Police make “pre-emptive” arrests before Royal wedding

[JBeukema]

The police made some arrests on the grounds that people might be considering planning a breach of the peace, without evidence that any crime had been—or was going to be—committed. People were arrested for carrying anti-monarchy placards, for singing protest songs, or even for wearing zombie make-up in a coffee shop.

In Kelvingrove Park in Glasgow, around 6,000 people turned up for an unofficial party. The organisers called for it to end at 5 p.m. When it did not, police moved in to break it up. They later sent in police horses. Twenty-two people were arrested.

The social networking site Facebook deleted around 50 activists’ sites and pages on Friday, in a move widely suspected of being coordinated with the police.

Police make ?pre-emptive? arrests before Royal wedding

 

[alexa]

The police made some arrests on the grounds that people might be considering planning a breach of the peace, without evidence that any crime had been—or was going to be—committed. People were arrested for carrying anti-monarchy placards, for singing protest songs, or even for wearing zombie make-up in a coffee shop.

In Kelvingrove Park in Glasgow, around 6,000 people turned up for an unofficial party. The organisers called for it to end at 5 p.m. When it did not, police moved in to break it up. They later sent in police horses. Twenty-two people were arrested.

The social networking site Facebook deleted around 50 activists’ sites and pages on Friday, in a move widely suspected of being coordinated with the police.

Police make ?pre-emptive? arrests before Royal wedding

Last I had heard 'Muslims against Crusades' were wanting to do a protest along the wedding route and were offered an alternative and originally said no. This apparently changed

The Muslim extremists who threatened disruption at the royal wedding said they have agreed to stay away amid fears they could be targeted for attacks.
Muslims Against Crusades (MAC) announced they have abandoned protest plans as they were heckled by passers-by in an impromptu press conference outside parliament.

Muslim protesters agree to stay away over attack fears - Scotsman.com News

However it should not be assumed that the Glasgow one was related to Muslims. The Royal Wedding was not so popular in some sections of Scotland.

Here is the Guardian on the Glasgow protest. The arrests seem to have come more from drunkenness - and although Muslims find it far more easy identifying as being Scottish rather than English, the biggest difficulty they claim to integration is the drunkenness of the Scots.

Royal wedding party in Glasgow ends with 21 arrests | UK news | guardian.co.uk

Edit: What I am saying is that that article does not sound right in what happened in Scotland so I think it may be over dramatising things.

I know they would have done everything possible to avoid a demonstration on route but as the article above shows, demonstrators on the route would probably themselves have been in danger. Hence they chose not to do this. I am sure that they would have arrested anyone they thought might want to be planning terrorist activities. Our anti terror laws have definitely interfered with personal liberties but I am unaware of them going as far as outlawing protest and where your article indicates the Glasgow people will be arrested for 'terrorism' the Guardian one indicates it is for throwing bottles and being drunk and disorderly.

 

[Mad Scientist]

The Brits don't exactly have a "Constitution" and a "Bill of Rights" you know.

 

[editec]

It's ENGLAND, man.

What do you expect?

They take their ARISTOS safety very seriously

 

[tigerbob]

The police made some arrests on the grounds that people might be considering planning a breach of the peace, without evidence that any crime had been—or was going to be—committed. People were arrested for carrying anti-monarchy placards, for singing protest songs, or even for wearing zombie make-up in a coffee shop.

In Kelvingrove Park in Glasgow, around 6,000 people turned up for an unofficial party. The organisers called for it to end at 5 p.m. When it did not, police moved in to break it up. They later sent in police horses. Twenty-two people were arrested.

The social networking site Facebook deleted around 50 activists’ sites and pages on Friday, in a move widely suspected of being coordinated with the police.

Police make ?pre-emptive? arrests before Royal wedding

Big deal.

 

[Intense]

Like we don't do stuff like that?

 

[tigerbob]

It's ENGLAND, man.

What do you expect?

They take their ARISTOS safety very seriously

 

[tigerbob]

Like we don't do stuff like that?

