Police stop prayers outside White House

[Uncensored2008]

Does the bible say "be thee not stupid" ?

If it does, you're going to hell.....

 

[Uncensored2008]

They were not arrested for praying in public.

They WANTED to be arrested, they stated before hand that their intent was to be arrested.

 

[BlindBoo]

They were not arrested for praying in public.

They WANTED to be arrested, they stated before hand that their intent was to be arrested.

Exactly. Which is why Katzndogz's post makes no sense.

"Because there is a phrase in the Bible that tells people to pray in private, what makes it the obligation of the law to prevent them from praying in public? Unless the police are enforcing Biblical law (as they see it) they should be leaving people alone.

 

[jtpr312]

You must not be reading the same Matthew:

6 “Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.

2 “So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 3 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

Seems VERY anti public prayer to me. Not to mention, Mathew is very clear about charitable donations too...shut up about 'em.

The verse addresses motives for public praying not a ban on public praying. The reason you don't understand this is that you don't know the scriptures. The book of Psalms, almost entirely written by a man God called, "A man after my own heart" are recorded public prayers put to songs sung IN PUBLIC. I gave you chapter and verse right on this thread of examples of the Lord, the Apostles, the Prophets and various other men and woman of God engaging in "public prayer". The Lord, would not engage in an action that He banned others from doing.

How can anyone be "sure" of anything coming from a book so full of contradictions, misinterpretations and mistranslations?
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Pray in private is what the man said. Singing the praises of your god isn't the same as praying. Proselytizing, isn't the same as praying. Praying is something your god told you, quite clearly, to do behind closed doors.

The people in the OP's little made up story didn't do that. In fact, praying wasn't what they were about at all. They went there with the intention of getting arrested for breaking the law. Now, not only do they have to square with man's law...they may have to talk to god about disobeying his requirement to pray to him in private. Tsk, tsk....

hOSEA 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee.
Psalms ARE prayers put to music.
PSALM 72:20 The prayers of David the son of Jesse are ended.


I never addrressed the motives of those that were arrested, as I think if you tresspass you need to be arrested. Not the point I was addressing, I was addressing the incorrect teaching that Jesus banned public prayer.

 

[jtpr312]

You must not be reading the same Matthew:

6 “Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.

2 “So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 3 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

Seems VERY anti public prayer to me. Not to mention, Mathew is very clear about charitable donations too...shut up about 'em.

The verse addresses motives for public praying not a ban on public praying. The reason you don't understand this is that you don't know the scriptures. The book of Psalms, almost entirely written by a man God called, "A man after my own heart" are recorded public prayers put to songs sung IN PUBLIC. I gave you chapter and verse right on this thread of examples of the Lord, the Apostles, the Prophets and various other men and woman of God engaging in "public prayer". The Lord, would not engage in an action that He banned others from doing.

Yes and motive was what this event was all about.

I know nothing about this event and have no interest in the event, I was merely addressing the incorrect teachings put forth by a heathen that Jesus banned public prayer and that Christians are biblically commaned not to pray in public. Nothing else.