POLL: Which scenario spreads racism more quickly?

[Natural Citizen]

I actually don’t know the answer bc I’m not aware of the thought processes of actual racists..

Racism is just a nasty form of collectivism. Collectivism is the midset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than as Individuals. Racists, much like collectivists, encourage people to adopt a group mentality. Racists, like collectivists, believe that all Individuals who share superficial characteristics are alike.

Now. Because Racists, much like collectivists, constantly encourage people to adopt a group mentality, it is generally the proponents of diversity who perpetuate racism/collectivism because the extreme focus that they have on race is itself racist.

Consider yourself ahead of 90% of the curve now.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Tell me which scenario will spread racism more quickly, which scenario will recruit more racists, and why, please:

Scenario 1
22 mouth-breathing, ignorant racists gather at Town Square to chant ignorant, shallow racist talking points. No one gives a shit. No media shows up, no protestors show up. A few tourists laugh and take pictures as if they're seeing monkeys at a zoo. The dummies get bored after 40 minutes of chanting and go home.

Scenario 2
22 mouth-breathing, ignorant racists gather at Town Square to chant ignorant, shallow racist talking points. The press descends on the area, actually outnumbering the actual mouth-breathing, ignorant racists six to one. Three different left wing groups arrive to hold up signs and scream. Several scuffles break out, with the press desperately trying to get good shots for the evening news. 11 people are injured, six of them the mouth-breathers, two of whom have to go to the hospital for stitches. The fights are recorded and go viral online. MSNBC and CNN hold a multitude of "panel discussions" that include four left wingers and one right winger, discussing how the 22 racists are making America worse.

So. Which scenario is more likely to spread racism and recruit more racists?

Or do you even care?
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1 didn't do much to spread racism for 50 years, so to gin up hate and division, the dnc gave orders and the media hopped to it

 

[Olde Europe]

I'm looking for someone to engage on the bullshit theory that media coverage and counterprotesters showing up to oppose white supremacists creates new racists.

I think you and I agree that it does not.

I wish I had your certainty.

Assume a calm, disciplined demonstration by racists, attacked by ill-groomed, violent, inarticulate counter-protesters. That may not exactly create "new racists", but ...

That's not what happens. That's a RW fantasy.

Still, that would not compel a person to turn into a hateful bigot.

1. How can you know it never happened?

2. Even if it never happened, it doesn't demonstrate it won't happen in the future.

3. What I described above is exactly the narrative the right-wingers are trying to create right now. In case the mainstream media stopped covering the racists' events, they are free to spread the tale unopposed.

And no, it probably won't create hateful bigots, but it may encourage hateful bigots to act on their bigotry.

 

[JoeB131]

So. Which scenario is more likely to spread racism and recruit more racists?

Or do you even care?

Oh, Stormy Mac, are you upset that being a racist isn't as cool as it used to be?

Here's what spreads racism... ignoring it and denying it is there. Squealing about "Political Correctness" and "The Regressive Left" when decent people challenge it. Snivelling and whining like a little bitch when the intellectual enablers of racism like Coulter or Heather McDonald find they are persona non grata at institutes of learning.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Of course, there's a case to be made that racism is a problem. It always has been.

Those who generally speak about it out in the wild in places like this and elsewhere on the web aren't generally good representatives for solving the problem. More often than not, they tend to perpetuate racism and hate speech.

 

[JoeB131]

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1 didn't do much to spread racism for 50 years, so to gin up hate and division, the dnc gave orders and the media hopped to it

Fifty years ago, you didn't have the internet allowing these mutant to network.

Fifty years ago, we had the Chicago Nazi Party, who won the right to march in Skokie because the ACLU is stupid.

Except that they didn't have the ability to recruit on the internet, so they never had more than a handful of members. So eventually, they outed their leader as a self-hating Jew who like kiddy porn, and that was it for them.

 

[Two Thumbs]

2

1 didn't do much to spread racism for 50 years, so to gin up hate and division, the dnc gave orders and the media hopped to it

Fifty years ago, you didn't have the internet allowing these mutant to network.

Fifty years ago, we had the Chicago Nazi Party, who won the right to march in Skokie because the ACLU is stupid.

Except that they didn't have the ability to recruit on the internet, so they never had more than a handful of members. So eventually, they outed their leader as a self-hating Jew who like kiddy porn, and that was it for them.

the impact of the internet increased the number of Nazis and kkk members by what?

1%, maybe 2%

it's been the media focusing on these retards, and we both know it, only I can admit it.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Data from the Southern Poverty Law Center suggests the number of hate groups is currently near the country’s all-time recorded high, in 2011. The SPLC reports that as of 2016, there are 917 active groups. (That’s 100 fewer than the 1,108 groups reported in 2011.) The SPLC’s hate map identifies groups by tracking their publications and websites. Of those 917, more than 90 are neo-Nazi groups. California has the highest number with 79, followed by Florida with 63 and Texas with 55.

 

[JoeB131]

the impact of the internet increased the number of Nazis and kkk members by what?

1%, maybe 2%

it's been the media focusing on these retards, and we both know it, only I can admit it.

