Poll: More blame Obama for poor economy, unemployment

[Xenophon]

Last week's jubilant signing of the health care overhaul, Obama's signature domestic initiative, seems to have given the president little boost. Instead, his standing on four personal qualities has sagged, and 50% of those surveyed say he doesn't deserve re-election.

Poll: More blame Obama for poor economy, unemployment - USATODAY.com

Maybe you do another gloating tour Barry, that last one helped you sooooooooo much.

 

[saveliberty]

Once again, 0bama's opinion of Americans as stupid, short-term memory sheep is really proving to be a GOOD strategy. From what a read in the poll, sticking with the, its Bush's fault still works.

 

[Xenophon]

I guess Nan was wrong, people didn't like what was in it after it passed.

 

[Jarhead]

26% blaming President Obama says nothing.

26% blamed him before he even took office.

The rest of the poll, however is very telling. Seems the independants are finding out he is not what they thought.

This could be good news for our future as I see it.

 

[Kex]

Of course he gets the blame for economy still being slow, that's the price to pay for presiding over recession period. However when the things turn around he's gonna get the credit too, you watch.

 

[rightwinger]

Ron Reagan shouldered the blame for the economy when he took office too. Reagans approval numbers were around 38% at this point in his presidency compared to 52% for Obama.

In 1984 Reagan ran on a "Are you better off now than you were four years ago" platform

So will Obama

 

[CMike]

Obama is too blame.

He brought it to double digits.

 

[Jarhead]

Of course he gets the blame for economy still being slow, that's the price to pay for presiding over recession period. However when the things turn around he's gonna get the credit too, you watch.

Yes he will. Assuming they turn around soon.

If not, he will get credit for stunting the recovery.

 

[Kex]

Of course he gets the blame for economy still being slow, that's the price to pay for presiding over recession period. However when the things turn around he's gonna get the credit too, you watch.

Yes he will. Assuming they turn around soon.

If not, he will get credit for stunting the recovery.

Republicans better pray for things not improving, otherwise the number of heart attacks in November of 2012 would put a huge burden on newly created health program.

 

[Jarhead]

Of course he gets the blame for economy still being slow, that's the price to pay for presiding over recession period. However when the things turn around he's gonna get the credit too, you watch.

Yes he will. Assuming they turn around soon.

If not, he will get credit for stunting the recovery.

Republicans better pray for things not improving, otherwise the number of heart attacks in November of 2012 would put a huge burden on newly created health program.

LMAO.

Well said.

But then again, you cannot deny that it appeared the democrats seemed to hope the worst in Irag during the last administration.

We need to overhaul our parties if you ask me.

 

[Xenophon]

2012 is not the worry, this year is.

If the GoP takes both houses and things improve, Barry won't get the credit, the line will be the GoP rescued the nation from his partisan over spending ways.

The dems are fucked due to their own mismanagemnt and over reach.

 

[CMike]

Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey


Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Republican White House republican Congress

Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
2000 4.0 4.1 4.0 3.8 4.0 4.0 4.0 4.1 3.9 3.9 3.9 3.9
2001 4.2 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.9 5.0 5.3 5.5 5.7
2002 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 5.8 5.8 5.8 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 6.0
2003 5.8 5.9 5.9 6.0 6.1 6.3 6.2 6.1 6.1 6.0 5.8 5.7
2004 5.7 5.6 5.8 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.5 5.4 5.4 5.5 5.4 5.4
2005 5.3 5.4 5.2 5.2 5.1 5.0 5.0 4.9 5.0 5.0 5.0 4.9
2006 4.7 4.8 4.7 4.7 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4

Republican White House & Democrat Congress

2007 4.6 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.7 5.0
2008 5.0 4.8 5.1 5.0 5.4 5.5 5.8 6.1 6.2 6.6 6.9 7.4

Democrat White House & Democrat Congress

2009 7.7 8.2 8.6 8.9 9.4 9.5 9.4 9.7 9.8 10.1 10.0 10.0
2010 9.7 9.7



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Any questions?

 

[Truthmatters]

What will all of you say if the economy recovers?

I bet you will say Obama gets no credit and the economy revived in SPITE of him.

You will deny its really a recovery and someone is tweeking the numbers.

You will find some twisted way to blame Obama and give the credit to the cons.

You always do.

 

[Kex]

Yes he will. Assuming they turn around soon.

If not, he will get credit for stunting the recovery.

Republicans better pray for things not improving, otherwise the number of heart attacks in November of 2012 would put a huge burden on newly created health program.

LMAO.

Well said.

But then again, you cannot deny that it appeared the democrats seemed to hope the worst in Irag during the last administration.

We need to overhaul our parties if you ask me.

Ehh, you work with whatcha got.

 

[Kex]

Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey


Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Republican White House republican Congress

Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
2000 4.0 4.1 4.0 3.8 4.0 4.0 4.0 4.1 3.9 3.9 3.9 3.9
2001 4.2 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.9 5.0 5.3 5.5 5.7
2002 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 5.8 5.8 5.8 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 6.0
2003 5.8 5.9 5.9 6.0 6.1 6.3 6.2 6.1 6.1 6.0 5.8 5.7
2004 5.7 5.6 5.8 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.5 5.4 5.4 5.5 5.4 5.4
2005 5.3 5.4 5.2 5.2 5.1 5.0 5.0 4.9 5.0 5.0 5.0 4.9
2006 4.7 4.8 4.7 4.7 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4

Republican White House & Democrat Congress

2007 4.6 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.7 5.0
2008 5.0 4.8 5.1 5.0 5.4 5.5 5.8 6.1 6.2 6.6 6.9 7.4

Democrat White House & Democrat Congress

2009 7.7 8.2 8.6 8.9 9.4 9.5 9.4 9.7 9.8 10.1 10.0 10.0
2010 9.7 9.7



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Any questions?

