Police,with FBI help seize gun from man COMPLETELY based on his political beliefs,affiliations

[beagle9]

Wow...

No probable cause..... Just hints at affiliation.. This needs to be slapped down hard and fast...

Not "hints of affiliation". He's the leader of the nutbar militia.

The Constitution guarantees the right of free association no matter how dispicable.

Since 9-11 ?? Just trying to be informed here.

 

[Jitss617]

The supreme court will reverse this and Hand his guns back and apologize

 

[beagle9]

I've read nothing that even suggested that. I suspect you haven't either.

Here's a little more information on Cole and why the FBI was so concerned about what he's been up to:

SEATTLE — A notorious neo-Nazi whose antics have included organizing paramilitary exercises in the woods of western Washington state to prepare for a “race war” has discovered there are limits to organizing violent extremism. Using a so-called “red flag” law, Seattle Police have taken away all of his guns.

Kaleb J. Cole, the 24-year-old leader of the state’s chapter of the violent fascist group Atomwaffen Division (AWD), was ordered by the state’s civil courts to surrender his guns earlier this month, according to a report from Ali Winston of The Daily Beast. The order resulted from Seattle City Police filing an “Extreme Risk Protection” petition against Cole on the basis of his violent rhetoric and organizing.

Cole first came to national attention last year as one of the ringleaders of the neo-Nazi group Atomwaffen Division, exposed in a deep Pro Publica profile of the organization already associated with several murders. A video portrayed him leading a shooting exercise in the woods near the town of Concrete, in the western Cascades Range. He is formerly from the border town of Blaine in Whatcom County, but reportedly moved to Snohomish County near Arlington after the profile was published.

According to Winston’s report, Cole surrendered several firearms, including a pistol and an AK-47 variant with a high-capacity drum magazine. He was photographed with the weapons while participating in an Atomwaffen exercise in Nevada in 2018.

FBI agents greeted Cole at O’Hare International Airport in Chicago last year, according to a report from Mike Baker of The New York Times, upon his return from a trip to Europe in which he apparently hooked up with a number of other far-right extremists. An inspection of photos on his cell phone found he had visited the Auschwitz concentration camp site in Poland with other neo-Nazis, and there were photos showing him and others with the Atomwaffen banner, giving the Nazi salute.

“This was an individual who had access to firearms and was preparing for a race war,” Kimberly Wyatt, a King County prosecutor, told the Times.

Washington’s “red flag” law allows law enforcement or civilians to obtain a court order to confiscate weapons when there is evidence that people are at high risk of harming themselves or others. A similar law in Oregon was recently used to confiscate the weapons of another right-wing extremist, Marine Sgt. Michael Kohfield, who had announced his plan to hunt down and murder antifascists in their homes.

Western Washington has been plagued with the presence of a number of far-right extremists and their organizations the past several years, including street-brawling groups such as Joey Gibson’s Patriot Prayer and the Proud Boys, as well as more violent paramilitary organizations such as Atomwaffen Division and The Base, which recently began holding training exercises in the state’s northeastern corner.

There’s also a fair amount of crossover membership within these groups. A member of the Proud Boys from the Seattle neighborhood of Ballard, Sean-Michael Scott, was recently exposed by Puget Sound Anarchists as another participant in Atomwaffen exercises as well.

According to Winston, Cole liked to use the nom de plume Khimaere in his online exchanges with other Atomwaffen members. He is also a fan of neo-Nazi “black metal” music and was in a band called Opferblut, which means “sacrificial blood” in German; Cole apparently likes to mix Satanism with his fascist ideology.

Wyatt told the Times that the confiscation of Cole’s guns was part of an increased focus on the activities of white supremacist terrorists in the Pacific Northwest by regional law enforcement, noting that their threatening behavior and rhetoric posed a constitutional challenge that the use of “red flag” laws helps them overcome.

“What do you do when there’s a general threat versus one specific individual?” Wyatt observed.​

Seattle confiscates guns belonging to neo-Nazi Atomwaffen group leader​

on the basis of his violent rhetoric and organizing.

Wow....so he said things the government doesn't like and he belongs to a group who likes to train and exercise their 2nd amendment rights....holy shit...this is ridiculous

Citizen you have been deemed a threat and an Extreme Risk Protection Order issued. Your rights are hereby extinguished.

If political, and we have the right people in charge, then our rights won't be infringed upon, but if the wrong people are in charge then look out. Vote conservative is all I can say.

