Please...

[Sky Dancer]

The reality is that they are ass hole dicks who were raised like pigs who have zero common sense or youthful training to cover their mouths when they cough or sneeze.

Ya cant get much more real than that.

You can't get much more real than having compassion for someone who is sick. Lend them a kleenex, wash your own hands and tell them they probably ought to be home in bed.

Etiquette Nazi's cause their own misery.

I have ineradicable compassion for the sick... or do you forget my past training? I do give Kleenex..and cough drops and carry pruell. I do sanitize anything that is for public use that i would need to touch, i do wash my hands, i do change clothes when i get home.....

And for all of that...

It does not excuse them for their bad behavior. It does not excuse them from not covering their mouths while coughing and sneezing.

Sure. It's polite to cover your mouth and nose when you sneeze and it's wise to stay home when you're sick.

It's stupid to criticise other people for not doing what is polite or wise.

 

[syrenn]

You can't get much more real than having compassion for someone who is sick. Lend them a kleenex, wash your own hands and tell them they probably ought to be home in bed.

Etiquette Nazi's cause their own misery.

I have ineradicable compassion for the sick... or do you forget my past training? I do give Kleenex..and cough drops and carry pruell. I do sanitize anything that is for public use that i would need to touch, i do wash my hands, i do change clothes when i get home.....

And for all of that...

It does not excuse them for their bad behavior. It does not excuse them from not covering their mouths while coughing and sneezing.

Sure. It's polite to cover your mouth and nose when you sneeze and it's wise to stay home when you're sick.

It's stupid to criticise other people for not doing what is polite or wise.

Actually its very good to criticize them, and in public... to hopefully humiliate them into learning some common sense manners.

 

[Sky Dancer]

I have ineradicable compassion for the sick... or do you forget my past training? I do give Kleenex..and cough drops and carry pruell. I do sanitize anything that is for public use that i would need to touch, i do wash my hands, i do change clothes when i get home.....

And for all of that...

It does not excuse them for their bad behavior. It does not excuse them from not covering their mouths while coughing and sneezing.

Sure. It's polite to cover your mouth and nose when you sneeze and it's wise to stay home when you're sick.

It's stupid to criticise other people for not doing what is polite or wise.

Actually its very good to criticize them, and in public... to hopefully humiliate them into learning some common sense manners.

Kindness works. Humiliation doesn't.

 

[syrenn]

Sure. It's polite to cover your mouth and nose when you sneeze and it's wise to stay home when you're sick.

It's stupid to criticise other people for not doing what is polite or wise.

Actually its very good to criticize them, and in public... to hopefully humiliate them into learning some common sense manners.

Kindness works. Humiliation doesn't.

Ignoring bad behavior is not a kindness... not to them or to anyone else. Humiliating someone for not covering their mouths in public may get them to change their disgusting public behavior though.

 

[koshergrl]

I didn't humiliate her at all. They're pissing and moaning because I didn't.

I just complained because she was an inconsiderate yahoo.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Oh, alright. Complain away. No harm, no foul.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Actually its very good to criticize them, and in public... to hopefully humiliate them into learning some common sense manners.

Kindness works. Humiliation doesn't.

Ignoring bad behavior is not a kindness... not to them or to anyone else. Humiliating someone for not covering their mouths in public may get them to change their disgusting public behavior though.

I completely disagree with you. Humiliation is a form of abuse. It is NOT an effective changer of behavior.

Think Abu Ghraib.

 

[koshergrl]

Oh. My. God.

That almost looks like an about face.

It couldn't be. I must be seeing things....

 

[koshergrl]

Nobody humiliated anyone in the library.

And CONSTRUCTIVE criticism isn't about humiliation. It's the way people learn.

 

[syrenn]

Kindness works. Humiliation doesn't.

Ignoring bad behavior is not a kindness... not to them or to anyone else. Humiliating someone for not covering their mouths in public may get them to change their disgusting public behavior though.

I completely disagree with you. Humiliation is a form of abuse. It is NOT an effective changer of behavior.