Man, red font for dem/dem really makes the point.

 

[The Rabbi]

What will all of you say if the economy recovers?

I bet you will say Obama gets no credit and the economy revived in SPITE of him.

You will deny its really a recovery and someone is tweeking the numbers.

You will find some twisted way to blame Obama and give the credit to the cons.

You always do.

It is the truth.
Obama has prolonged this recession beyond what it should ever have been. Between massive bail outs for everyone under the sun, huge threatened tax increases, time spent on healthcare, etc etc he has made a mess of this economy.
This should have been a 6 month mild recession. Instead because of government intervention it has become a 2 year colossus.

 

[Jarhead]

What will all of you say if the economy recovers?

I bet you will say Obama gets no credit and the economy revived in SPITE of him.

You will deny its really a recovery and someone is tweeking the numbers.

You will find some twisted way to blame Obama and give the credit to the cons.

You always do.

If you are referring to me, then you are not a very good judge of character.

That is not meant as an insult. Not many people are a good judge of character.

 

[rightwinger]

What will all of you say if the economy recovers?

I bet you will say Obama gets no credit and the economy revived in SPITE of him.

You will deny its really a recovery and someone is tweeking the numbers.

You will find some twisted way to blame Obama and give the credit to the cons.

You always do.

It is the truth.
Obama has prolonged this recession beyond what it should ever have been. Between massive bail outs for everyone under the sun, huge threatened tax increases, time spent on healthcare, etc etc he has made a mess of this economy.
This should have been a 6 month mild recession. Instead because of government intervention it has become a 2 year colossus.

There you have it America......

Worst recession in 70 years and a one year reversal was not fast enough for the resident Republicans. Maybe because it took Republicans 18 months to acknowledge we WERE in a recession.

Yes it "should have been a 6 month mild recession" if Bush had recognized it and taken action earlier

"The Economy is fundamentally strong" J McCain

 

[The Rabbi]

What will all of you say if the economy recovers?

I bet you will say Obama gets no credit and the economy revived in SPITE of him.

You will deny its really a recovery and someone is tweeking the numbers.

You will find some twisted way to blame Obama and give the credit to the cons.

You always do.

It is the truth.
Obama has prolonged this recession beyond what it should ever have been. Between massive bail outs for everyone under the sun, huge threatened tax increases, time spent on healthcare, etc etc he has made a mess of this economy.
This should have been a 6 month mild recession. Instead because of government intervention it has become a 2 year colossus.

There you have it America......

Worst recession in 70 years and a one year reversal was not fast enough for the resident Republicans. Maybe because it took Republicans 18 months to acknowledge we WERE in a recession.

"The Economy is fundamentally strong" J McCain

It became the worst recession in 70 years AFTER Obama took office. ANd because of it.
McCain was right. The economy was fundamentally sound. Mis-steps by the government caused it to go down.

 

[hyakku]

It is the truth.
Obama has prolonged this recession beyond what it should ever have been. Between massive bail outs for everyone under the sun, huge threatened tax increases, time spent on healthcare, etc etc he has made a mess of this economy.
This should have been a 6 month mild recession. Instead because of government intervention it has become a 2 year colossus.

There you have it America......

Worst recession in 70 years and a one year reversal was not fast enough for the resident Republicans. Maybe because it took Republicans 18 months to acknowledge we WERE in a recession.

"The Economy is fundamentally strong" J McCain

It became the worst recession in 70 years AFTER Obama took office. ANd because of it.
McCain was right. The economy was fundamentally sound. Mis-steps by the government caused it to go down.

While this seemingly conventional wisdom sounds plausible, in all actuality, the blame with the current economic system lies not with Obama, or, ironically enough Bush, despite my disdain from him.

This economic crisis was the result of the policies of Reagan and Clinton deregulating key institutions that were designed to ensure these things don't spiral out of control. Their economy was more predictable and stable due to less globalization factors, and there parties were flexible, allowing them to avert this for a good amount of time by having flexible diplomacy.

The faults of Obama and Bush are not that they started this recession, but rather that both parties were unwilling to reinstate some of the key regulation and strengthen some of the existing institutions to shore up the fundamentals of our economic system due to the unpopularity of some of the initial measures required.

But now people realize that complete deregulation of a free market is only possible if you live in a purely capitalist, economically liberal paradigm. That doesn't exist in this world, nor would it ever. I won't possibly discuss why a liberal, capitalist, "pure" democracy couldn't exist in an age where governing is needed to watch so many people, but if you disagree with this then you essentially disagree with reality so I can't really discuss anything with you there.

The conclusion? Like another poster said, it's not to just keep bouncing in between both parties for the lesser evil. It's time for serious overhaul of the parties, an instilling of young, progressive blood for both the conservative and liberal base that really understands key emerging issues, and we need to utilize more of the technological capabilities we have to diffuse information and improve voter education processes so that more people can learn about issues in an unbiased manner and we can get back on track making efficient, beneficial decisions for our nation.