 

[beagle9]

The supreme court will reverse this and Hand his guns back and apologize

How does the supreme Court determine these things on a case by case basis ?? Doesn't the supreme Court mostly look at cases that would set precedence for the people and the nation (larger impact) instead of being bothered by individual cases that can be handled in the lower courts ?

 

[Jitss617]

The supreme court will reverse this and Hand his guns back and apologize

How does the supreme Court determine these things on a case by case basis ?? Doesn't the supreme Court mostly look at cases that would set precedence for the people and the nation (larger impact) instead of being bothered by individual cases that can be handled in the lower courts ?

We all have rights. This does Affect all citizens if they can get away with it

 

[beagle9]

The supreme court will reverse this and Hand his guns back and apologize

How does the supreme Court determine these things on a case by case basis ?? Doesn't the supreme Court mostly look at cases that would set precedence for the people and the nation (larger impact) instead of being bothered by individual cases that can be handled in the lower courts ?

We all have rights. This does Affect all citizens if they can get away with it

Get away with what ?

 

[pknopp]

Wow...

No probable cause..... Just hints at affiliation.. This needs to be slapped down hard and fast...

Not "hints of affiliation". He's the leader of the nutbar militia.

The Constitution guarantees the right of free association no matter how dispicable.

Since 9-11 ?? Just trying to be informed here.

Yes....the Constitution still gaurantees that.

 

[Jitss617]

The supreme court will reverse this and Hand his guns back and apologize

How does the supreme Court determine these things on a case by case basis ?? Doesn't the supreme Court mostly look at cases that would set precedence for the people and the nation (larger impact) instead of being bothered by individual cases that can be handled in the lower courts ?

We all have rights. This does Affect all citizens if they can get away with it

Get away with what ?

Taking his FUCKIN GUNS RETARD

 

[pknopp]

I've read nothing that even suggested that. I suspect you haven't either.

Here's a little more information on Cole and why the FBI was so concerned about what he's been up to:

SEATTLE — A notorious neo-Nazi whose antics have included organizing paramilitary exercises in the woods of western Washington state to prepare for a “race war” has discovered there are limits to organizing violent extremism. Using a so-called “red flag” law, Seattle Police have taken away all of his guns.

Kaleb J. Cole, the 24-year-old leader of the state’s chapter of the violent fascist group Atomwaffen Division (AWD), was ordered by the state’s civil courts to surrender his guns earlier this month, according to a report from Ali Winston of The Daily Beast. The order resulted from Seattle City Police filing an “Extreme Risk Protection” petition against Cole on the basis of his violent rhetoric and organizing.

Cole first came to national attention last year as one of the ringleaders of the neo-Nazi group Atomwaffen Division, exposed in a deep Pro Publica profile of the organization already associated with several murders. A video portrayed him leading a shooting exercise in the woods near the town of Concrete, in the western Cascades Range. He is formerly from the border town of Blaine in Whatcom County, but reportedly moved to Snohomish County near Arlington after the profile was published.

According to Winston’s report, Cole surrendered several firearms, including a pistol and an AK-47 variant with a high-capacity drum magazine. He was photographed with the weapons while participating in an Atomwaffen exercise in Nevada in 2018.

FBI agents greeted Cole at O’Hare International Airport in Chicago last year, according to a report from Mike Baker of The New York Times, upon his return from a trip to Europe in which he apparently hooked up with a number of other far-right extremists. An inspection of photos on his cell phone found he had visited the Auschwitz concentration camp site in Poland with other neo-Nazis, and there were photos showing him and others with the Atomwaffen banner, giving the Nazi salute.

“This was an individual who had access to firearms and was preparing for a race war,” Kimberly Wyatt, a King County prosecutor, told the Times.

Washington’s “red flag” law allows law enforcement or civilians to obtain a court order to confiscate weapons when there is evidence that people are at high risk of harming themselves or others. A similar law in Oregon was recently used to confiscate the weapons of another right-wing extremist, Marine Sgt. Michael Kohfield, who had announced his plan to hunt down and murder antifascists in their homes.

Western Washington has been plagued with the presence of a number of far-right extremists and their organizations the past several years, including street-brawling groups such as Joey Gibson’s Patriot Prayer and the Proud Boys, as well as more violent paramilitary organizations such as Atomwaffen Division and The Base, which recently began holding training exercises in the state’s northeastern corner.

