Popular misconception: Targets of intolerance cannot be intolerant

Discussion in 'Politics' started by manifold, Oct 19, 2009.

  1. manifold
    Offline

    manifold Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2008
    Messages:
    55,788
    Thanks Received:
    8,225
    Trophy Points:
    2,030
    Location:
    your dreams
    Ratings:
    +33,549
    In the current climate of political correctness, I've noticed a widely accepted misconception that popular targets of intolerance couldn't possibly be intolerant themselves. The idea that blacks cannot be racist, women cannot be sexist, queers cannot be bigots, jews cannot be anything but victims of anti-semitism, etc., seems to have found its way into our collective psyche and people accept it without question.

    Now most people will deny that they personally think this way, but en masse, this obviously cannot be true. More likely is that people don't even realize that they think this way. I'm not sure if anything can be done about it, but I'm interested in what others have to say about it.

    Discuss.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  2. rightwinger
    Offline

    rightwinger Award Winning USMB Paid Messageboard Poster Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2009
    Messages:
    143,621
    Thanks Received:
    22,827
    Trophy Points:
    2,190
    Ratings:
    +62,068
    I think Chris Rock put it best..
    Life is not fair
    Fat girls are allowed to make fun of skinny girls....but if skinny girls make fun of fat girls, its just plain mean
    Short people can make fun of tall people...but if tall people make fun of short people, its just plain mean
    Poor people can make fun of rich people....but if rich people make fun of poor people, its just plain mean
     
  3. manifold
    Offline

    manifold Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2008
    Messages:
    55,788
    Thanks Received:
    8,225
    Trophy Points:
    2,030
    Location:
    your dreams
    Ratings:
    +33,549
    "Making fun of..." and "being intolerant of..." are two very different things.
     
  4. RodISHI
    Offline

    RodISHI Gold Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2008
    Messages:
    16,804
    Thanks Received:
    4,415
    Trophy Points:
    280
    Ratings:
    +11,125
    Push for more progressive political correctness that should cover it.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  5. Dr.Traveler
    Offline

    Dr.Traveler Mathematician

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2009
    Messages:
    3,952
    Thanks Received:
    652
    Trophy Points:
    190
    Ratings:
    +1,055
    Folks with a knowledge of history know the oppressed always become the oppressors.

    Take a look at the Roman Empire. Christians were severly persecuted for a long period of time. Christians were blamed for anything and everything that went wrong and subjected to terrible inhuman fates.

    However, once a few Emperors converted the Christians themselves found that they now had the political power. Remembering how they were themselves oppressed, they decided to take steps to ensure it would Never Again happen to them (the bold part is often the rally cry of the oppressed). They closed "pagan worship" centers such as Plato's Academy and attacked pagan leaders such as Hypatia (who was assassinated by a Christian Mob that cut her to pieces with sharpened clay shards and shells).

    The same thing is happening in Israel today, though saying it isn't very popular. After the Holocaust, Jewish leaders vowed Never Again, and as such have instituted some pretty extreme policies on the Palestinian population to ensure their continued survival.

    Never Again is always the rally cry of the oppressed, but it often becomes the justification for the oppressor.
     
    Last edited: Oct 19, 2009
  6. xsited1
    Offline

    xsited1 Agent P

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    17,750
    Thanks Received:
    5,291
    Trophy Points:
    198
    Location:
    Little Rock, AR
    Ratings:
    +5,303
    I think there are more people who see through this political correctness BS than you think. However, there are some groups who cling to being PC like it's a religion. I doubt anything can be done for these people.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  7. manifold
    Offline

    manifold Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2008
    Messages:
    55,788
    Thanks Received:
    8,225
    Trophy Points:
    2,030
    Location:
    your dreams
    Ratings:
    +33,549
    Perhaps, but Shogun doesn't count. He's just an ineffectual internet tough guy. :cool:
     
  8. nodoginnafight
    Offline

    nodoginnafight No Party Affiliation

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2008
    Messages:
    11,755
    Thanks Received:
    1,069
    Trophy Points:
    175
    Location:
    Georgia
    Ratings:
    +1,498
    Very good point.
     
  9. DiamondDave
    Offline

    DiamondDave Army Vet

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    18,169
    Thanks Received:
    2,811
    Trophy Points:
    183
    Location:
    MD, on the Potomac River
    Ratings:
    +2,819
    Tolerance and acceptance are also 2 entirely different things
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  10. Ravi
    Offline

    Ravi Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2008
    Messages:
    87,024
    Thanks Received:
    13,394
    Trophy Points:
    2,205
    Location:
    Hating Hatters
    Ratings:
    +37,802
    I don't think it is true, it is just another one of those silly conventional wisdom disconnects.
     

Share This Page