Poll Shows Dems Do Believe War Is Lost

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    IBD/TIPP Poll: War Is Not Lost, And Victory Is Important
    Posted: Monday, May 14, 2007 4:30 PM PT

    Contrary to the assessment of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, most Americans surveyed in the latest IBD/TIPP Poll do not believe the U.S. has lost the war in Iraq.

    In fact, they believe the war is winnable and that victory is important. They are not against a timetable for withdrawal, but feel stabilization of the country should come first. They also believe that conduct of war should be left to generals, not Congress, and Congress' war authorization should not be repealed.


    61% say VICTORY in Iraq is important to them

    To see the poll

    http://www.ibdeditorials.com/Polls.aspx?id=264036858199701
     
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    "In fact, they believe the war is winnable and that victory is important"

    bullshit. no question in that poll asks if the war is winnable


    "They are not against a timetable for withdrawal"

    ... actually, they are FOR it. In fact.... the question reads:


    which of the following must be a higher overall priority for the US: Winning in Iraq or Immediate Troop Withdrawal?.
    the scores were
    Winning in Iraq: 42%
    Immediate Withdrawal: 47%
    Not sure: 11%


    Additionally, another question from that poll asks:

    Would you say setting a deadline for troop withdrawal is setting a deadline for failure?
    the scores were:

    Disagreee strongly: 32%
    Disagree somewhat 22%
    Not sure 3%
    Agree somewhat 13%
    Agree strongly 31%
     
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    Your point is?

    There were 9 questions and 8 of them went against the left
     
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    my point was exactly what I said. there was no question in the poll that asked if the war was winnable, so the editorial comment that led off your little thread is bullshit.

    also...my point was:

    when asked what was more important, withdrawal or victory, more folks said withdrawal than victory.

    and my point was:

    when asked if they agreed that a setting a date for withdrawal was setting a date for failure and folks disageed with that as well.

    now...would you like to address those three points?
     
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    Wrong as usual MM


    The first thing you see when you go to the poll is

    How important is a US victory in Iraq?

    Very or Somewhat important - 61%

    Not important - 33%

    Percent important

    Dems 44%

    Republicnas - 84%
     
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    no. You are wrong again, as usual.

    asking if victory is important is not the same thing as asking if the war is winnable. they are not the same question. My statement was:

    there was no question in the poll that asked if the war was winnable, so the editorial comment that led off your little thread is bullshit.

    Ask the enormously obese man:

    How important is it that you lose lots of weight?

    he says: VERY IMPORTANT


    Ask the same man Do you think you CAN lose weight?

    and, as he crams another twinkie down the old grocery hole, he says : NOT TOO FUCKING LIKELY.

    see the difference?
     
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    Very lame attempt MM

    Almost as lame as saying Dems did not vote to raise taxes

    Dems have no desrie to win the war in Iraq - they see a defeat as a political win. That is much more important to them then wining the war
     
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    It's not fair to use rsr's own link to show that he didn't ACTUALLY read it all... nor is it fair to ask him to use his math skills...

    good job, maineman... good job...
     
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    Ah, another defeatest joins the conversation

    The polls shows the Dems have no desire to win the war - live with it
     
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    the democrats want the troops home alive, you want them in Iraq and in harm's way... when will your insatiable blood lust end?

    when it's your turn to go?
     
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