There’s also a fair amount of crossover membership within these groups. A member of the Proud Boys from the Seattle neighborhood of Ballard, Sean-Michael Scott, was recently exposed by Puget Sound Anarchists as another participant in Atomwaffen exercises as well.

According to Winston, Cole liked to use the nom de plume Khimaere in his online exchanges with other Atomwaffen members. He is also a fan of neo-Nazi “black metal” music and was in a band called Opferblut, which means “sacrificial blood” in German; Cole apparently likes to mix Satanism with his fascist ideology.

Wyatt told the Times that the confiscation of Cole’s guns was part of an increased focus on the activities of white supremacist terrorists in the Pacific Northwest by regional law enforcement, noting that their threatening behavior and rhetoric posed a constitutional challenge that the use of “red flag” laws helps them overcome.

“What do you do when there’s a general threat versus one specific individual?” Wyatt observed.​

Seattle confiscates guns belonging to neo-Nazi Atomwaffen group leader​

on the basis of his violent rhetoric and organizing.

Wow....so he said things the government doesn't like and he belongs to a group who likes to train and exercise their 2nd amendment rights....holy shit...this is ridiculous

Citizen you have been deemed a threat and an Extreme Risk Protection Order issued. Your rights are hereby extinguished.

If political, and we have the right people in charge, then our rights won't be infringed upon, but if the wrong people are in charge then look out. Vote conservative is all I can say.

Cop out. "Conservatives" gave us the Patriot Act. Now I'm sure the follow up will be "they were not true Conservatives" and that is the cop out.

Your argument is that there is no one to vote for. We will note, it's still the law under Trump.

 

[beagle9]

Wow...

No probable cause..... Just hints at affiliation.. This needs to be slapped down hard and fast...

Not "hints of affiliation". He's the leader of the nutbar militia.

The Constitution guarantees the right of free association no matter how dispicable.

Since 9-11 ?? Just trying to be informed here.

Yes....the Constitution still gaurantees that.

But what has changed since then ? How is terror be it foreign and/or domestic challenged by law enforcement these days ?

 

[Aletheia4u]

Police seize guns from avowed neo-Nazi in Snohomish County

EXACTLY what we said would happen. First a VETERAN school crossing guard and now someone who had his guns ILLEGALLY taken completely based on his political beliefs and affiliations. This is EXACTLY why they wanted these unconstitutional laws and why they want ALL guns to be registered and bought through people/businesses who have to keep record of who is buying them. Of course on both sides the short sighted mentally deficient won't care about this because his political affiliations hurt their delicate feelings,they won't care until a GOP governor or administration tries taking them from leftists and the GOP lovers won't care until a leftist governor or administration tries taking them from republicans and conservatives. This is a VERY slippery slope that is HIGHLY unconstitutional.

They probably will make laws that we cannot own anything that makes loud sounds that is over 130 decibels in order to protect our ears from being damage. And to reduce greenhouse's gases in order to save the planet..

Does gunpowder produce CO2 - Answers

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

I've read nothing that even suggested that. I suspect you haven't either.

Here's a little more information on Cole and why the FBI was so concerned about what he's been up to:

SEATTLE — A notorious neo-Nazi whose antics have included organizing paramilitary exercises in the woods of western Washington state to prepare for a “race war” has discovered there are limits to organizing violent extremism. Using a so-called “red flag” law, Seattle Police have taken away all of his guns.

Kaleb J. Cole, the 24-year-old leader of the state’s chapter of the violent fascist group Atomwaffen Division (AWD), was ordered by the state’s civil courts to surrender his guns earlier this month, according to a report from Ali Winston of The Daily Beast. The order resulted from Seattle City Police filing an “Extreme Risk Protection” petition against Cole on the basis of his violent rhetoric and organizing.

Cole first came to national attention last year as one of the ringleaders of the neo-Nazi group Atomwaffen Division, exposed in a deep Pro Publica profile of the organization already associated with several murders. A video portrayed him leading a shooting exercise in the woods near the town of Concrete, in the western Cascades Range. He is formerly from the border town of Blaine in Whatcom County, but reportedly moved to Snohomish County near Arlington after the profile was published.

According to Winston’s report, Cole surrendered several firearms, including a pistol and an AK-47 variant with a high-capacity drum magazine. He was photographed with the weapons while participating in an Atomwaffen exercise in Nevada in 2018.

