Politically who gets credit for the stock market run up today? scince 08?

If you think you can blame Obama for the bad and not let him get credit for the good you're a mental retard.
That's what these people are...
Tarp?
not volt tarp, we know how that turned out
Apple had had much to do with the Nasdaq, Obama gets credit for that?
The jobs report on Friday did little, stress test today did much for JPM

Whats every-ones opinion?
Hopefully none.
No politician should ever take credit or be given credit for something they had nothing to do with.

tell that to the right wingers who gave Bush credit for the economy before it all fell apart.
Then they blamed it on the dems.
They are still squawking on and on about how the economy was strong throughout the entire Bush Regime.
 
Tarp?
not volt tarp, we know how that turned out
Apple had had much to do with the Nasdaq, Obama gets credit for that?
The jobs report on Friday did little, stress test today did much for JPM

Whats every-ones opinion?

The Fed and its zero interest rates, and the promise they'll continue into 2014. The only place left for a return on cash is the market and Bernanke's promise makes it at least seem less risky. Investors are making money in the market.

So ... companies making record profits has nothing to do with it?

Nope; didn't say that. Without the Fed action the stock market wouldn't have the huge gains it has, which IMO comes much more from investments fleeing to stocks where there is at least some potential for earnings than it does from "record" profits. Would you name a couple of those record profits for us please?
 
The stock market has doubled since the stimulus.
3.9 million private sector jobs have been created since 2009.
GDP has been growing since 2009.
Americans net worth is up $9 trillion dollars since 2009.
Auto sales are up. Retail sales are up. Home sales are up. Unemployment is down.
GM was saved, and is now the number one automaker in the world.
Obama has done a very good job.

Chris there has been 0 jobs created scince 09, we are still short of the 09 numbers
Media Celebrate 'Good' September Jobs Number, But Obama's Still 6.2 Million Short of Promise | NewsBusters.org
GDP is crawling at best from the Regan years, it is also being grade against dismal 08 numbers as a base with trillions of debt
need a link on that net worth, sounds like BS with the tax revenue so far down from GWB years
Auto sales same, GM still owes us 50 billion

your opinion of a godd job is just that, and I have no issue with that, just your "facts" espicially the jobs, or lack of
 
If you think you can blame Obama for the bad and not let him get credit for the good you're a mental retard.
That's what these people are...
Hopefully none.
No politician should ever take credit or be given credit for something they had nothing to do with.

tell that to the right wingers who gave Bush credit for the economy before it all fell apart.
Then they blamed it on the dems.
They are still squawking on and on about how the economy was strong throughout the entire Bush Regime.

5% UE with a defict of 162 billion in 2007 is allot better than 15% UE (U6, U3 has been changed) and trillions in defict
GWB U6 was less than 10 as I recall

I would say one is better than the other
 
Tarp?
not volt tarp, we know how that turned out
Apple had had much to do with the Nasdaq, Obama gets credit for that?
The jobs report on Friday did little, stress test today did much for JPM

Whats every-ones opinion?

I Blame BOOOOSSSSHHHHH!!

Oh wait, we are not suppose to give him credit, are we?:tongue:
 
My guess would be those evil greedy wall street types, investors, institutions, retirement funds, speculators and traders looking to make satanistic, unfair, exorbitant, profits............

america needs to regress to socialist agrarian communes to restore its soul !

it takes a village
 
The Fed and its zero interest rates, and the promise they'll continue into 2014. The only place left for a return on cash is the market and Bernanke's promise makes it at least seem less risky. Investors are making money in the market.

So ... companies making record profits has nothing to do with it?

Nope; didn't say that. Without the Fed action the stock market wouldn't have the huge gains it has, which IMO comes much more from investments fleeing to stocks where there is at least some potential for earnings than it does from "record" profits. Would you name a couple of those record profits for us please?

Enjoy ...

2010 realizes record profits for U.S. corporations | Washington Times Communities

Corporate Profits At All-Time High As Recovery Stumbles

Companies near record profits amid high unemployment | The Raw Story

US corporate profits return to record levels

GM posts record earnings for 2011 - Feb. 16, 2012

Can companies continue to post record profits?

Bankruptcies drop as company profits soar
 
Tarp?
not volt tarp, we know how that turned out
Apple had had much to do with the Nasdaq, Obama gets credit for that?
The jobs report on Friday did little, stress test today did much for JPM

Whats every-ones opinion?

The Federal Reserve. Wall Street doesn't care about the long term damage printing money out of thin air leads to...because in the short term, cash is king.

Excuse me?

Are you saying the government doesn't have the mandate to print money? Or determine it's value?

Really?
 
The stock market has doubled since the stimulus.
3.9 million private sector jobs have been created since 2009.
GDP has been growing since 2009.
Americans net worth is up $9 trillion dollars since 2009.
Auto sales are up. Retail sales are up. Home sales are up. Unemployment is down.
GM was saved, and is now the number one automaker in the world.
Obama has done a very good job.

