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I don't see it's main benefit as a people-mover.The problem that all advocates of high speed rail have is they are like the Germans invading Russia, they look at a map and have no clue just how far you are talking about. High speed rail is incredibly expensive, in all aspects. Land to build it on, the rails themselves, the trains and yes the electricity to run them. I see high speed rail linking key cities in the East some day and maybe Los Angeles and Seattle in the distant future. But coast to coast? Highly doubtful. I just see this as a nice opportunity to engage in some graft and corruption.
How much was the Big Dig supposed to cost? How much di it cost in the end?
That's the problem folks.
I don't think it would get the ridership
I take the Acela between New York and Boston and New York and DC. Both routes see high ridership but are on the fringe of the tradeoff between time and conenience. If you have a choice between a flight to Chicago taking two hours and a high speed train taking six, you will take the plane
amtrak? The post office of the transportation business.
Watch, $53 billion will become $150 billion and amtrak will be more broke than ever as some douche bag bureaucrats puts rail lines in from ottumwa to el paso to placate their constituents, then they realize nobody travels from ottumwa to el paso.
what would you do, because the rest of the world is passing us by, while people like you and willowtwat cry about spending.
the rest of the world is also passing us by in killing christians and mutilating woman.. Should we catch up with those as well?
Umm they have to put up ones over the track. Duhhh.
I thnk we need more light rail transport first.
We need light rail systems down the center median of a lot of our interstate highways.
We will have to buy our HS rail trains from Seimens( german?) I expect
53B to build it and another 150B a year to hire defrocked clergy to make sure the boarding passengers aren't "terrorists".Obama proposed a new initiative to develop a new HSR system for $53b
Obama to call for $53B for high-speed rail - Yahoo! News
I personally believe that an HSR system is essential to the long-term health of the US economy. When the cost of gas exceeds $5/gallon and transportation costs become prohibitive, HSR will be the mode of choice.
I support the initiative, especially when China has a brand new 300 mph HSR system
China smashes high-speed rail record with 300MPH unmodified train run | Gadling.com
So lets vote. IMHO this is like the interstate expressway system only better. I'm hoping it gets some of those big rigs off the roads. We need to start planning transportation 20, 30, even 50 years out so we don't get caught in a bad depression in the coming years.
53B to build it and another 150B a year to hire defrocked clergy to make sure the boarding passengers aren't "terrorists".Obama proposed a new initiative to develop a new HSR system for $53b
Obama to call for $53B for high-speed rail - Yahoo! News
I personally believe that an HSR system is essential to the long-term health of the US economy. When the cost of gas exceeds $5/gallon and transportation costs become prohibitive, HSR will be the mode of choice.
I support the initiative, especially when China has a brand new 300 mph HSR system
China smashes high-speed rail record with 300MPH unmodified train run | Gadling.com
So lets vote. IMHO this is like the interstate expressway system only better. I'm hoping it gets some of those big rigs off the roads. We need to start planning transportation 20, 30, even 50 years out so we don't get caught in a bad depression in the coming years.
BTW. 11% of homes in murka are unoccupied/repo's and 40 plus million are on food stamps.Who knows what real unemployment is.
What part of "depression" do you not understand ?
$53 billion, chump change. How much did that war of choice in Iraq cost? $1.5 billion in aid to Egypt, more to Isreal. How much to protect South Korea? Troops around the world protecting my interest, or the interest of big oil?
Want revenue? Take marijuana off schedule I and let states regulate or outlaw it. Or, put tobacco on schedule I and stop a known killer saving the cost of treating tobacco caused diseases.
HST and light rail make sense and cents. New generation nuclear power plants make sense and buidling canals to our major rivers for the transport of goods makes sense today too.
All require skilled labor, for labor to become skilled a good education is necessary.
So far, what has the House of Reprsentatives under Boehner offered? The jobs are waiting to be funded, all we need is some leadership, some imagination and less pandering to the idiot fringe.
The problem that all advocates of high speed rail have is they are like the Germans invading Russia, they look at a map and have no clue just how far you are talking about. High speed rail is incredibly expensive, in all aspects. Land to build it on, the rails themselves, the trains and yes the electricity to run them. I see high speed rail linking key cities in the East some day and maybe Los Angeles and Seattle in the distant future. But coast to coast? Highly doubtful. I just see this as a nice opportunity to engage in some graft and corruption.
How much was the Big Dig supposed to cost? How much di it cost in the end?
That's the problem folks.
Amtrak? The post office of the transportation business.
Watch, $53 billion will become $150 billion and Amtrak will be more broke than ever as some douche bag bureaucrats puts rail lines in from Ottumwa to El Paso to placate their constituents, then they realize nobody travels from Ottumwa to El Paso.
best answer in the thread.
No, WillowTree. Most moronic.
