Poll: FDR # 1 President

It appears those answering these polls are not well informed. FDR is one of the worst presidents this country has ever had. We have him to thank for a long list of unsustainable government programs that the framers would frown upon. He passed legislation that silenced his opposers, making it illegal for them to exercise their first amendment right and speak out against his administration. He served 16 consecutive years in office as the closest thing America has ever had to a king or dictator.

Here is a worthy question. If FDR was such a great president, why did Congress draft legislation that would limit the Presidency to only two term limits immediately after Roosevelt's death? The law was passed before his body was even put in the ground. FDR doesn't belong in the same category as Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln. Anyone who thinks so needs to read their history.

This forum is NOT for peddling your crap.

~Dude

I agree with that 100 percent, I'd also like to add the Emergency Banking Act of 1933 which robbed money from the hands of citizens, by seizing gold and silver assets people had in banks and outlawing private ownership coin and bullion, only to be replaced with worthless notes. FDR was nothing more than a socialist coddling thief.

Revisionist history from Dude and FW. Take it elsewhere, bozos, no one is buy.
 
It's always amusing to watch people who are comfortable criticize FDR. You won't meet many people who lived through the depression and World War II who feel that way.

Like it or not, all Presidents are products of their time. FDR was the right man at the right time to lead America through two major crisis's.
Retard
 
It is rather interesting that he is still thought of as number 1 even as the unsustainable debt from his social programs threatens to be our undoing.

56 Trillion in unfunded liabilities and counting.

That said, I do think he performed rather well as a war leader, but his social Legacy continues to be our problem today, and Obama's blue print it appears. FDR's massive spending programs did not get us out of the Depression. many economist believe they actually made it last much longer than need be. It was the massive growth in private industry fueled by Government spending on their products to fight WWII that finally dragged us up and out of the Depression.

Democrats just like to credit FDR's programs, which is not surprising since they are much like Obama's Stimulus plan. FDR's Jobs programs created mostly only Government jobs, and temporary construction jobs. Which were great for the few people that got them, but only added to the countries over all problems. Exactly as Obama is doing right now. Also alike both passed massive new entitlement programs that would/will saddle the country with even more unsustainable debt. We did not have a recovery from the Great Depression until we had significant private sector job growth. We will not see a real recovery from this recession until we have the same. 13000 Private sector jobs created in the month of June is not going to cut it.
 
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Had it not been for Vietnam, I'd choose LBJ. No other president did more for civil rights.


“I’ll have those ******* voting Democratic for the next 200 years.” "I have voted against the so-called anti-lynching bill." - LBJ

Let's not forget public education and public housing

Did YOU EVER SUPPLY a LINK for those QUOTES of LBJ's that YOU SAY are his quotes....YES OR NO?

PLEASE ANSWER ME. Where did you get those quotes of Lbj? Are they made up and NOT TRUE or are they real?

Not too hard of a question there Frank....can you be an honest person and just answer this for me?

thanks
 
It's always amusing to watch people who are comfortable criticize FDR. You won't meet many people who lived through the depression and World War II who feel that way.

Like it or not, all Presidents are products of their time. FDR was the right man at the right time to lead America through two major crisis's.
Retard

You are projecting, Mr. F.
 
As a centrist Republican, I know the lefties often exaggerate and do a lot of bleeding heart crying, but the far right reactionaries out right distort and lie. Look at this thread. They lie, they lie, and they lie again. The GOP has to get rid of them in order to return to power with a great program, with great leaders, with great credibility.
 
It's always amusing to watch people who are comfortable criticize FDR. You won't meet many people who lived through the depression and World War II who feel that way.

Like it or not, all Presidents are products of their time. FDR was the right man at the right time to lead America through two major crisis's.
Retard

You are projecting, Mr. F.
You insist on not answering the questions.
People can read ,that isnt good for you.
http://www.usmessageboard.com/2470858-post116.html
http://www.usmessageboard.com/2470860-post117.html
 
Calvin Coolidge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Calvin Coolidge
30th President of the United States
In office
August 2, 1923 – March 4, 1929[1]

In case you didn't realize there was a depression from 1920-1921 that most people have never heard of because it was so short and was easily corrected by the common sense of conservative ideology. The man behind the fix deserves some respect and almost never gets any appreciation, and believe it or not it was Warren G. Harding. There's a lot of history to learn from,especially when it comes to economics, but most of the valuable stuff is forgotten.

The correction was not by Harding (who was a journalist) but by his Treasury Secretary, who at first wanted to give a tax cut only to the rich but was forced to give it to the middle class as well. That, along with consumer demand, corrected the RECESSION. Words have meanings, guy. Use them correctly.

Not quite, The federal reserve skrewed the pooch shortly after WW1 and made some miscalculations regarding inflation, lending rates, and reality, like they did not too long ago. Harding's recovery had nothing to do with the tax rate and everything to do with cutting government and it's spending. He also convinced workers that lowering the earning wage to reflect the state of the economy so there would not be the domino effect collapse like we have been seeing in this days economic failure. It's a hard pill to swallow when times are tough, but taking home a little less bacon is better than the alternative of mass unemployment, bankruptcy, and foreclosure.
 
