Police Suicide Rate

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    so how many innocent Hispanic children have you murdered?
     
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    This is a good question. One has to ask what type of person is attracted to work in the police. Is there an element of being tough and bossy. Then there is an attraction of firearms.

    Whatever the reasons why people are attracted to police work, it does appear that many take the job home with them and then take-out their stress on the family members.
     
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    It is interesting that Chicago has a double distinction. First, as one of the most corrupt police departments, and second, as having a high suicide rate among officers. I can't help but imagine that the two are interconnected.

    I've written before that I believe most people who join the police are people who were picked on in High School, and it has affected them, badly. Some people who join are almost certainly naieve. These are the ones who join thinking they are something akin to the propaganda about being modern crusaders. They are the ones who deserve the thin blue line, because that is why they join. To protect the citizens, not just wrap themselves in the verbiage to justify their excessive behavior.

    Now, imagine how those people think, and feel. They thought they were joining the good guys. It is physically repugnant to lie under oath for them. Even if they aren't abusing people, planting evidence, and lying about it, they feel the need to protect those who are. That brotherhood of the badge. They know if they report good old Bob for beating the snot out of the guy in handcuffs, that the other cops won't back them up when they need it.

    The sociopathic types won't commit suicide. They are too self absorbed to even consider it. The ones who will take that final step are people who take a look in the mirror and can't live with what they've become. The Boy Scout types will feel isolated, and alone, and worst of all cornered. They can't imagine starting their lives over away from the cops. They may fear what the others will do if they decide to just quit and walk away. Worse, how do they become one of "them". The regular people who have faith in the Police, the types who are the cornerstone of the public support for law enforcement.

    The book answer, stand up and tell the truth is tantamount to suicide. Just walking away is worse, especially if they have soothed their conscience by telling themselves that they are doing what they can to minimize the actions of the brutal, the pathological, the corrupt. What a position they would find themselves in. Not only protecting society from the criminal, but from those who are like himself supposedly trying to serve them.

    They can't see themselves as a Serpico, one cop who stands up and exposes the truth. They know Serpico was shot because his fellow cops left him out there exposed. They know that Serpico got "get well" cards with scrawled why didn't you die scumbag scribbled inside while in the Hospital. Serpico overheard the cops who carried him to the Hospital say that if they had known it was Serpico who got shot they would have left him there to die.

    That kind of courage is so amazingly rare that it is unimaginable. Another poster talked about the stress for family that the officers bring home. That stress is another sign. When you don't like what you are doing, the stress is multiplied. Take your own experiences. Remember fellow employees who were unhappy at work, and how that fed the home life unhappiness.
     
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    Two NYPD suicides in a span of two weeks last month...
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    Mayor 'Very Concerned' About NYPD Suicides
    February 4, 2017 - Mayor Bill de Blasio was "very concerned" that two cops on Staten Island committed suicide in a span of two weeks last month.
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    NYPD Officer Found Dead in Apparent Suicide
    January 31, 2017 - NYPD Officer Ralph Conde was found dead Monday in his home from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound.

     
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    Third Chicago Police Officer Takes Own Life in Two Months...
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    Third Chicago Police Officer Takes Own Life in Two Months


    September 13, 2018 - A Chicago police officer apparently fatally shot herself in the parking lot of a Far South Side police station Wednesday morning
     
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    sure --- murder---children
    :rolleyes-41:
     
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    Assault with deadly weapon in that case.



    Shall I continue?
     
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    1. he used the word ''children'' --plural
    2. that is NOT murder
    ?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    wtf are you talking about??
    you are WAY off subject/etc.......not even close
    when you get an example that is even fairly close, let me know
     
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    High rate is due to illness, stress, personal problems. Some LEO s never have the problems but you get the weak who just should have never gotten involved in the Job. You do get into cases where as a first responder that mouth to mouth can get you a illness that will kill you. Some Police divers dive in places you would not want to stand next to, such as sewage canals, outlet pipes and other place like those. Health is a problem. You have other who are not very mentally able to handle the killing of another person, killing someone stays with you the rest of your life. Many cops think they can handle any problem, and are not able to speak of it in fear of losing there job. So they do have a full plate to deal with. I forgot the 7 to 10 year burn out that happens.
     
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    My roommate and I were made to attend a class on stress, and afterwards we were joking that we did not know we were suppose to get stressed out over our job. Dumb as a rock I suppose. I never had stress from the job, just from the management of the dept.
    It seems that they were making rules that would get us killed if they were followed.
     
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