How come all you teabaggers don't know that the Post Office is in the Constitution? And that the Post Office MUST deliver to everyone, no matter how inconvenient or non-profitable it is.
Big difference from FED-EX, who can say "Deering, Alaska??? Fuck 'em!" if it doesn't turn a profit.
Amtrak? The post office of the transportation business.
Watch, $53 billion will become $150 billion and Amtrak will be more broke than ever as some douche bag bureaucrats puts rail lines in from Ottumwa to El Paso to placate their constituents, then they realize nobody travels from Ottumwa to El Paso.
best answer in the thread.
No, WillowTree. Most moronic.
How come all you teabaggers don't know that the Post Office is in the Constitution? And that the Post Office MUST deliver to everyone, no matter how inconvenient or non-profitable it is.
Big difference from FED-EX, who can say "Deering, Alaska??? Fuck 'em!" if it doesn't turn a profit.
The fucking government can't get Amtrak right and you want to give it another more expensive train to play with?
Neither is Socialism For Soldiers, dumbass.best answer in the thread.
No, WillowTree. Most moronic.
How come all you teabaggers don't know that the Post Office is in the Constitution? And that the Post Office MUST deliver to everyone, no matter how inconvenient or non-profitable it is.
Big difference from FED-EX, who can say "Deering, Alaska??? Fuck 'em!" if it doesn't turn a profit.
Government-provided transportation isn't mentioned in the Constitution.
I guess they are correct: you can't fix stupid.best answer in the thread.
No, WillowTree. Most moronic.
How come all you teabaggers don't know that the Post Office is in the Constitution? And that the Post Office MUST deliver to everyone, no matter how inconvenient or non-profitable it is.
Big difference from FED-EX, who can say "Deering, Alaska??? Fuck 'em!" if it doesn't turn a profit.
No Cynthia, it was the best post,, now why don't you focus on Amtrak? Gov. run rail loses billions.. par for the course and you idiots want us to build a high speed rail that runs on electricity and at the same time impose a devastating cap and trade tax to tax the shit out of coal companies and coal produces the energy you want to run these electric high speed trains on. you are all morons. you must prove yourselfs capable of thinking your way out of a cracker box before you convince me you know what you are doing. just cause some politician tells you it will be wonderful it won't notice the over 700 hundred waivers from the messiahs obamacare? ain't so damn great is it?
Obama proposed a new initiative to develop a new HSR system for $53b
Obama to call for $53B for high-speed rail - Yahoo! News
I personally believe that an HSR system is essential to the long-term health of the US economy. When the cost of gas exceeds $5/gallon and transportation costs become prohibitive, HSR will be the mode of choice.
I support the initiative, especially when China has a brand new 300 mph HSR system
China smashes high-speed rail record with 300MPH unmodified train run | Gadling.com
So lets vote. IMHO this is like the interstate expressway system only better. I'm hoping it gets some of those big rigs off the roads. We need to start planning transportation 20, 30, even 50 years out so we don't get caught in a bad depression in the coming years.
Obama proposed a new initiative to develop a new HSR system for $53b
Obama to call for $53B for high-speed rail - Yahoo! News
I personally believe that an HSR system is essential to the long-term health of the US economy. When the cost of gas exceeds $5/gallon and transportation costs become prohibitive, HSR will be the mode of choice.
I support the initiative, especially when China has a brand new 300 mph HSR system
China smashes high-speed rail record with 300MPH unmodified train run | Gadling.com
So lets vote. IMHO this is like the interstate expressway system only better. I'm hoping it gets some of those big rigs off the roads. We need to start planning transportation 20, 30, even 50 years out so we don't get caught in a bad depression in the coming years.
high speed rails are a great idea
Having the government build and run them is a bad idea....just look to how they have handled amtrack for proof.
Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it
Obama proposed a new initiative to develop a new HSR system for $53b
Obama to call for $53B for high-speed rail - Yahoo! News
I personally believe that an HSR system is essential to the long-term health of the US economy. When the cost of gas exceeds $5/gallon and transportation costs become prohibitive, HSR will be the mode of choice.
I support the initiative, especially when China has a brand new 300 mph HSR system
China smashes high-speed rail record with 300MPH unmodified train run | Gadling.com
So lets vote. IMHO this is like the interstate expressway system only better. I'm hoping it gets some of those big rigs off the roads. We need to start planning transportation 20, 30, even 50 years out so we don't get caught in a bad depression in the coming years.
high speed rails are a great idea
Having the government build and run them is a bad idea....just look to how they have handled amtrack for proof.
Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it
AMTRAK loses money because Congress forces them to keep unprofitable lines through their districts.
I still don't see how high speed rail other than the Boston- DC corridor can turn a profit.
The infrastructure needed between point A and point B would never be warranted when you can just fly from point A to point B