Are you suggesting that posters should think about stuff before they post it?

 

[editec]

Like we don't do stuff like that?

Are you suggesting that posters should think about stuff before they post it?

Oh my god NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

The amount of posting here would dwindle down to nothing if that happened.

 

[California Girl]

Like we don't do stuff like that?

Yea, we do. Some of us apparently don't like other countries to do likewise.

The Brit police do this a lot... particularly with any big football (soccer) match anywhere. They arrest known troublemakers in order to stop them attending the match. It's no big deal.

 

[tigerbob]

Like we don't do stuff like that?

Yea, we do. Some of us apparently don't like other countries to do likewise.

The Brit police do this a lot... particularly with any big football (soccer) match anywhere. They arrest known troublemakers in order to stop them attending the match. It's no big deal.

And, amazingly, it works!

 

[California Girl]

Like we don't do stuff like that?

Yea, we do. Some of us apparently don't like other countries to do likewise.

The Brit police do this a lot... particularly with any big football (soccer) match anywhere. They arrest known troublemakers in order to stop them attending the match. It's no big deal.

And, amazingly, it works!

Yep, it certainly does.

I, personally, think the Brit police did a great job policing the wedding. Saw some footage of a police officer playing with the crowd while they were waiting for the royals to start parading through the streets. And watched them keep the crowd in check as they made their way down the Mall... kudos to them for a job well done.

 

[JBeukema]

So CG is now on record supporting the arrest of persons who've broken no law?

 

[tigerbob]

So CG is now on record supporting the arrest of persons who've broken no law?

No.

She's referring to, as she said, "known troublemakers". These are individuals who have previously caused trouble at soccer matches (that's the "known troublemakers" bit, just in case you missed it) and are the subject of banning orders.

They are subject to strict controls on match days, and if they fail to comply they are subject to arrest. The offense they commit is going to a football game when they know they are banned, or failing to register on the appointed days.

Having lived in England, she's now familiar with the process, and also the fact that it's all quite reasonable, legal, and effective.

You might want to ask rather than accuse next time, particularly when you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[alexa]

Well on Monday 4 Bangladeshi men from London were stopped for a spot check near Sellafield and when it was found they were taking photographs they were arrested.

This is particularly being mentioned in relation to the expected attempts at retaliation for Bin Laden.

Are they innocent? This was not as a result of police watching them as such arrests usually are but more because they were Bangladeshi, it was a nuclear facility, they were taking photographs and fear of terrorism.

It is obviously a balance of civil liberties and security.

Hopefully if they are innocent they will be swiftly released with apology. If they were planning something, good catch.

BBC News - Sellafield nuclear site terror arrests made

 

[Toronado3800]

It is England afterall, not the United States. With the exception of our racial/Southern fried slavery crisis we have been ahead of them in most human rights issues since 1776ish.

 

[tigerbob]

It is England afterall, not the United States. With the exception of our racial/Southern fried slavery crisis we have been ahead of them in most human rights issues since 1776ish.

Sigh....

 

[California Girl]

It is England afterall, not the United States. With the exception of our racial/Southern fried slavery crisis we have been ahead of them in most human rights issues since 1776ish.

Except.... it happens in the US too.

But please don't let fact get in the way.

 

[alexa]

Which does not mean that there are not problems with our terror laws as you will know,

28 days without charge even when reduced to 14 is far to long. I would like to see it only more than 48 hours with exceptional approval by the home secretary and I am not sure exactly how they are changing the control orders but the current situation where people are virtually under house arrest when they are often innocent is not acceptable.

I was glad to see the change in surveillance laws

Surveillance: the use of surveillance operations by local authorities under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (Ripa) to be restricted to cases where the offence carries a prison sentence of at least six months. Investigations into underage alcohol and tobacco sales to be exempted.

and that they particularly mention local authorities misuse of them. No more using terrorism laws to fine you for putting your rubbish in the wrong bins! or putting them out too early!

Control orders: home secretary tables watered-down regime | Law | guardian.co.uk