Pork on the Menu vs Government

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    If the Government or Obama decides that pork is a great menu item and is required for a balanced diet.

    Should the various religions be forced to bypass their faith and doctrines at their various facilities, if they accept government funds.?

    I think it's an invasion of their constitutional rights, myself..

    (Many can say this could never happen but.....are you certain..?)

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    Some religions of the world forbid the eating of pork - the flesh of a pig.

    In some countries around the world, eating meat is taboo. Other countries exhibit differences in their preferences for meat. The Japanese, for example, generally rank beef first, followed by pork, chicken, whale meat, lamb and mutton, goat and horsemeat.

    All 'clean' animals are ruminants. That is they have four stomachs. This ensures a much more thorough processing of food than is possible with one stomach, and less pollutants are stored in the flesh. It has also been discovered that ruminants are not subject to flesh worms. These can be acquired from eating the flesh of almost every other animal. The pig which got special mention as 'unclean' stores poisons in its body fat. A snake cannot kill a pig. The poison is just stored in the fat under the skin and is ingested by anything that subsequently eats that pig. Many outback Australian properties keep pet pigs around the home buildings to deal with snakes which come in plague proportions when the cracks in the ground, where they live, are closed by the swelling of the earth after rainfall.

    The Bible

    In the Bible/Torah/Koran pork has been condemned as unclean. Believers should not eat or even touch the carcass of a pig. Hence, the Target stores employees from Somalia requesting not to have to touch pork at the check out line. I am not going to berate anyone for his or her beliefs. This is a free country. Their qualms, caused me to think, why pork?

    Islam

    Pork has also been added to the list of these prohibitions of Islam. Due to this addition of pork in the Quranic list of prohibitions the Muslims do not eat pork. As far as the reasons for this disallowance or prohibition, the Quran has not clearly explained it. Nevertheless, because the Quran has clearly mentioned that the prohibitions are due to their inherent physical or spiritual uncleanness or due to the negative effects that something may have on the morality of individuals, it may be derived that the reason for the prohibition of pork also belongs to one of the two categories.

    In Islam, The Holy Quran mentions the prohibition of the flesh of swine is at three different places; in chapter 2 verse 173, chapter 6:145 and in chapter 16 verse 115 where God says, "Allah (God) has forbidden you only what dies of itself and blood and the flesh of swine and that over which any other name than that of Allah has been invoked; but whoever is driven to(it), not desiring nor exceeding the limit, then surely Allah is forgiving, merciful." The phrase 'driven to need' also deserves some explanation. In instances such as a famine, when there is nothing else to eat, pork may be eaten just enough to save a life. If a man threatens to kill a Muslim and forces him to eat pork he can eat pork. This may sound strange but numerous incidents involving the above mentioned situations do take place.

    The abstention from eating pork is just one of the steps taken by Islam to practice hygiene and to attain "purity of human nature". The nature of a pig is a very disgusting one. The pig is naturally lazy and indulgent in sex. It dislikes sun-light and lacks the spirit and will to 'fight'. The older it grows, the lazier it gets. It eats almost anything, be it faeces or anything dirty. It prefers dirty places to clean ones. It eats and sleeps only and hates to move around. It is the most avaricious of all domestic animals. Some people argue that the 'modern pig' is given only clean food and therefore its flesh should be consumable. The answer to this argument is this: you feed the pig with wholesome mash but you cannot change its nature. It is still a pig. A pig is not a plant that you can change by bud-grafting.

    Mormons

    The law of health—the Word of Wisdom—contains the laws for proper eating and the rules of abstinence for tobacco, alcohol, coffee, tea, chocolate, and illegal drugs. Mormons must choose foods that build up the body, improve endurance, and enhance intellect. Products from the land, such as grains, fruits, vegetables, and nuts, are to take the place of meats; meats, sugar, cheeses, and spices are to be avoided. Reason and self-control in eating is expected in order to stay healthy.

    Buddhists

    Many Far Eastern traditions also discourage the eating of pork. The 3,000 year old Confucian Book of Rites says, "A gentleman does not eat the flesh of pigs and dogs." Although many Chinese are avid eaters of pork today, physicians of ancient China recognized pork-eating as the root of many human ailments. Buddhists, Jains and Hindus usually avoid eating any kind of meat. Many Buddhists are vegetarians, though some include fish in their diet. Most do not eat meat and abstain from all beef products. The birth, enlightenment, and death of Buddha are the three most commonly recognized festivals for feasting, resting from work, or fasting. Buddhist monks fast completely on certain days of the moon, and they routinely avoid eating any solid foods after the noon hour.

    Pork and Religion
     
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    and just in case you were wondering.....:eusa_angel:

    The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution is also the first section of the Bill of Rights. It is arguably the most important part of the U.S. Constitution, as it guarantees freedoms of religion, speech, writing and publishing, peaceful assembly, and the freedom to raise grievances with the Government. In addition, it requires that a wall of separation be maintained between church and state. It reads:

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

    The First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States
     
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    Oink!
     
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    There are substitues for pork. What's the substitute for insurance?
     
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    Stupidity.
     
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    Jews and vegans have a problem with pork; the later beyond pork.
     
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    If Congress votes to allow the RCC to do as they please, how is that not establishing a religious principle as an exception to U.S. law? You'd be screaming, if it was sharia!
     
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    I think the government should force all vegans to eat meat. It is healthy for them.
     
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    Life is a bitch and then you die. In the mean time lefties have determined that Christians can't engage in traditional stuff like a freaking Christmas tree that they have for a hundred years and in fact Christians are forced by the government to contribute to birth control that is against the tenants of the Church. Force Muslem schools to feed students pork? Why not?
     
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