Oh now it it not a job stimulus, but a stock market stimulus..I get it now.
Chris, you should seek employment as a democrat spin doctor.
Those people are lying sacks of shit with no conscience and will say anything as long as it benefits their party and of course their bank accounts.
You post these numbers and statements. Yet your batting average in providing links to support your claims hovers around the grade point average of Delta House.
Your giddy and blind loyalty to a man who will have you living under the thumb of an intrusive central government is simply baffling.
 
My guess would be those evil greedy wall street types, investors, institutions, retirement funds, speculators and traders looking to make satanistic, unfair, exorbitant, profits............

america needs to regress to socialist agrarian communes to restore its soul !

it takes a village

Yes..Evil and greedy. Especially evil.
 
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So ... companies making record profits has nothing to do with it?

Nope; didn't say that. Without the Fed action the stock market wouldn't have the huge gains it has, which IMO comes much more from investments fleeing to stocks where there is at least some potential for earnings than it does from "record" profits. Would you name a couple of those record profits for us please?

Enjoy ...

2010 realizes record profits for U.S. corporations | Washington Times Communities

Corporate Profits At All-Time High As Recovery Stumbles

Companies near record profits amid high unemployment | The Raw Story

US corporate profits return to record levels

GM posts record earnings for 2011 - Feb. 16, 2012

Can companies continue to post record profits?

Bankruptcies drop as company profits soar

all of your links except GM have to do with the free market
Not Obama
I will get back to GM

1) Withut tarp, none of this happens, BHO did vote for it, I will give him that, and took over1/2 of it that we will never get most back, including
2) GM, profit?
Bailout List: Banks, Auto Companies, and More | Eye on the Bailout | ProPublica
dont think so, they need to pay us back what they owe us before they can post real profits
 
The market has come back much quicker than the rest of the economy in large part because the Fed has kept interest rates so low. What I find most amusing about the "glee" that progressives here seem to have about the stock market rebound is that the middle class and lower classes for the most part aren't going along on this ride. They all had such a bad experience with the last market collapse that they want nothing to do with stocks. The people who have made money off this market surge are the wealthy who borrowed money at absurdly low interest rates...invested it in the market and reaped the benefits...you know...those 1% that you all HATE so much?
 
The market has come back much quicker than the rest of the economy in large part because the Fed has kept interest rates so low. What I find most amusing about the "glee" that progressives here seem to have about the stock market rebound is that the middle class and lower classes for the most part aren't going along on this ride. They all had such a bad experience with the last market collapse that they want nothing to do with stocks. The people who have made money off this market surge are the wealthy who borrowed money at absurdly low interest rates...invested it in the market and reaped the benefits...you know...those 1% that you all HATE so much?

I agree with the FED as well as not helping much except those who are investing and 401ks.

The left are so desperate to take credit for any thing good, they just need to be educated then they may vote on whats best for the country

Not saying the right has done much better, but at least during GWB reign we stood a chance
 
Tarp?
not volt tarp, we know how that turned out
Apple had had much to do with the Nasdaq, Obama gets credit for that?
The jobs report on Friday did little, stress test today did much for JPM

Whats every-ones opinion?

1/5th Bush 10/5ths Obama.

Look, we all know that when Rep is in the WH, the dow going up is just the rich getting richer, but when a Dem is in the WH, it's different somehow. Somehow the poor that don't or can't invest are magically getting trickle down, and can afford these high gas prices so so so

THERE!
 
Oh and for those of you that thinks it's the free market fixing itself.

Remember, (D) in the WH means he fixed everything.

The peoples whos job it is to turn money into more money are totally incompetent, that's why they have been going for years and years. [can't get a real job]
 
Tarp?
not volt tarp, we know how that turned out
Apple had had much to do with the Nasdaq, Obama gets credit for that?
The jobs report on Friday did little, stress test today did much for JPM

Whats every-ones opinion?

1/5th Bush 10/5ths Obama.

Look, we all know that when Rep is in the WH, the dow going up is just the rich getting richer, but when a Dem is in the WH, it's different somehow. Somehow the poor that don't or can't invest are magically getting trickle down, and can afford these high gas prices so so so

THERE!

rich getting richer has little to do with who is in the in the WH
One has to have money to make money
This is part of the issue with our economy, assets are not worth what they were bought for 7 years ago as an example
The tax payer via Tarp saved the entire game from crashing, that crash would have hurt 401ks as much as the rich, probably more

I am not sure what the 1/5-10/5 means

And as far as trickle down goes, if I own a shop that makes widgets and pay people to make those widgets, provide a matching 401k as well as help them with there healh ins, what would you call that?
Thats what many would call a good job, that is nothing more than trickle down

Wealth trickles both ways
The trickle down is the first stelp in a capitalist system, without it there is no-one to buy that widget unles of course you can print money to the level BHO has done
Most every business has debt, what BHO has added to ours is not business
 
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Why is it so important to "get credit" when the numbers don't mean a thing to the 14%? of people who are out of work and the rest of us who have to struggle with gas prices that are approaching $5.00 per gal?
 

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