[POLL] - Liberals, how much is a "fair share?" - Taxes

Discussion in 'Politics' started by tooAlive, Jun 1, 2013.

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What's the "fair share?"

  1. I don't know, but I'll keep repeating "fair share" like a parrot.

    6.2%
  2. Progressive taxation is a joke. "Fair share" means the same flat rate for everybody.

    47.8%
  3. 10% - No reason, it's just a pretty number.

    6.2%
  4. 35% - Cause' GWB was the man.

    2.7%
  5. 39.6% - Two words. Clin Ton.

    8.8%
  6. 70% - Because socialism does work. Sorta.

    7.1%
  7. 91% - Communism sucks, but I want to piss rich people off.

    21.2%
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    For 35 years there have been polls on 'what do you think taxes ought to be?' Large majorities have held that the corporations and the wealthy should pay higher taxes.

    Yet taxes have been going down in this same period, and debt has been going up. Our government needs to start listening to the public
     
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    When asked how much a person should pay in taxes, those same people said "10%."

    So much for your claim that people want anyone's taxes raised.
     
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    I think you just made that up.

    However I think I once saw once how if the richest 20% just paid 5% more the bottom 80% would have to pay NO income taxes at all. (to stay revenue neutral). Doing that would greatly simplify the job of the IRS and make a lot of people very happy.
     
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    One out of every four MNCs doesn't pay taxes.
    But that's not the biggest issue if they want Chinese and Indian slave labor both in Asia and as business-visas here in the US.
    The first question is the acceptable quality of infrastructure and it's accompanying costs.
     
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    47% already pay no income taxes, and that has taught them that there is no cost to government. I think that's a bad lesson to teach people. Why shouldn't they all pay taxes?

    Once again the liberal demonstrates beyond all doubt that he supports other people paying taxes, not himself.

    Liberalism is hypocrisy made into an ideology.
     
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    Yawn! In fact, double yawn.
    Once again...
    One out of every four MNCs doesn't pay taxes.
    But that's not the biggest issue if they want Chinese and Indian slave labor both in Asia and as business-visas here in the US.
    The first question is the acceptable quality of infrastructure and it's accompanying costs.
     
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    That's probably because they made no profits. However, this discussion is about individual income taxes, not corporate taxes. The bottom line is that corporations don't pay taxes. Only people pay taxes.

    Huh? Was that supposed to communicate something?

    That vast bulk of taxation goes to pay for transfer payments, not infrastructure, so that claim is a red herring.
     
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    If anything I think this thread has proven that "fair share" is undebatable as there is no true consensus. Those who believe 10-15% is fair for everyone are cried greedy by those who wish to take 30-60% (which apparently isn't greedy).

    Fair share is in the eye of the beholder it would seem, and those at the lowest brackets that feel disadvantaged will continue to cry for those with advantage, luck, or high work ethic to pay a higher percentage out of spite. All the while it is ignored that the government is receiving these moneys. With their high salaries and expensive vacations, those earning money from the taxpayer are all too eager to raise the taxes in order to find more of their 'programs'. They only project ten years down the road in order to muddy the waters we swim in. And we swim straight into the trap we never see.
     
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    You understand nothing because you're probably making a fortune from off-shoring and the rampant use of business visas that are replacing Americans en masse.

    In terms of "fair taxation", taxation without cost accounting and auditing is wasteful.
    Taxation is needed to maintain an infrastructure, but when a large corporation abandons the US, it feels it need not contribute to infrastructure.

    So good, let the MNCs provide their own TSA and military escorts for their shipments from China to the US; not to mention patent protection and other services.
     
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    What the heck is a "business visa?" I think you mean an H1-B. I don't make a dime off of them.

    Most taxation goes to pay ticks on the ass of society. Very little goes to infrastructure. When a corporation leaves the United States, it doesn't use U.S. infrastructure. So why should it pay for it? As for "cost accounting and auditing," what does that have to do with this discussion?

    That would probably be 1/10th the cost of paying for all the ticks on the ass of society like they do now.
     

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