Poll 50% Don't Like The SCOTUS Ruling

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0p9Txm55g8]George Stephanopoulos Interviews Obama - Obamacare - YouTube[/ame]

Let me make a point, Obama compares this to Auto insurance. Is there a vast segment of the citizens that get free auto insurance?

How does this reduce the cost of medical care? Not the premiums but the overall cost?
 
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What's funny is watching the democrats try to run away from the TAX! Even insisting that SCOTUS was WRONG.

If obamatax is not a tax, it is unconstitutional, that's what the ruling was.

The conservative wing of the Supreme Court, i.e., the one that people like you like to worship and like to claim are the true protectors of the Constitution,

THEY WERE WRONG. THEY said it was not a tax.

In fact, if Roberts had made that same mistake, the healthcare bill would have been overturned on a grievous constitutional error by the conservatives on the court,

and btw idiots like you would be then defending that erroneous decision to the death.

Good to know we don't need a SCOTUS when we have you around to point out the constitutionality of things.

The only thing wrong here is nyour post.

Roberts made the mistake of actually finding a way to make it constitutional when the basis for Oblather's argument was, in fact, wrong.
 
What's funny is watching the democrats try to run away from the TAX! Even insisting that SCOTUS was WRONG.

If obamatax is not a tax, it is unconstitutional, that's what the ruling was.

The conservative wing of the Supreme Court, i.e., the one that people like you like to worship and like to claim are the true protectors of the Constitution,

THEY WERE WRONG. THEY said it was not a tax.

In fact, if Roberts had made that same mistake, the healthcare bill would have been overturned on a grievous constitutional error by the conservatives on the court,

and btw idiots like you would be then defending that erroneous decision to the death.

Good to know we don't need a SCOTUS when we have you around to point out the constitutionality of things.

The only thing wrong here is nyour post.

Roberts made the mistake of actually finding a way to make it constitutional when the basis for Oblather's argument was, in fact, wrong.

Wow, because you are such an incredible constitutional scholar and you understand these things.
 
The conservative wing of the Supreme Court, i.e., the one that people like you like to worship and like to claim are the true protectors of the Constitution,

THEY WERE WRONG. THEY said it was not a tax.

In fact, if Roberts had made that same mistake, the healthcare bill would have been overturned on a grievous constitutional error by the conservatives on the court,

and btw idiots like you would be then defending that erroneous decision to the death.

Good to know we don't need a SCOTUS when we have you around to point out the constitutionality of things.

The only thing wrong here is nyour post.

Roberts made the mistake of actually finding a way to make it constitutional when the basis for Oblather's argument was, in fact, wrong.

Wow, because you are such an incredible constitutional scholar and you understand these things.

Don't need to know much...to know more than you.
 
George Stephanopoulos Interviews Obama - Obamacare - YouTube

Let me make a point, Obama compares this to Auto insurance. Is there a vast segment of the citizens that get free auto insurance?

How does this reduce the cost of medical care? Not the premiums but the overall cost?

You're misunderstanding why he refers to it. He's giving you another example of something you are MANDATED to buy. Conservatives act like your mother's being shot and your dog got poisoned when you're forced to buy something...but you ALREADY ARE. It's pretty hypocritical...but whatever.
 
No but they're wrong. IT IS A GARGANTUAN TAX.. ASK the MAJORITY vote on the COURT.. THE losers don't get to say it's not a tax because it has been RULED A TAX. now stop looking so damn foolish. IT"S a fucking TAX.

I said it was a tax months ago. In fact I just spent 15 minutes trying to find my post. So shut up.

but the dude you voted for lied to you and said it wasn't a tax. did you believe him? gonna vote for him again. he looked right into your face and lied to you. :badgrin::badgrin::badgrin:

DUDE!!! MITT ROMNEY TOLD MASSACHUSETTS THE SAME LIE!!!

Need proof? Here you go...

Romney: "It's not a tax hike. It is a fee, an assessment." - YouTube

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So i guess you wont be voting for Romney either, huh?
 
You are a jackass.