Think Abu Ghraib.

I do think its a very effective form of behavior modification.


Think peer review.

 

[Sky Dancer]

syrenn is not interested in giving anyone constructive criticism. She thinks someone should be belittled to make them change.

I disagree.

Abusive methods don't work.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Ignoring bad behavior is not a kindness... not to them or to anyone else. Humiliating someone for not covering their mouths in public may get them to change their disgusting public behavior though.

I completely disagree with you. Humiliation is a form of abuse. It is NOT an effective changer of behavior.

Think Abu Ghraib.

I do think its a very effective form of behavior modification.


Think peer review.

Peer review done well is not humiliation. YOu think scorn, ridicule, and abuse are effective behavior modifications.

I do not.

Soldiers pissed all over prisoners to humiliate them. Is that supposed to make them not be terrorists?

Sadistic methods of behavior modification may gratify people who get off on that kind of thing, but they do not modify behavior effectively.

 

[Truthmatters]

We agree there sky.

It demeans them and not me.

What many dont understand is my ability to not take their silliness personally.

Its not about me, they dont evern know me.

They do end up knowing the facts evern if they pretend they dont know them.

They all now know more about the republican parties decades long fight to keep American voting.

They dont like knowing it but its in there brains now.

Facts cant hurt them they can only help them even if they pretend not to know tem.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Oh. My. God.

That almost looks like an about face.

It couldn't be. I must be seeing things....

What looks like a face?

 

[koshergrl]

Huh?

How did we get from complaining about slobbering on public keyboards to abu ghraib?

Where is the sanity?

 

[koshergrl]

Oh. My. God.

That almost looks like an about face.

It couldn't be. I must be seeing things....

What looks like a face?

Oh, I get it.

You're under the influence. I should have known .

 

[syrenn]

I completely disagree with you. Humiliation is a form of abuse. It is NOT an effective changer of behavior.

Think Abu Ghraib.

I do think its a very effective form of behavior modification.


Think peer review.

Peer review done well is not humiliation. YOu think scorn, ridicule, and abuse are effective behavior modifications.

I do not.

Soldiers pissed all over prisoners to humiliate them. Is that supposed to make them not be terrorists?

Sadistic methods of behavior modification may gratify people who get off on that kind of thing, but they do not modify behavior effectively.

I really dont care about what happened there. It was not me so has nothing to do with this conversation.

Calling someone on the carpet for being discussing in a pubic place is more then acceptable as far as i am concerned.

 

[syrenn]

We agree there sky.

It demeans them and not me.

What many dont understand is my ability to not take their silliness personally.

Its not about me, they dont evern know me.

They do end up knowing the facts evern if they pretend they dont know them.

They all now know more about the republican parties decades long fight to keep American voting.

They dont like knowing it but its in there brains now.

Facts cant hurt them they can only help them even if they pretend not to know tem.

the only ability you have is your mockable value for amusement.

and hack...how did this trun into something to do with voting???

 

[Sky Dancer]

I do think its a very effective form of behavior modification.


Think peer review.

Peer review done well is not humiliation. YOu think scorn, ridicule, and abuse are effective behavior modifications.

I do not.

Soldiers pissed all over prisoners to humiliate them. Is that supposed to make them not be terrorists?

Sadistic methods of behavior modification may gratify people who get off on that kind of thing, but they do not modify behavior effectively.

I really dont care about what happened there. It was not me so has nothing to do with this conversation.

Calling someone on the carpet for being discussing in a pubic place is more then acceptable as far as i am concerned.

Your friend didn't have the honesty to address the issue with the person in the library. Instead she's spent days ranting about it.

Of course, if she wants to complain, why not?

I'm just saying that too often we think we have a right to tell everyone on earth to adjust their own behavior rather than working with our own minds.

That's like trying to cover the earth with leather instead just buying a pair of shoes to protect your feet.

 

[koshergrl]

I only ranted about it for a few minutes.

Then I spent days responding to idiots who wanted to whine about the fact that I ranted, and tell me what I SHOULD have done, rather than rant....