Pope Francis is a complete idiot

[beagle9]

Top Muslim cleric from IRAN praises Pope Francis for saying it is wrong to identify Islam with violence | Pamela Geller

Shirazi is a Muslim cleric. He knows what is in the Qur’an. He knows the Pope is wrong. But he also knows the Pope is useful to help deceive the West and keep non-Muslims complacent in the face of the advancing jihad.

Yep, it's the old 'good Islam fantasy' and dummies around the free world are buyin' it. This is why there will never be an end to Islamic terrorism. We can't even identify the enemy.

Did the Pope say jihad and Islamic terrorists are OK? No. He just said the other billion Muslims practicing their faith and minding to their daily affairs are not violent.

. Is he sure about the number of non-violent amongst them, and if not then it is a problem for the ones who come in contact with even one who decides to take the Quran at it's literal interpretations, and uses it to go radical. The only way to trust, is by those who are peaceful, to then call out the ones who are violent in so that we may know them as just that. The problem has been, (but might be getting better), is that the Muslims were silent for to long when bad things happened, just like the blacks had adopted the idea of if they tell on another black who is doing something wrong, that they were selling their people out to their supposed enemy here. There was this no snitching policy or ideology going on amongst a large portion of these different groups, and it is because they see themselves as second class citizens who are subject to be exploited or abused if they don't protect themselves as a strong group found within the numbers in these ways. One it is about protecting culture and beliefs, when in others it's about protecting what they see as the purity of their religion against what they feel is under attack maybe by another religion or religions.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Catholics love to be loved.

Only to a certain extent. Then, trouble, or as better known, "REFORMATION" starts.

Happened with Luther and Calvin.

Seeing the last two popes, it is about to happen again, and soon.

BTW, the Papacy lost its significance when Pope John Paul II died. Similarly, American Presidency lost its significance when Ronald Reagan died.

Successors to both have been nothing but incompetent shmucks.

Unfortunately true, though in the case of Pope Benedict, I think he stepped down because he was losing his mind. This current Pope doesn't recognize evil in his day the way John Paul II did and therefore the Church is not in a position to oppose it. It's quite sad, but I'm not Catholic because of our Pope and I know in the end, this too shall pass.

 

[beagle9]

So the Muslim dude I work with is going to kill me? Am I supposed to kill him because he is "evil"?

Watch your back, Jack.

^Doesn't understand that people from other religions can be peaceful and wants me to be at war with him and judge him. The exact thing Jesus would not want.

Anyone "can" be peaceful. Even Satan can be peaceful but he isn't because of his beliefs and teachings.

Much like Islam. Which is exactly why Islam needs a reformation to today's world. Just like Christianity has done.

Islam needs to evolve to today's world. It's not the 500's any longer

. Do they need to evolve or is it that we have gone to far, and therefore our enemies will be coming out the woodworks like aunts before to long ? Makes one wonder what or why is this world becoming so volital again ? Are we trying to be so inclusive to the point of helping our enemies get as close to us as possible now ? Is globalism going to become our downfall soon enough ? Is our fast track upon abandoning God going to bring his wrath against us ? We got some serious questions to ponder, and some serious thinking to do as individuals or as a nation that should be united. Did Islam come to us or did we go to them ? Since world war two, what has become of our unity and beliefs that we had in God and country ? Where has it all gone wrong, and who is responsible ? The blacks have no problem with going back to slavery (hundreds of years), in order to blame whites for their problems today, so why can't Americans go back 50 years, and find out what has caused this nation to slip so badly up until today ?

On two questions that you brought up....

1. Do they need to evolve?

Unless you are cool with female gentile mutiliation, rape, child marriages, forcing women to not speak unless given permission by the husband, forcing women To only show their eyes. And I could easily go on .....

2. Have we gone too far?

Has women's rights gone too far for you?
Being against pedophilia?
Being against Domestic Violence?

. Your cherry picking as a set up is duly noted... Won't play your game, so do try something better maybe, instead of waisting your time like this.

 

[Brynmr]

Yep, we can't have people like the Pope going around destroying all your simplistic arguments now can we?

If you'd like to show us all what exactly is simplistic about my arguments, be my guest. Until then, just another 'straw man' argument from an ignorant Leftie.

 

[Brynmr]

OP wants to talk "idiot" and then quotes ---------------------------------- Pam Geller.

Can't make this shit up.

Only to someone bending over for Islam would that make a bit of sense.

 

[jillian]

Never liked this Pope, because he is an idiot.

You mean you don't like him because he's a decent human being.

 

[Brynmr]

Top Muslim cleric from IRAN praises Pope Francis for saying it is wrong to identify Islam with violence | Pamela Geller

Shirazi is a Muslim cleric. He knows what is in the Qur’an. He knows the Pope is wrong. But he also knows the Pope is useful to help deceive the West and keep non-Muslims complacent in the face of the advancing jihad.