His Solicitor General had one of the worst performances in the history of the court and everybody saw the justices slam him on the Commerce Clause. That was the whole basis of their argument and it's what the four moron libs on the court wanted written into the decisions.

It wasn't written in because Roberts essentially rewrote the law and allowed it to pass through the backdoor.

Obama was completely wrong in his assertions on the constitutionality of the law...he got shot down big time.

Pull your head out of your ass and enjoy some fresh air.

The Supreme Court, in a 5-4 majority, just ruled this law constitutional.

That's what happened.

Sucks to be you.

Didn't you get your lolipop in daycare today ?

The SCOTUS wrote a majority decision and two 4 member dissents.

In the main decision they said the law was not constitutional under the Commerce Clause.

Please try to keep up.

The law was upheld as constitutional based because Congress' ability to tax is quite broad. The commerce clause justification was struck down, however there were justices who said even this should be valid.

Please try to keep up.
 
The Supreme Court, in a 5-4 majority, just ruled this law constitutional.

That's what happened.

Sucks to be you.

Didn't you get your lolipop in daycare today ?

The SCOTUS wrote a majority decision and two 4 member dissents.

In the main decision they said the law was not constitutional under the Commerce Clause.

Please try to keep up.

The law was upheld as constitutional based because Congress' ability to tax is quite broad. The commerce clause justification was struck down, however there were justices who said even this should be valid.

Please try to keep up.

Not explaining it again after this....

For the 100th time.

The Admin argued on the Commerce Clause....and lost.

Roberts essentially dug up another pathway to so-called constitutionality.

It appears he was late in developing that argument.

The whole thing is a tremendous travesty. Roberts is going to go down as another Earl Warren (who should be dug up, shot, burned and not buried again).
 
Didn't you get your lolipop in daycare today ?

The SCOTUS wrote a majority decision and two 4 member dissents.

In the main decision they said the law was not constitutional under the Commerce Clause.

Please try to keep up.

The law was upheld as constitutional based because Congress' ability to tax is quite broad. The commerce clause justification was struck down, however there were justices who said even this should be valid.

Please try to keep up.

Not explaining it again after this....

For the 100th time.

The Admin argued on the Commerce Clause....and lost.

Roberts essentially dug up another pathway to so-called constitutionality.

It appears he was late in developing that argument.

The whole thing is a tremendous travesty. Roberts is going to go down as another Earl Warren (who should be dug up, shot, burned and not buried again).

Please don't. Some idiot might think you're right.

Which you're not. You're wrong. The law...is constitutional...on tax grounds. Which the WH attorneys almost didn't argue in court, as it wasn't their main theory.

The reason why Republicans are talking repeal...is because it was upheld... talk about dense.
 
Romney's a douche, but he did start the health reform era LOL. He called it the "Personal responsibility Incentive" The GOP is screwed- their hypocrisy/greed is just too obvious!Except to total dupes...

Romneycare a great success, none of the PUB doom and gloom.

Frontline said cost rises are now 2%, easily the lowest in the USA. So change the channel...

For this reason he also provided for subsidies for individuals living below three times the federal poverty line to make insurance affordable. This “three-legged stool”—banning discrimination in insurance markets, mandating that individuals purchase insurance, and providing low-income subsidies for insurance purchase—became the basis for both our reform in Massachusetts and for the Affordable Care Act (ACA).

The enormous success of health-care reform in the almost six years since its passage in Massachusetts can make us more confident that this three-legged stool will work for the nation as a whole. We have covered about two-thirds of uninsured Massachusetts residents, and have lowered the premiums in the non-group market by half relative to national premium trends. And we have done so with broad public support. Moreover, this reform succeeded without interfering with the employer-sponsored insurance market that works for most of our residents: employer-sponsored insurance coverage has actually risen in Massachusetts, while falling sharply nationally, and the premiums for employer-sponsored insurance rose no faster in Massachusetts than they did nationally.