FBI agents greeted Cole at O’Hare International Airport in Chicago last year, according to a report from Mike Baker of The New York Times, upon his return from a trip to Europe in which he apparently hooked up with a number of other far-right extremists. An inspection of photos on his cell phone found he had visited the Auschwitz concentration camp site in Poland with other neo-Nazis, and there were photos showing him and others with the Atomwaffen banner, giving the Nazi salute.

“This was an individual who had access to firearms and was preparing for a race war,” Kimberly Wyatt, a King County prosecutor, told the Times.

Washington’s “red flag” law allows law enforcement or civilians to obtain a court order to confiscate weapons when there is evidence that people are at high risk of harming themselves or others. A similar law in Oregon was recently used to confiscate the weapons of another right-wing extremist, Marine Sgt. Michael Kohfield, who had announced his plan to hunt down and murder antifascists in their homes.

Western Washington has been plagued with the presence of a number of far-right extremists and their organizations the past several years, including street-brawling groups such as Joey Gibson’s Patriot Prayer and the Proud Boys, as well as more violent paramilitary organizations such as Atomwaffen Division and The Base, which recently began holding training exercises in the state’s northeastern corner.

There’s also a fair amount of crossover membership within these groups. A member of the Proud Boys from the Seattle neighborhood of Ballard, Sean-Michael Scott, was recently exposed by Puget Sound Anarchists as another participant in Atomwaffen exercises as well.

According to Winston, Cole liked to use the nom de plume Khimaere in his online exchanges with other Atomwaffen members. He is also a fan of neo-Nazi “black metal” music and was in a band called Opferblut, which means “sacrificial blood” in German; Cole apparently likes to mix Satanism with his fascist ideology.

Wyatt told the Times that the confiscation of Cole’s guns was part of an increased focus on the activities of white supremacist terrorists in the Pacific Northwest by regional law enforcement, noting that their threatening behavior and rhetoric posed a constitutional challenge that the use of “red flag” laws helps them overcome.

“What do you do when there’s a general threat versus one specific individual?” Wyatt observed.​

Seattle confiscates guns belonging to neo-Nazi Atomwaffen group leader​

on the basis of his violent rhetoric and organizing.

Wow....so he said things the government doesn't like and he belongs to a group who likes to train and exercise their 2nd amendment rights....holy shit...this is ridiculous

Is he a member of a neo-nazis group, and are they deemed a terrorist group by the government ?

He is alleged to be the self-proclaimed leader of the Washington division of Atomwaffen. I don't know if the FBI considers Atomwaffen a terrorist organization but I first heard of them during an investigative TV program in connection with the murder of a jewish young man in Orange County California.

The Atomwaffen Division (AWD) or simply Atomwaffen is a neo-Nazi organization based in Florida that promotes former American Nazi Party member, founder of the defunct National Socialist Liberation Front (NSLF) convict James Mason's Siege and "Universal Order" ideology as well as race war against minorities, Jews, and LGBT people including ties to Satanism. The group has about 24 and 36 to about 80 active members and 20 cells across 23 states in America. The organization also has a United Kingdom branch called the Sonnenkrieg Division (SKD), a presence in Canada by a group called Northern Order and one located in Germany. The organization has been responsible for the deaths of eight people most notably the Murder of Blaze Bernstein a gay Jewish California student and the killings of Jeremy Himmelman and Andrew Oneschuk.​

 

[bodecea]

Hopefully he is able to counter this in the courts.

Its Washington. I doubt it's going to happen. Just another state where over half the state is conservative but is controlled by leftists in Western Washington just like Oregon is.

It surprises people, but nearly half of California is conservative.

Half of the population of California?

 

[DOTR]

I've read nothing that even suggested that. I suspect you haven't either.

Here's a little more information on Cole and why the FBI was so concerned about what he's been up to:

SEATTLE — A notorious neo-Nazi whose antics have included organizing paramilitary exercises in the woods of western Washington state to prepare for a “race war” has discovered there are limits to organizing violent extremism. Using a so-called “red flag” law, Seattle Police have taken away all of his guns.

Kaleb J. Cole, the 24-year-old leader of the state’s chapter of the violent fascist group Atomwaffen Division (AWD), was ordered by the state’s civil courts to surrender his guns earlier this month, according to a report from Ali Winston of The Daily Beast. The order resulted from Seattle City Police filing an “Extreme Risk Protection” petition against Cole on the basis of his violent rhetoric and organizing.