Yep, it's the old 'good Islam fantasy' and dummies around the free world are buyin' it. This is why there will never be an end to Islamic terrorism. We can't even identify the enemy.

I'm Catholic. I have to put up with this senile socialist twit.

I've heard this from Catholic relatives. My condolences.

 

[Brynmr]

Never liked this Pope, because he is an idiot.

You mean you don't like him because he's a decent human being.

He may be that but the 2 are not mutually exclusive.

 

[Brynmr]

Dang, the Pope can't even catch a break from conservatives.

I'm not a Christian.

 

[Brynmr]

OP wants to talk "idiot" and then quotes ---------------------------------- Pam Geller.

Can't make this shit up.

One of the, bended-over. LOL

 

[Brynmr]

Yeah the pope should demonize people of other religions as all being violent terrorists because that's what responsible religious leaders should do to encourage peace.

No, just not present falsehoods.

 

[Brynmr]

Dang, the Pope can't even catch a break from conservatives.

Conservatives Christians seem to hate every religion that isn't theirs, even branches of Christianity that don't fit their worldview like Catholicism. They are like a cult.

I'm not a Christian.

 

[jillian]

Never liked this Pope, because he is an idiot.

You mean you don't like him because he's a decent human being.

He may be that but the 2 are not mutually exclusive.

True. But in this case the o/p hates the pope's humanity. To me, and admittedly I'm not catholic, what the pope *should* be is decent. That the o/p resents his egalitarianism, and somehow thinks that he should be a judgmental bigot, certainly doesn't make the pope an idiot in any way.

Really, shouldn't we want him to be kind and spread messages of love and humanity?

 

[Brynmr]

Yeah the pope should demonize people of other religions as all being violent terrorists because that's what responsible religious leaders should do to encourage peace.

When leaders are afraid or unwilling to call out evil by name then they become cowards.

Labeling a whole religion as evil is stupid and will start a world war. Should all Catholics be labelled as evil because of the sex scandals of their priests?

Islam is evil.

So the Muslim dude I work with is going to kill me? Am I supposed to kill him because he is "evil"?

No, your mommy's going to kill you in your sleep to atone for bringing such an idiot into the world.

 

[JoeMoma]

I do not like this pope at all. He spends too much time playing politics in the headlines instead of getting the word out about God and making us better Catholics.

What about all the preachers and ministers who are injecting politics into their sermons and have been since 2011? Are you against them as well because they spend as much time in politics as they do in religion?

Like Rev. Al Sharpton and Rev. Jesse Jackson

The preachers I know rarely inject politics into their sermons.

 

[jillian]

I do not like this pope at all. He spends too much time playing politics in the headlines instead of getting the word out about God and making us better Catholics.

What about all the preachers and ministers who are injecting politics into their sermons and have been since 2011? Are you against them as well because they spend as much time in politics as they do in religion?

Like Rev. Al Sharpton and Rev. Jesse Jackson

The preachers I know rarely inject politics into their sermons.

They don't have congregations. But thanks for inserting an irrelevancy into the discussion.

The question is. Is talking about civil rights political or is it a moral obligation. And if a preacher talks about reproductive choice is that political? Or does that preacher see it as not political but as a moral obligation.

For the record, the civil rights movement started in baptist churches and rightfully so

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Never liked this Pope, because he is an idiot.

You mean you don't like him because he's a decent human being.

This may come as a shock to you, but that's not a qualification to be Pope. In fact, all too often, it gets in the way.

 

[Pogo]

OP wants to talk "idiot" and then quotes ---------------------------------- Pam Geller.

Can't make this shit up.

Only to someone bending over for Islam would that make a bit of sense.

Only someone bending over for the Pam Geller and Robert Spencer snake oil sales barkers of the world would be oblivious to how they're being played like a three dollar banjo

 

[jillian]

Never liked this Pope, because he is an idiot.

You mean you don't like him because he's a decent human being.

This may come as a shock to you, but that's not a qualification to be Pope. In fact, all too often, it gets in the way.

Only if your view of dogma is warped

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Never liked this Pope, because he is an idiot.

You mean you don't like him because he's a decent human being.

This may come as a shock to you, but that's not a qualification to be Pope. In fact, all too often, it gets in the way.

Only if your view of dogma is warped

Orthodoxy is the most important trait of any pope, the steadfast commitment to preserve and protect Sacred Tradition. If Pope Francis's "decency" is at loggerheads with this fundamental task, then he's a bad Pope. BTW, John Paul was a decent human being too, but not at the expense of Church teaching.