Five ways hate speech spreads online - CNN

The internet makes it easier for these groups to raise money, find new recruits and produce fake news that dumb people eat up.

More importantly, it allows these people to feed off of each other, as opposed to Real Life, where this sort of thing just got you dirty looks and maybe a trip down to HR.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Data from the Southern Poverty Law Center suggests the number of hate groups is currently near the country’s all-time recorded high, in 2011. The SPLC reports that as of 2016, there are 917 active groups. (That’s 100 fewer than the 1,108 groups reported in 2011.) The SPLC’s hate map identifies groups by tracking their publications and websites. Of those 917, more than 90 are neo-Nazi groups. California has the highest number with 79, followed by Florida with 63 and Texas with 55.

Southern Poverty Law Center should be listed as a hate group.

 

[Two Thumbs]

the impact of the internet increased the number of Nazis and kkk members by what?

1%, maybe 2%

it's been the media focusing on these retards, and we both know it, only I can admit it.

Five ways hate speech spreads online - CNN

The internet makes it easier for these groups to raise money, find new recruits and produce fake news that dumb people eat up.

More importantly, it allows these people to feed off of each other, as opposed to Real Life, where this sort of thing just got you dirty looks and maybe a trip down to HR.

cnn

 

[JoeB131]

cnn

I know it isn't the Daily Stormer where you get all your news and you think things are just fine.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Data from the Southern Poverty Law Center suggests the number of hate groups is currently near the country’s all-time recorded high, in 2011. The SPLC reports that as of 2016, there are 917 active groups. (That’s 100 fewer than the 1,108 groups reported in 2011.) The SPLC’s hate map identifies groups by tracking their publications and websites. Of those 917, more than 90 are neo-Nazi groups. California has the highest number with 79, followed by Florida with 63 and Texas with 55.

Southern Poverty Law Center should be listed as a hate group.

It is a hate group, but leftists wouldn't accept the facts if I didn't choose a leftist outlet.

 

[Two Thumbs]

cnn

I know it isn't the Daily Stormer where you get all your news and you think things are just fine.

I listen to npr, bbc, c-span and pbs.


I know exactly how fucking stooped you leftists are and how much you just know that 40% of the nation is racists Nazis just waiting to put on robes.

 

[JoeB131]

I listen to npr, bbc, c-span and pbs.


I know exactly how fucking stooped you leftists are and how much you just know that 40% of the nation is racists Nazis just waiting to put on robes.

Oh, I don't think that at all.

I think that 40% of the nation is in denial about racism. I think there are a lot of otherwise decent folks who know what Trump is and what he is encouraging, but as long as they get their tax cuts and deregulation, they don't care.

That and no one ever told them the tale of "Franz von Papen"... it's kind of sad.

 

[Olde Europe]

Racists, like collectivists, believe that all Individuals who share superficial characteristics are alike.

[...] it is generally the proponents of diversity who perpetuate racism/collectivism because the extreme focus that they have on race is itself racist.

But you know - just know - proponents of diversity are all the same, right?

 

[Two Thumbs]

I listen to npr, bbc, c-span and pbs.


I know exactly how fucking stooped you leftists are and how much you just know that 40% of the nation is racists Nazis just waiting to put on robes.

Oh, I don't think that at all.

I think that 40% of the nation is in denial about racism. I think there are a lot of otherwise decent folks who know what Trump is and what he is encouraging, but as long as they get their tax cuts and deregulation, they don't care.

That and no one ever told them the tale of "Franz von Papen"... it's kind of sad.

the childish nonsense of calling everyone not you, a Nazi.


you lose the internet

 

[Natural Citizen]

But you know - just know - proponents of diversity are all the same, right?

As I said, it is generally the proponents of diversity who perpetuate racism/collectivism.

Generally does not indicate all. Which is why I chose to use that particular language in my statement.

 

[Olde Europe]

But you know - just know - proponents of diversity are all the same, right?

As I said, it is generally the proponents of diversity who perpetuate racism/collectivism.

Generally does not indicate all. Which is why I chose to use that particular language in my statement.

Nice weasel you got there.

"the extreme focus that they [proponents of diversity] have on race is itself racist."

And that's not even beginning to address the discombobulated nonsense, like accusing proponents of diversity of perpetuating collectivism. Because, one has to presume, diversity and collectivism are somewhat synonymous, right?

But hey, no pretzel is too twisted if it gets you the conclusion you prefer, right?

 

[Natural Citizen]

Nice weasel you got there.

"the extreme focus that they [proponents of diversity] have on race is itself racist."

And that's not even beginning to address the discombobulated nonsense, like accusing proponents of diversity of perpetuating collectivism. Because, one has to presume, diversity and collectivism are somewhat synonymous, right?

But hey, no pretzel is too twisted if it gets you the conclusion you prefer, right?

Well, you're in luck, Old Europe. I'm in the mood to learn today. And I do thoroughly enjoy learning. It's one of my favorite things to do.

Teach us the difference between collectivism and racism. Show us your wisdom. If you believe my assessment was incorrect, then, how so? And why? Explain, please.

Thanks!