This was all possible because the individual mandate ended the “death spiral” of trying to obtain fairly priced insurance by just forcing insurers to charge everyone the same price. The bottom line is that we can’t have fairly priced insurance for the healthy and sick alike without the broad participation that is guaranteed by the mandate. The mandate is the spinach we have to eat to get the dessert that is fairly priced insurance coverage.
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The complacency of the left over this ruling may be a gift to Republicans in the forseeable future. All is well, relax, we have you covered. Meanwhile the conservative base is riling up the forces to hit this issue along with unemployment, high deficits, a still critically poor econmy after 3 years and now additional taxes on those who can least afford it.

What do they worry about first, Underwater mortgages and foreclosed homes, new taxes or finding that job before UI runs out. Oh happy days under Obama.

But relax, liberals. You are in good hands.
 
The law was upheld as constitutional based because Congress' ability to tax is quite broad. The commerce clause justification was struck down, however there were justices who said even this should be valid.

Please try to keep up.

Not explaining it again after this....

For the 100th time.

The Admin argued on the Commerce Clause....and lost.

Roberts essentially dug up another pathway to so-called constitutionality.

It appears he was late in developing that argument.

The whole thing is a tremendous travesty. Roberts is going to go down as another Earl Warren (who should be dug up, shot, burned and not buried again).

Please don't. Some idiot might think you're right.

Which you're not. You're wrong. The law...is constitutional...on tax grounds. Which the WH attorneys almost didn't argue in court, as it wasn't their main theory.

The reason why Republicans are talking repeal...is because it was upheld... talk about dense.

I think I said it was found constitutional through the back door.

The reason they are talking repeal is because they can. Only in this case...they won't need 60 votes to gut it. They won't repeal it....never gonna happen.

They will just kill it through strangelation.
 
In the main decision they said the law was not constitutional under the Commerce Clause.

That's what you said. Then you got all sarcastic about "keeping up". So now you're correcting, which is fine. We all do that once in awhile :)
 
if they decide to repeal it...they wont need 60 votes for every part, because some parts were passed through reconciliation.

I think they will try to do that...just so they can claim VICTORY! I agree with you that some of the same stuff will go into their bill...but they can get two political "wins" by saying #1 They stopped Evil Obummer! and #2 They passed the right healthcare bill.

And the bullshit is...that it's all political. They could work to fix the law as-is...or waste more time just to get credit.

Washington is so screwed up.
 
Voters are reacting in broadly negative ways to the Supreme Court’s decision to uphold the legislation known as Obamacare, a new Newsweek/Daily Beast poll finds, with a majority disapproving of the ruling, fearing health-care costs and taxes will rise, and preferring Mitt Romney to President Obama on the issue.

At the same time, voters scored the ruling a short-term political win for the president by a huge margin.

Overall, 50 percent of those polled said they disapprove of the court’s 5–4 decision, while 45 percent said they support it. Consistently, a majority of voters said that they oppose the individual mandate (53 percent); believe taxes will increase (52 percent); believe their personal health-care costs will increase (56 percent); and disapprove of Obama’s handling of health care in general (58 percent). Only 24 percent of those polled said that they believe the ruling will make the country better off.

New Poll: Voters Dislike Supreme Court


Not that it matters to me because justices don't vote to be popular....unless you listen to Charles Krautwhatever....who think Roberts only did this to preserve the integrity of the court (and if he did...boy did he blow that one).

However, it does have some thought provoking information with regards to how people might vote come November.

Romney needs to ram this up Obama/Axelrod/Jarrett's asses.

LOL


President Obama 221 Governor Romney 181

In the President column at present

Colorado 9
Florida 29
Iowa 6
Michigan 16
Nevada 6
New Hampshire 4
Ohio 18
Virginia 13
Wisconsin 10

At present, that is 332, 52 more than needed to win the election. Thus far hasn't been a debit for the Obama campaign.
 
OK.

The GOP really thinks that 30 million uninsured is a very good thing.

The GOP likes the idea of 750,000 American families going bankrupt every year because of medical bills.

The GOP wants every pregnancy to go full term, then the hell with the child that is born. Let the little bastard fend for itself.

You really think that this is going to resonate with the electorate? Get ol' Prune Face out there to explain why it is a good thing that 30 million Americans are insured.
 

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