Polls

[Two Thumbs]

Republicans are finding out real quick their radical policy is un-American and calling everyone else that because they are spoiled brats who think they get what they want. Sorry, you don't. We compromise in America, unlike you.

Really?

ONLY dems comprimise?

what a moran.

Please say something else stewpud for our entertainment.

 

[R.D.]

where do you people get these facts that I keep seeing on your post that people are fed up with the unions and are backing Scott Walkers position. MY GOD DO YOU GUY'S and GALS LIE.

why dont you wait till you see a actual demographics of this poll before you do your nutty crap

Notice no link to one?

He keeps repeating... like Mexican food. Only about 740 polled and the use of actual election numbers to distort the results.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Again, nobody's rights are being stolen. Public unions are a disgrace and do not allow the taxpayer a place at the table.

Unions spend money to get a dem elected, once elected the dem sits down to negotiate said union members pay.

The tax payer is not asked if they want to pay excessive amounts, they are either taxed, of have thier cost of living increased due to borrowing.

Then if the union doesn't get what they demand, everyone is told how great they are and that they have to come out and support them or you are a corprate man.

Imagine, protesting to fuck yourself over.

 

[R.D.]

Again, nobody's rights are being stolen. Public unions are a disgrace and do not allow the taxpayer a place at the table.

Jack Welch pointed out the complete moronic stance of Politicians playing the pro puplic union card.
Unions = workers rights -vs- Gov't = management, d'oh


It's all about votes and union leaders job security. How is the middle class liberal too dumb to make this connection?

 

[Mini 14]

Americans oppose weakening the bargaining rights of public employee unions by a margin of nearly two to one: 60 percent to 33 percent. While a slim majority of Republicans favored taking away some bargaining rights, they were outnumbered by large majorities of Democrats and independents who said they opposed weakening them.

Those surveyed said they opposed, 56 percent to 37 percent, cutting the pay or benefits of public employees to reduce deficits, breaking down along similar party lines. A majority of respondents who have no union members living in their households opposed both cuts in pay or benefits and taking away the collective bargaining rights of public employees.

Governors in both parties have been making the case that public workers are either overpaid or have overly generous health and pension benefits. But 61 percent of those polled — including just over half of Republicans — said they thought the salaries and benefits of most public employees were either “about right” or “too low” for the work they do.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/01/us/01poll.html?src=me

But if you read down to the seventh paragraph of the story, which is on page 17, not page 1, an answer emerges:

The nationwide telephone poll was conducted Feb. 24-27 with 984 adults and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points for all adults. Of those surveyed, 20 percent said there was a union member in their household, and 25 percent said there was a public employee in their household.

Although less than 12 percent of the workforce is unionized today, 20 percent of the households in the survey had a union member. Although government workers are 17 percent of the workforce, 25 percent of the households surveyed had one living there. In other words, the sample was wildly skewed toward the very people most likely to give the answers the Times was hoping to hear.

A Shoddy New York Times Poll « Commentary Magazine

 

[Stephanie]

LOL, yeah right.
The people don't mind that the Unions and their PUBLIC EMPLOYEES are screwing the TAXPAYERS.

and they want us to believe this shit.

Fancy a nyslimes POLL calling it for the Unions.

The week before there was a Rasmussen poll posted AGAINST the Unions and that was POOED POOED immediately by the lefties as not being LEGITIMATE.

you gotta laugh at them.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Americans oppose weakening the bargaining rights of public employee unions by a margin of nearly two to one: 60 percent to 33 percent. While a slim majority of Republicans favored taking away some bargaining rights, they were outnumbered by large majorities of Democrats and independents who said they opposed weakening them.

Those surveyed said they opposed, 56 percent to 37 percent, cutting the pay or benefits of public employees to reduce deficits, breaking down along similar party lines. A majority of respondents who have no union members living in their households opposed both cuts in pay or benefits and taking away the collective bargaining rights of public employees.

Governors in both parties have been making the case that public workers are either overpaid or have overly generous health and pension benefits. But 61 percent of those polled — including just over half of Republicans — said they thought the salaries and benefits of most public employees were either “about right” or “too low” for the work they do.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/01/us/01poll.html?src=me

But if you read down to the seventh paragraph of the story, which is on page 17, not page 1, an answer emerges:


The nationwide telephone poll was conducted Feb. 24-27 with 984 adults and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points for all adults. Of those surveyed, 20 percent said there was a union member in their household, and 25 percent said there was a public employee in their household.


Although less than 12 percent of the workforce is unionized today, 20 percent of the households in the survey had a union member. Although government workers are 17 percent of the workforce, 25 percent of the households surveyed had one living there. In other words, the sample was wildly skewed toward the very people most likely to give the answers the Times was hoping to hear.


A Shoddy New York Times Poll « Commentary Magazine

Great finds like thist (page 17?! Holy shit, get a hobby) lead me to think we need a super rep button.

Iwillreturntorepyouagain

 

[NYcarbineer]

Again, nobody's rights are being stolen. Public unions are a disgrace and do not allow the taxpayer a place at the table.

The taxpayers of Wisconsin don't get a place at the table? Then how did Governor Walker get a place at the table?

...and why do you support him wanting to deny the union workers a place at that table?

 

[NYcarbineer]

LOL, yeah right.
The people don't mind that the Unions and their PUBLIC EMPLOYEES are screwing the TAXPAYERS.

and they want us to believe this shit.

Fancy a nyslimes POLL calling it for the Unions.

The week before there was a Rasmussen poll posted AGAINST the Unions and that was POOED POOED immediately by the lefties as not being LEGITIMATE.

you gotta laugh at them.

