Bull Ring Pogo posted question on political parties compared with cancer

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  1. emilynghiem
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    Cities with high gun crime rates = democrat mayors, lack of police...

    1. Pogo posted this question asking if I were comparing a political party to cancer

    2. If you read my previous comment in that thread
    I was explaining the DIFFERENCE between "causation" and "correlation"

    The STRUCTURE was this:
    Democrats:crime ::
    smoking:cancer

    I was saying the argument is whether you can prove causation
    or if you can at least agree there is correlation going on even if you can't prove direct cause

    3. Pogo insists it was me who "was making an analogy"
    comparing a political party (Democrats) with Cancer.

    4. But if you look at the structure, they are not in the same place.

    Democrats:crime ::
    smoking:cancer

    My point was that the Democrats' attitude and belief about depending on govt
    CORRELATES with poverty and crime, instead of breaking out of this cycle of oppression.

    it was
    1. NOT about the party itself but the POLITICAL BELIEF in depending on govt
    2. My point was just because factors are CORRELATED does not mean they are CAUSE/EFFECT
    3. and lastly, if you look at the structure of the "comparison"
    CRIME was in the same position as CANCER
    (not political beliefs or party)

    So I want to clarify that, and if Pogo still argues
    will someone please explain this better.


    Democrats:crime ::
    smoking:cancer

    it's clear to me that crime/cancer were listed as the effects
    being blamed on the correlated factors.

    So Pogo might have been right about my comparing
    cancer with CRIME which occupies the same position in that "comparison"

    NOTE: My REAL comparison was contrasting a
    CORRELATED relations
    as opposed to a
    CAUSAL relationship.

    So Pogo missed my entire point anyway, by continuing to
    go on and on about causality which I was contesting as my whole point!
     
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    Pogo is not really what you would call sharp.
     
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    My point was that the Democrats' attitude and belief about depending on govt
    You do not know what a democrat believes.

    CORRELATES with poverty and crime, instead of breaking out of this cycle of oppression.
    This is the result of republican policies.
     
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    Pogo has a sock?
     

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