctrination for the rest of their lives.
Russia recognized that communism was a mistake, so does China. They are both rapidly becoming, or already are, free enterprise countries. So, naturally they recognize obama as a failed communist. Now Pravda is telling the truth and the New York Times is a lying political propaganda rag. Liberals ARE communists. It's their entire share the wealth philosophy. Russia is no longer communist, America is rapidly becoming communist. We are becoming communist because of liberal democrats. It's a total reversal of the situation that existed 40 years ago.
You know I believe you're a not too bright partisan hack, so recognizing how futile this attempt will be I will attempt to educate you.
Russian and China are still TOTALITARIAN states; I hope we remain a democratic republic though I suspect we have turned the corner (thanks to the Robert's Court and CU v. FEC) and are now a Plutocracy. All are POLITICAL systems vis a vis Communism and Capitalism which are economic systems.
As the article pointed out, there is more freedom in Russia than here. We are quickly becoming more of a totalitarian state than Russia ever imagined it would be. Russia put people in prison for what they say, but so do we. We are demanding that children wear tracking chips, Russia never went that far. Russia allows public displays of religion, not so here. We are quickly becoming far more of a totalitarian state than ever existed in Russia even under it's most cruel totalitarian dictator.
The complaint of the liberals is, we aren't totalitarian ENOUGH. Only totalitarianism can provide democrats with the freedom they demand to oppress others. Particularly those others who don't agree with them.
Socialism is a prereq. to communism. Neither are "conservative". Neither are "liberal".
What they really are is LOLberal.
Can anyone name a country that has practiced Marxian communism?
Socialism is a prereq. to communism. Neither are "conservative". Neither are "liberal".
What they really are is LOLberal.
A common mistake is to confuse Socialism, the economic system, with Communism, the political system. Communists are "socialist" in the same way that Republicans are "compassionate conservatives". That is, they give lip service to ideals they have no intention of practicing.
Communism, or "scientific socialism", has very little to do with Marx. Communism was originally envisioned by Marx and Engels as the last stages of their socialist revolution. "The meaning of the word communism shifted after 1917, when Vladimir Lenin and his Bolshevik Party seized power in Russia. The Bolsheviks changed their name to the Communist Party and installed a repressive, single-party regime devoted to the implementation of socialist policies." (quote from Encarta.). Those socialist policies were never implemented.
Whereas Marx saw industrialized workers rising up to take over control of their means of production, the exact opposite happened. Most countries that have gone Communist have been agrarian underdeveloped nations. The prime example is the Soviet Union. The best thing to be said about the October Revolution in 1917 is that the new government was better than the Tsars. The worst thing is that they trusted the wrong people, notably Lenin, to lead this upheaval. The Soviet Union officially abandoned socialism in 1921 when Lenin instituted the New Economic Policy allowing for taxation, local trade, some state capitalism... and extreme profiteering. Later that year, he purged 259,000 from the party membership and therefore purged them from voting (shades of the US election of 2000!) and fewer and fewer people were involved in making decisions.
Socialism vs. Communism
Socialism is a prereq. to communism. Neither are "conservative". Neither are "liberal".
What they really are is LOLberal.
A common mistake is to confuse Socialism, the economic system, with Communism, the political system. Communists are "socialist" in the same way that Republicans are "compassionate conservatives". That is, they give lip service to ideals they have no intention of practicing.
Communism, or "scientific socialism", has very little to do with Marx. Communism was originally envisioned by Marx and Engels as the last stages of their socialist revolution. "The meaning of the word communism shifted after 1917, when Vladimir Lenin and his Bolshevik Party seized power in Russia. The Bolsheviks changed their name to the Communist Party and installed a repressive, single-party regime devoted to the implementation of socialist policies." (quote from Encarta.). Those socialist policies were never implemented.