Cole first came to national attention last year as one of the ringleaders of the neo-Nazi group Atomwaffen Division, exposed in a deep Pro Publica profile of the organization already associated with several murders. A video portrayed him leading a shooting exercise in the woods near the town of Concrete, in the western Cascades Range. He is formerly from the border town of Blaine in Whatcom County, but reportedly moved to Snohomish County near Arlington after the profile was published.

According to Winston’s report, Cole surrendered several firearms, including a pistol and an AK-47 variant with a high-capacity drum magazine. He was photographed with the weapons while participating in an Atomwaffen exercise in Nevada in 2018.

FBI agents greeted Cole at O’Hare International Airport in Chicago last year, according to a report from Mike Baker of The New York Times, upon his return from a trip to Europe in which he apparently hooked up with a number of other far-right extremists. An inspection of photos on his cell phone found he had visited the Auschwitz concentration camp site in Poland with other neo-Nazis, and there were photos showing him and others with the Atomwaffen banner, giving the Nazi salute.

“This was an individual who had access to firearms and was preparing for a race war,” Kimberly Wyatt, a King County prosecutor, told the Times.

Washington’s “red flag” law allows law enforcement or civilians to obtain a court order to confiscate weapons when there is evidence that people are at high risk of harming themselves or others. A similar law in Oregon was recently used to confiscate the weapons of another right-wing extremist, Marine Sgt. Michael Kohfield, who had announced his plan to hunt down and murder antifascists in their homes.

Western Washington has been plagued with the presence of a number of far-right extremists and their organizations the past several years, including street-brawling groups such as Joey Gibson’s Patriot Prayer and the Proud Boys, as well as more violent paramilitary organizations such as Atomwaffen Division and The Base, which recently began holding training exercises in the state’s northeastern corner.

There’s also a fair amount of crossover membership within these groups. A member of the Proud Boys from the Seattle neighborhood of Ballard, Sean-Michael Scott, was recently exposed by Puget Sound Anarchists as another participant in Atomwaffen exercises as well.

According to Winston, Cole liked to use the nom de plume Khimaere in his online exchanges with other Atomwaffen members. He is also a fan of neo-Nazi “black metal” music and was in a band called Opferblut, which means “sacrificial blood” in German; Cole apparently likes to mix Satanism with his fascist ideology.

Wyatt told the Times that the confiscation of Cole’s guns was part of an increased focus on the activities of white supremacist terrorists in the Pacific Northwest by regional law enforcement, noting that their threatening behavior and rhetoric posed a constitutional challenge that the use of “red flag” laws helps them overcome.

“What do you do when there’s a general threat versus one specific individual?” Wyatt observed.​

Seattle confiscates guns belonging to neo-Nazi Atomwaffen group leader​

on the basis of his violent rhetoric and organizing.

Wow....so he said things the government doesn't like and he belongs to a group who likes to train and exercise their 2nd amendment rights....holy shit...this is ridiculous

Citizen you have been deemed a threat and an Extreme Risk Protection Order issued. Your rights are hereby extinguished.

If political, and we have the right people in charge, then our rights won't be infringed upon, but if the wrong people are in charge then look out. Vote conservative is all I can say.

Cop out. "Conservatives" gave us the Patriot Act. Now I'm sure the follow up will be "they were not true Conservatives" and that is the cop out.

Your argument is that there is no one to vote for. We will note, it's still the law under Trump.

I havent seen many posts from you but so far every one follows the typical liberal gameplan of "hang you by your own petard".
Wont work here. I am not a conservative. And Im not interested in joining any "true conservatives" who oppose Trump. That didnt work during the election and it wont work now.

I never argued there was no one to vote for. I voted for Trump. Will do so again. "True Conservatives" be damned.

 

[DOTR]

I've read nothing that even suggested that. I suspect you haven't either.

Here's a little more information on Cole and why the FBI was so concerned about what he's been up to:

SEATTLE — A notorious neo-Nazi whose antics have included organizing paramilitary exercises in the woods of western Washington state to prepare for a “race war” has discovered there are limits to organizing violent extremism. Using a so-called “red flag” law, Seattle Police have taken away all of his guns.

Kaleb J. Cole, the 24-year-old leader of the state’s chapter of the violent fascist group Atomwaffen Division (AWD), was ordered by the state’s civil courts to surrender his guns earlier this month, according to a report from Ali Winston of The Daily Beast. The order resulted from Seattle City Police filing an “Extreme Risk Protection” petition against Cole on the basis of his violent rhetoric and organizing.