Do you think an average of all polls on the issue would be a relatively accurate measure of public opinion?

 

[Mini 14]

LOL, yeah right.
The people don't mind that the Unions and their PUBLIC EMPLOYEES are screwing the TAXPAYERS.

and they want us to believe this shit.

Fancy a nyslimes POLL calling it for the Unions.

The week before there was a Rasmussen poll posted AGAINST the Unions and that was POOED POOED immediately by the lefties as not being LEGITIMATE.

you gotta laugh at them.

Do you think an average of all polls on the issue would be a relatively accurate measure of public opinion?

I do not.

Polls are an art, not a Science.

A vote is the only accurate poll.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Again, nobody's rights are being stolen. Public unions are a disgrace and do not allow the taxpayer a place at the table.

The taxpayers of Wisconsin don't get a place at the table? Then how did Governor Walker get a place at the table? He won the election.

...and why do you support him wanting to deny the union workers a place at that table? He's not, you're lying

again

Why do you support the crushing of the middle class by forcing them to live with far less than public union members?

 

[Article 15]

They accepted the financial concessions.

 

[NYcarbineer]

LOL, yeah right.
The people don't mind that the Unions and their PUBLIC EMPLOYEES are screwing the TAXPAYERS.

and they want us to believe this shit.

Fancy a nyslimes POLL calling it for the Unions.

The week before there was a Rasmussen poll posted AGAINST the Unions and that was POOED POOED immediately by the lefties as not being LEGITIMATE.

you gotta laugh at them.

Do you think an average of all polls on the issue would be a relatively accurate measure of public opinion?

I do not.

Polls are an art, not a Science.

A vote is the only accurate poll.

If poll averages aren't accurate, why do the averages of all polls taken about an election, in the last days of a campaign,

almost always have the results to within a few percentage points?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Republicans are finding out real quick their radical policy is un-American and calling everyone else that because they are spoiled brats who think they get what they want. Sorry, you don't. We compromise in America, unlike you.

I'll tell you what is unamerican, Comrade. Unamerican is being forced to pay taxes to your federal, state, and local governments and that tax money being used to pay public employees who in turn hand it over to unions in the form of union dues who then use that money to donate to Democratic candidates to help get them elected. We are being forced to fund the political campaigns of Democrats with our tax dollars. That's crooked and corrupt and THAT, comrade, is what is unamerican.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Again, nobody's rights are being stolen. Public unions are a disgrace and do not allow the taxpayer a place at the table.

The taxpayers of Wisconsin don't get a place at the table? Then how did Governor Walker get a place at the table?

...and why do you support him wanting to deny the union workers a place at that table?

It doesn't matter if it's an R, D, I, behind their name as far as the governor. They're negotiating against the taxpayer and I never will be for that. Private unions, sure.

 

[Mini 14]

If poll averages aren't accurate, why do the averages of all polls taken about an election, in the last days of a campaign,

almost always have the results to within a few percentage points?

See what I did there?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Again, nobody's rights are being stolen. Public unions are a disgrace and do not allow the taxpayer a place at the table.

Unions spend money to get a dem elected, once elected the dem sits down to negotiate said union members pay.

The tax payer is not asked if they want to pay excessive amounts, they are either taxed, of have thier cost of living increased due to borrowing.

Then if the union doesn't get what they demand, everyone is told how great they are and that they have to come out and support them or you are a corprate man.

Imagine, protesting to fuck yourself over.

Yeah, you'd have to live in bizarro world to protest in favor of screwing yourself over. Not to mention, the salaries of the teachers of greater than a lot of the taxpayer salaries. Real special.

 

[Article 15]

Republicans are finding out real quick their radical policy is un-American and calling everyone else that because they are spoiled brats who think they get what they want. Sorry, you don't. We compromise in America, unlike you.

I'll tell you what is unamerican, Comrade. Unamerican is being forced to pay taxes to your federal, state, and local governments and that tax money being used to pay public employees who in turn hand it over to unions in the form of union dues who then use that money to donate to Democratic candidates to help get them elected. We are being forced to fund the political campaigns of Democrats with our tax dollars. That's crooked and corrupt and THAT, comrade, is what is unamerican.

This is a pretty arrogant post.

Who are you to say what these people do with their money?

 

[Avatar4321]

Again, nobody's rights are being stolen. Public unions are a disgrace and do not allow the taxpayer a place at the table.

Jack Welch pointed out the complete moronic stance of Politicians playing the pro puplic union card.
Unions = workers rights -vs- Gov't = management, d'oh


It's all about votes and union leaders job security. How is the middle class liberal too dumb to make this connection?

Well, they did join a union...

 

[Avatar4321]

Republicans are finding out real quick their radical policy is un-American and calling everyone else that because they are spoiled brats who think they get what they want. Sorry, you don't. We compromise in America, unlike you.

I'll tell you what is unamerican, Comrade. Unamerican is being forced to pay taxes to your federal, state, and local governments and that tax money being used to pay public employees who in turn hand it over to unions in the form of union dues who then use that money to donate to Democratic candidates to help get them elected. We are being forced to fund the political campaigns of Democrats with our tax dollars. That's crooked and corrupt and THAT, comrade, is what is unamerican.

This is a pretty arrogant post.

Who are you to say what these people do with their money?

Actually, you have it backwards. it's pretty arrogant of yo. Who are you to say that these people have to be FORCED to support certain political candidates.

This whole thing is political. It's Democrat politicians caring more about their political donations than the people of the state they were to serve. This is precisely why public unions are wrong. Because they colluded with corrupt politicians to screw the people.