In case you didn't realize there was a depression from 1920-1921 that most people have never heard of because it was so short and was easily corrected by the common sense of conservative ideology. The man behind the fix deserves some respect and almost never gets any appreciation, and believe it or not it was Warren G. Harding. There's a lot of history to learn from,especially when it comes to economics, but most of the valuable stuff is forgotten.

The correction was not by Harding (who was a journalist) but by his Treasury Secretary, who at first wanted to give a tax cut only to the rich but was forced to give it to the middle class as well. That, along with consumer demand, corrected the RECESSION. Words have meanings, guy. Use them correctly.

Not quite, The federal reserve skrewed the pooch shortly after WW1 and made some miscalculations regarding inflation, lending rates, and reality, like they did not too long ago. Harding's recovery had nothing to do with the tax rate and everything to do with cutting government and it's spending. He also convinced workers that lowering the earning wage to reflect the state of the economy so there would not be the domino effect collapse like we have been seeing in this days economic failure. It's a hard pill to swallow when times are tough, but taking home a little less bacon is better than the alternative of mass unemployment, bankruptcy, and foreclosure.

The pill that is bitter for you is that you can't link the correlation. The tax cut to drive consumer demand is the reason accepted by reputable historians and economists. Your revisionism does not fly.
 
As a centrist Republican, I know the lefties often exaggerate and do a lot of bleeding heart crying, but the far right reactionaries out right distort and lie. Look at this thread. They lie, they lie, and they lie again. The GOP has to get rid of them in order to return to power with a great program, with great leaders, with great credibility.

so whats a far right " reactionary" anyway these days?
 
Calvin Coolidge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Calvin Coolidge
30th President of the United States
In office
August 2, 1923 – March 4, 1929[1]

In case you didn't realize there was a depression from 1920-1921 that most people have never heard of because it was so short and was easily corrected by the common sense of conservative ideology. The man behind the fix deserves some respect and almost never gets any appreciation, and believe it or not it was Warren G. Harding. There's a lot of history to learn from,especially when it comes to economics, but most of the valuable stuff is forgotten.

Don't ya'll love right wing revisionist history?

Bizarro World

BWAHAAAHAAA, the truth is hard to take isn't it? You can take a chapter summary from a middle school history book and a mix it with some propaganda, suddenly you're an expert, right. :lol: I know, I know your liberal icons say it isn't true and they never lie right?
 
You can start with dude and some of his cronies. daveman and Mr. F are even beyond that. They are economic predators, with consciences that would have fit right in with the robber barons of the 19th century. Guys, we are in the 21st century, and we are not going back to Reaganite plus policies, and, you libertarians (?), your hopes will never happen.
 
In case you didn't realize there was a depression from 1920-1921 that most people have never heard of because it was so short and was easily corrected by the common sense of conservative ideology. The man behind the fix deserves some respect and almost never gets any appreciation, and believe it or not it was Warren G. Harding. There's a lot of history to learn from,especially when it comes to economics, but most of the valuable stuff is forgotten.

Don't ya'll love right wing revisionist history?

Bizarro World

BWAHAAAHAAA, the truth is hard to take isn't it? You can take a chapter summary from a middle school history book and a mix it with some propaganda, suddenly you're an expert, right. :lol: I know, I know your liberal icons say it isn't true and they never lie right?

Fenris. Son! I am talking to you. Look me in the eye, that's right in the eye. You have not offered anything, and you are telling those who are better informed that they don't know what they are talking about? Run along, sit, listen, and learn. Now, scoot!
 
You are projecting, Mr. F.
You insist on not answering the questions.
People can read ,that isnt good for you.

Quit your whining, son. You are a loon. You are a liar. You just are a simpleton. Nothing else can explain your sickness. So, stop whining, start thinking, and move on with your life. America is never going to be the place you want, never.

You insist on not answering the questions.
People can read ,that isnt good for you.
http://www.usmessageboard.com/2470858-post116.html
http://www.usmessageboard.com/2470860-post117.html
 
You can start with dude and some of his cronies. daveman and Mr. F are even beyond that. They are economic predators, with consciences that would have fit right in with the robber barons of the 19th century. Guys, we are in the 21st century, and we are not going back to Reaganite plus policies, and, you libertarians (?), your hopes will never happen.

You insist on not answering the questions.
People can read ,that isnt good for you.
http://www.usmessageboard.com/2470858-post116.html
http://www.usmessageboard.com/2470860-post117.html
 
You insist on not answering the questions.
People can read ,that isnt good for you.

Quit your whining, son. You are a loon. You are a liar. You just are a simpleton. Nothing else can explain your sickness. So, stop whining, start thinking, and move on with your life. America is never going to be the place you want, never.

You insist on not answering the questions.
People can read ,that isnt good for you.

Your sickness is showing. Your projection is showing. That is not good for you.
 
You can start with dude and some of his cronies. daveman and Mr. F are even beyond that. They are economic predators, with consciences that would have fit right in with the robber barons of the 19th century. Guys, we are in the 21st century, and we are not going back to Reaganite plus policies, and, you libertarians (?), your hopes will never happen.

wow, this site has cronies and everything? get out of town, man I am in the right place......:eusa_drool:

anyway, so what defines the conscience of a robber baron, seriously..?
 

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