Pork is unconstitutional

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If Congress would just follow the US Constitution, that they all sworn to uphold, there would be no pork.

If the citizens of Nashville, Tennessee, and the Tennessee legislature, decided that Nashville needed a mass transit system, and the taxpayers of the city and state were willing to fund it, great, but the citizens of Iowa or New York should not have to fund it, because it would be a project for the benefit of the state, or city, not the citizens of the collective states that make up the United States, so it should be funded by the city and state it benefits, not the federal government.

By the same token, the citizens of Tennessee, or Iowa, should not have to fund mass transit in New York.

If we would just read the Federalist Papers, we would find out what the Framers of our Constitution intended.

"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation and foreign commerce. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives and liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement and prosperity of the State." - James Madison, Federalist Paper No. 25, 1788 - considered the 'father of the Constitution'
 
I keep telling you guys and girls to quit reading that pesky US Constitution. It's an outdated document that none of our leaders follow anymore. Next thing you know, they will be taking it out of the textbooks for our school children. Our leaders do whatever they wish to do, Constitution or no Constitution.
 
if the republicans dont regroup and get off this palin bullshit .....it will come and go just as fast as the 2008 elections

That's some good advice... Wish they'd quit spanking the pony.
 
If Congress would just follow the US Constitution, that they all sworn to uphold, there would be no pork.

If the citizens of Nashville, Tennessee, and the Tennessee legislature, decided that Nashville needed a mass transit system, and the taxpayers of the city and state were willing to fund it, great, but the citizens of Iowa or New York should not have to fund it, because it would be a project for the benefit of the state, or city, not the citizens of the collective states that make up the United States, so it should be funded by the city and state it benefits, not the federal government.

By the same token, the citizens of Tennessee, or Iowa, should not have to fund mass transit in New York.

If we would just read the Federalist Papers, we would find out what the Framers of our Constitution intended.

"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation and foreign commerce. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives and liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement and prosperity of the State." - James Madison, Federalist Paper No. 25, 1788 - considered the 'father of the Constitution'

What does the constitution say about lobbyists?
 
If Congress would just follow the US Constitution, that they all sworn to uphold, there would be no pork.

Nonsense.

If the citizens of Nashville, Tennessee, and the Tennessee legislature, decided that Nashville needed a mass transit system, and the taxpayers of the city and state were willing to fund it, great, but the citizens of Iowa or New York should not have to fund it, because it would be a project for the benefit of the state, or city, not the citizens of the collective states that make up the United States, so it should be funded by the city and state it benefits, not the federal government.

You know, if this were the 18th century, I might be inclined to agree with that sentiment

By the same token, the citizens of Tennessee, or Iowa, should not have to fund mass transit in New York.

Nice pun.

If we would just read the Federalist Papers, we would find out what the Framers of our Constitution intended.

Or if we ACTUALLY HAD READ THEM, we'd KNOW that the framers were not of one mind on nearly any issue brought to their attention.

"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation and foreign commerce. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives and liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement and prosperity of the State." - James Madison, Federalist Paper No. 25, 1788 - considered the 'father of the Constitution'

An excellent approach if one happens to live in the 18th century.

Sadly in this world, taking that approach to governance won't have such happy outcomes for the people of any state.
 
If Congress would just follow the US Constitution, that they all sworn to uphold, there would be no pork.

If the citizens of Nashville, Tennessee, and the Tennessee legislature, decided that Nashville needed a mass transit system, and the taxpayers of the city and state were willing to fund it, great, but the citizens of Iowa or New York should not have to fund it, because it would be a project for the benefit of the state, or city, not the citizens of the collective states that make up the United States, so it should be funded by the city and state it benefits, not the federal government.

By the same token, the citizens of Tennessee, or Iowa, should not have to fund mass transit in New York.

If we would just read the Federalist Papers, we would find out what the Framers of our Constitution intended.

"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation and foreign commerce. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives and liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement and prosperity of the State." - James Madison, Federalist Paper No. 25, 1788 - considered the 'father of the Constitution'


Amen brother. I know some people don't like it, for some reason I will NEVER know, but if we followed the constitution we wouldn't be in any of this mess.... It really is that simple... Take away all of the Federal programs that are in the constitution and give that authority to the states.
 
If Congress would just follow the US Constitution, that they all sworn to uphold, there would be no pork.

Nonsense.

If the citizens of Nashville, Tennessee, and the Tennessee legislature, decided that Nashville needed a mass transit system, and the taxpayers of the city and state were willing to fund it, great, but the citizens of Iowa or New York should not have to fund it, because it would be a project for the benefit of the state, or city, not the citizens of the collective states that make up the United States, so it should be funded by the city and state it benefits, not the federal government.

You know, if this were the 18th century, I might be inclined to agree with that sentiment



Nice pun.

If we would just read the Federalist Papers, we would find out what the Framers of our Constitution intended.

Or if we ACTUALLY HAD READ THEM, we'd KNOW that the framers were not of one mind on nearly any issue brought to their attention.

"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation and foreign commerce. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives and liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement and prosperity of the State." - James Madison, Federalist Paper No. 25, 1788 - considered the 'father of the Constitution'

An excellent approach if one happens to live in the 18th century.

Sadly in this world, taking that approach to governance won't have such happy outcomes for the people of any state.

Just for your information, anytime the citizens of this nation want to change the old 18th century Constitution, they can through the amendment process, as they have 27 times in the past, but untill the time it is changed to give Congress additional powers not granted by the present Constitution they are still bound by it as it was written.

Also, if I am not mistaken all members of our Congress swear to uphold that old 18th century document.
 
Bad news for one of my favorite foods...

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If Congress would just follow the US Constitution, that they all sworn to uphold, there would be no pork.

Nonsense.



You know, if this were the 18th century, I might be inclined to agree with that sentiment



Nice pun.



Or if we ACTUALLY HAD READ THEM, we'd KNOW that the framers were not of one mind on nearly any issue brought to their attention.

"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation and foreign commerce. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives and liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement and prosperity of the State." - James Madison, Federalist Paper No. 25, 1788 - considered the 'father of the Constitution'

An excellent approach if one happens to live in the 18th century.

Sadly in this world, taking that approach to governance won't have such happy outcomes for the people of any state.

Just for your information, anytime the citizens of this nation want to change the old 18th century Constitution, they can through the amendment process, as they have 27 times in the past, but untill the time it is changed to give Congress additional powers not granted by the present Constitution they are still bound by it as it was written.

Also, if I am not mistaken all members of our Congress swear to uphold that old 18th century document.
And so did Obama, even though the swearing in was fucked up.
 

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