Cole first came to national attention last year as one of the ringleaders of the neo-Nazi group Atomwaffen Division, exposed in a deep Pro Publica profile of the organization already associated with several murders. A video portrayed him leading a shooting exercise in the woods near the town of Concrete, in the western Cascades Range. He is formerly from the border town of Blaine in Whatcom County, but reportedly moved to Snohomish County near Arlington after the profile was published.

According to Winston’s report, Cole surrendered several firearms, including a pistol and an AK-47 variant with a high-capacity drum magazine. He was photographed with the weapons while participating in an Atomwaffen exercise in Nevada in 2018.

FBI agents greeted Cole at O’Hare International Airport in Chicago last year, according to a report from Mike Baker of The New York Times, upon his return from a trip to Europe in which he apparently hooked up with a number of other far-right extremists. An inspection of photos on his cell phone found he had visited the Auschwitz concentration camp site in Poland with other neo-Nazis, and there were photos showing him and others with the Atomwaffen banner, giving the Nazi salute.

“This was an individual who had access to firearms and was preparing for a race war,” Kimberly Wyatt, a King County prosecutor, told the Times.

Washington’s “red flag” law allows law enforcement or civilians to obtain a court order to confiscate weapons when there is evidence that people are at high risk of harming themselves or others. A similar law in Oregon was recently used to confiscate the weapons of another right-wing extremist, Marine Sgt. Michael Kohfield, who had announced his plan to hunt down and murder antifascists in their homes.

Western Washington has been plagued with the presence of a number of far-right extremists and their organizations the past several years, including street-brawling groups such as Joey Gibson’s Patriot Prayer and the Proud Boys, as well as more violent paramilitary organizations such as Atomwaffen Division and The Base, which recently began holding training exercises in the state’s northeastern corner.

There’s also a fair amount of crossover membership within these groups. A member of the Proud Boys from the Seattle neighborhood of Ballard, Sean-Michael Scott, was recently exposed by Puget Sound Anarchists as another participant in Atomwaffen exercises as well.

According to Winston, Cole liked to use the nom de plume Khimaere in his online exchanges with other Atomwaffen members. He is also a fan of neo-Nazi “black metal” music and was in a band called Opferblut, which means “sacrificial blood” in German; Cole apparently likes to mix Satanism with his fascist ideology.

Wyatt told the Times that the confiscation of Cole’s guns was part of an increased focus on the activities of white supremacist terrorists in the Pacific Northwest by regional law enforcement, noting that their threatening behavior and rhetoric posed a constitutional challenge that the use of “red flag” laws helps them overcome.

“What do you do when there’s a general threat versus one specific individual?” Wyatt observed.​

Seattle confiscates guns belonging to neo-Nazi Atomwaffen group leader​

on the basis of his violent rhetoric and organizing.

Wow....so he said things the government doesn't like and he belongs to a group who likes to train and exercise their 2nd amendment rights....holy shit...this is ridiculous

Citizen you have been deemed a threat and an Extreme Risk Protection Order issued. Your rights are hereby extinguished.

If political, and we have the right people in charge, then our rights won't be infringed upon, but if the wrong people are in charge then look out. Vote conservative is all I can say.

I would say that Washington and Oregon have the "wrong people" in charge.

 

[pknopp]

Wow...

No probable cause..... Just hints at affiliation.. This needs to be slapped down hard and fast...

Not "hints of affiliation". He's the leader of the nutbar militia.

The Constitution guarantees the right of free association no matter how dispicable.

Since 9-11 ?? Just trying to be informed here.

Yes....the Constitution still gaurantees that.

But what has changed since then ? How is terror be it foreign and/or domestic challenged by law enforcement these days ?

People pee their pants when they see a brown person.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Good job by the police.

Communist sympathizers (liberals) shouldn't have guns either

 

[DOTR]

People pee their pants when they see a brown person.

Must be those "true conservatives".

 

[pknopp]

Here's a little more information on Cole and why the FBI was so concerned about what he's been up to:

SEATTLE — A notorious neo-Nazi whose antics have included organizing paramilitary exercises in the woods of western Washington state to prepare for a “race war” has discovered there are limits to organizing violent extremism. Using a so-called “red flag” law, Seattle Police have taken away all of his guns.