Whereas Marx saw industrialized workers rising up to take over control of their means of production, the exact opposite happened. Most countries that have gone Communist have been agrarian underdeveloped nations. The prime example is the Soviet Union. The best thing to be said about the October Revolution in 1917 is that the new government was better than the Tsars. The worst thing is that they trusted the wrong people, notably Lenin, to lead this upheaval. The Soviet Union officially abandoned socialism in 1921 when Lenin instituted the New Economic Policy allowing for taxation, local trade, some state capitalism... and extreme profiteering. Later that year, he purged 259,000 from the party membership and therefore purged them from voting (shades of the US election of 2000!) and fewer and fewer people were involved in making decisions.
Socialism vs. Communism
Russia recognized that communism was a mistake, so does China. They are both rapidly becoming, or already are, free enterprise countries. So, naturally they recognize obama as a failed communist. Now Pravda is telling the truth and the New York Times is a lying political propaganda rag. Liberals ARE communists. It's their entire share the wealth philosophy. Russia is no longer communist, America is rapidly becoming communist. We are becoming communist because of liberal democrats. It's a total reversal of the situation that existed 40 years ago.
You know I believe you're a not too bright partisan hack, so recognizing how futile this attempt will be I will attempt to educate you.
Russian and China are still TOTALITARIAN states; I hope we remain a democratic republic though I suspect we have turned the corner (thanks to the Robert's Court and CU v. FEC) and are now a Plutocracy. All are POLITICAL systems vis a vis Communism and Capitalism which are economic systems.
As the article pointed out, there is more freedom in Russia than here. We are quickly becoming more of a totalitarian state than Russia ever imagined it would be. Russia put people in prison for what they say, but so do we. We are demanding that children wear tracking chips, Russia never went that far. Russia allows public displays of religion, not so here. We are quickly becoming far more of a totalitarian state than ever existed in Russia even under it's most cruel totalitarian dictator.
The complaint of the liberals is, we aren't totalitarian ENOUGH. Only totalitarianism can provide democrats with the freedom they demand to oppress others. Particularly those others who don't agree with them.
Does anyone else find it extremely odd that house slave conservatives are citing Russian tabloids lately?
Marx wrote the communist manifesto (well, at least little bits where Engels did not.)
Trying to redefine things based on how they unfolded in history vs. what was suppose to happen is a clear indicator of someone who wishes to try a failed idea just one more time. Next time, they will make it work.
You know I believe you're a not too bright partisan hack, so recognizing how futile this attempt will be I will attempt to educate you.
Russian and China are still TOTALITARIAN states; I hope we remain a democratic republic though I suspect we have turned the corner (thanks to the Robert's Court and CU v. FEC) and are now a Plutocracy. All are POLITICAL systems vis a vis Communism and Capitalism which are economic systems.
As the article pointed out, there is more freedom in Russia than here. We are quickly becoming more of a totalitarian state than Russia ever imagined it would be. Russia put people in prison for what they say, but so do we. We are demanding that children wear tracking chips, Russia never went that far. Russia allows public displays of religion, not so here. We are quickly becoming far more of a totalitarian state than ever existed in Russia even under it's most cruel totalitarian dictator.
The complaint of the liberals is, we aren't totalitarian ENOUGH. Only totalitarianism can provide democrats with the freedom they demand to oppress others. Particularly those others who don't agree with them.
Neer thought I'd see the day when the GOP Conz champion Russia's fine example of freedom and liberty.
Who is imprisoned for something they said against the Government?
Who is demanding we have a government program to implant all our children with chips to track them with?
Where are public displays of religion outlawed.
How are the Democrats oppressing um, anyone?
You are confused, Frank. Read the statement in context.
Does anyone else find it extremely odd that house slave conservatives are citing Russian tabloids lately?
I find it terribly odd that they seem to like Russia, Putin and whole post soviet system on this thread but if the topic was nuclear arms reduction they are our greatest threat and to be feared as enemies. Schizo-servatives.
