Poll: Would you marry someone in order to work undercover against a family member?

Would you marry someone in order to work undercover against a family member?

  • No, that's creepy and an unethical sin

    Votes: 8 80.0%
  • Yes, that's good policing

    Votes: 2 20.0%

  • Total voters
    10
  • Poll closed .

shockedcanadian

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These tactics have been and continue to be used in some countries. I'm not sure if it is used in America, but, if it were, what are your feelings on this method?
 
Only if the wifey is really hot!

JKing.

That is taking a job to an extreme.
 
Only if the wifey is really hot!

JKing.

That is taking a job to an extreme.


MET police in London have an interesting history. That is the system we in Canada adopted at the municipal, along with the Stasi at a broader, systemic level.

Some feel it is "any means necessary" to have control. Family members, workplaces, relationships, ones money/resources/opportunity. If anyone believes that it is good policing to use these methods, I'd love the discussion. Who knows? Maybe I can be convinced otherwise.
 
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If I were to truly fall for the person that I got married to, sure. If the person my other half was trying to put away was into something bad enough, yeah I would do my part in seeing to it that they didn't get away with it any longer. Maybe my other half were to love me enough to make sure that I was no longer in any danger.

God bless you always!!!

Holly
 
These tactics have been and continue to be used in some countries. I'm not sure if it is used in America, but, if it were, what are your feelings on this method?

First of all NO I would not encourage or want to engage in any marriage fraud.
If someone put me in a life/death situation, like marry this person or we're going to kill
I might appease that person to try to work around what is causing such a threat.

Secondly, instead of "working against a family member"
I would seek ways to help that person come forward and work with authorities
to correct whatever problem is going on. Whenever crime, abuse or corruption
is going on, something is wrong with the relationships. So if you address and
resolve whatever is going wrong, then all the other problems will work themselves out.

Again, only if someone is in danger of life and death would I consider
doing something "under the table" if that's the only way to get people out of danger to a safer place.

Can you spell out a situation where this is necessary for life/death shockedcanadian?
 
These tactics have been and continue to be used in some countries. I'm not sure if it is used in America, but, if it were, what are your feelings on this method?

First of all NO I would not encourage or want to engage in any marriage fraud.
If someone put me in a life/death situation, like marry this person or we're going to kill
I might appease that person to try to work around what is causing such a threat.

Secondly, instead of "working against a family member"
I would seek ways to help that person come forward and work with authorities
to correct whatever problem is going on. Whenever crime, abuse or corruption
is going on, something is wrong with the relationships. So if you address and
resolve whatever is going wrong, then all the other problems will work themselves out.

Again, only if someone is in danger of life and death would I consider
doing something "under the table" if that's the only way to get people out of danger to a safer place.

Can you spell out a situation where this is necessary for life/death shockedcanadian?


Essentially, from what I remember, Canadian police either had an undercover (more than one if I recall) marry into a family, and/or recruited from within the family in order to target a specific citizen. Again from what I remember, this former cop stated that it is more common than Canadians know.

Similar to the book I read about a former spy who stated in the foreword of his book "what I write in here could cause my demise", speaking about the Five Eyes network, this guy basically stated the same.

I'm familiar with Canadian tactics, few of them principled, many of them creepy and sycophant in nature. I recall feeling disturbed reading all of it.

To put into perspective, one of your early Secretary of State (Stimson, 1929 or so) said of spying, "gentleman do not read other peoples mail". Maybe he was idealistic or naive, but regardless, one wonders what he would say about cops recruiting family members or even having real or fake relations.

The MET in England were called out for this, with little consequence, exposed in the book:
Undercover: The True Story of Britain's Secret Police.

Read that book and you will be floored, and there is much more not exposed. Cops having relationships, even impregnating their targets and family members. British police covering it up (sick f's).

Canada is well in line with these tactics, absolutely decimating our already weak society fabric/economy, destroying relations with nations we say are allies (such as America) but for which we share much less in common from a human right and State perspective than anyone would admit.

I remind you all, "THIS" is socialism...so, how far is too far?
 
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