Kaleb J. Cole, the 24-year-old leader of the state’s chapter of the violent fascist group Atomwaffen Division (AWD), was ordered by the state’s civil courts to surrender his guns earlier this month, according to a report from Ali Winston of The Daily Beast. The order resulted from Seattle City Police filing an “Extreme Risk Protection” petition against Cole on the basis of his violent rhetoric and organizing.

Cole first came to national attention last year as one of the ringleaders of the neo-Nazi group Atomwaffen Division, exposed in a deep Pro Publica profile of the organization already associated with several murders. A video portrayed him leading a shooting exercise in the woods near the town of Concrete, in the western Cascades Range. He is formerly from the border town of Blaine in Whatcom County, but reportedly moved to Snohomish County near Arlington after the profile was published.

According to Winston’s report, Cole surrendered several firearms, including a pistol and an AK-47 variant with a high-capacity drum magazine. He was photographed with the weapons while participating in an Atomwaffen exercise in Nevada in 2018.

FBI agents greeted Cole at O’Hare International Airport in Chicago last year, according to a report from Mike Baker of The New York Times, upon his return from a trip to Europe in which he apparently hooked up with a number of other far-right extremists. An inspection of photos on his cell phone found he had visited the Auschwitz concentration camp site in Poland with other neo-Nazis, and there were photos showing him and others with the Atomwaffen banner, giving the Nazi salute.

“This was an individual who had access to firearms and was preparing for a race war,” Kimberly Wyatt, a King County prosecutor, told the Times.

Washington’s “red flag” law allows law enforcement or civilians to obtain a court order to confiscate weapons when there is evidence that people are at high risk of harming themselves or others. A similar law in Oregon was recently used to confiscate the weapons of another right-wing extremist, Marine Sgt. Michael Kohfield, who had announced his plan to hunt down and murder antifascists in their homes.

Western Washington has been plagued with the presence of a number of far-right extremists and their organizations the past several years, including street-brawling groups such as Joey Gibson’s Patriot Prayer and the Proud Boys, as well as more violent paramilitary organizations such as Atomwaffen Division and The Base, which recently began holding training exercises in the state’s northeastern corner.

There’s also a fair amount of crossover membership within these groups. A member of the Proud Boys from the Seattle neighborhood of Ballard, Sean-Michael Scott, was recently exposed by Puget Sound Anarchists as another participant in Atomwaffen exercises as well.

According to Winston, Cole liked to use the nom de plume Khimaere in his online exchanges with other Atomwaffen members. He is also a fan of neo-Nazi “black metal” music and was in a band called Opferblut, which means “sacrificial blood” in German; Cole apparently likes to mix Satanism with his fascist ideology.

Wyatt told the Times that the confiscation of Cole’s guns was part of an increased focus on the activities of white supremacist terrorists in the Pacific Northwest by regional law enforcement, noting that their threatening behavior and rhetoric posed a constitutional challenge that the use of “red flag” laws helps them overcome.

“What do you do when there’s a general threat versus one specific individual?” Wyatt observed.​

Seattle confiscates guns belonging to neo-Nazi Atomwaffen group leader​

on the basis of his violent rhetoric and organizing.

Wow....so he said things the government doesn't like and he belongs to a group who likes to train and exercise their 2nd amendment rights....holy shit...this is ridiculous

Citizen you have been deemed a threat and an Extreme Risk Protection Order issued. Your rights are hereby extinguished.

If political, and we have the right people in charge, then our rights won't be infringed upon, but if the wrong people are in charge then look out. Vote conservative is all I can say.

Cop out. "Conservatives" gave us the Patriot Act. Now I'm sure the follow up will be "they were not true Conservatives" and that is the cop out.

Your argument is that there is no one to vote for. We will note, it's still the law under Trump.

I havent seen many posts from you but so far every one follows the typical liberal gameplan of "hang you by your own petard".
Wont work here. I am not a conservative. And Im not interested in joining any "true conservatives" who oppose Trump. That didnt work during the election and it wont work now.

I never argued there was no one to vote for. I voted for Trump. Will do so again. "True Conservatives" be damned.

So you'll vote to continue the authoritarian practices. Whatever. I replied to a statement that to end this we have to elect Conservatives. I pointed out that "Conservatives" are just as bad.

You are free to elect your brand of bad if you want.

 

[pknopp]

People pee their pants when they see a brown person.

Must be those "true conservatives".

It's a large majority of everyone.