Pilots who shot down Russian jet arrested over suspected coup complicity

I have no doubt that the CIA / Mossad was involved in the military coup to depose Pres. Erdogan.

Nothing happens in the Middle East without the knowledge and participation of Washington and Tel Aviv. ..... :cool:
You are wrong about that. (Unless.......there is a long term plan for WWIII, then yes.) Nobody wanted to depose Erdogan.

When Russia menaced Turkey Washington withdrew Patriot missiles from Turkey! ...typical american perfidy!
 
Let me spell it out for you with the facts, Bleispriester:

Fact One:
A Turkish Air Force F-16 fighter jet shot down a Russian Sukhoi Su-24M bomber aircraft near the Syria–Turkey border on 24 November 2015.[3][4] According to Turkey, the aircraft—whose nationality was unknown at the time—was fired upon while in Turkish airspace because it violated the border up to a depth of 2.19 kilometres (1.36 miles) for about 17 seconds after being warned to change its heading 10 times over a period of five minutes before entering the airspace.[5][6] The Russia Defence Ministry denied the aircraft ever left Syrian airspace, counter-claiming that their satellite data showed that the Sukhoi was about 1,000 metres (1,100 yd) inside Syrian airspace when it was shot down.[7] The US State Department said that the US independently confirmed that the aircraft's flight path violated Turkish territory, and that the Turks gave multiple warnings to the pilot, to which they received no response and released audio recordings of the warnings they had broadcast.[8][9] Turkish PresidentRecep Tayyip Erdogan pointed out that Turkey had the right to defend its airspace.[10] Russian president Vladimir Putin said that the US knew the flight path of the Russian jet and should have informed Turkey; two US officials said that Russia did not inform the US military of its jet's flight plan.[11]

The Russian pilot and weapon systems officer both ejected from the aircraft. The weapon systems officer was rescued;[1] the pilot was shot and killed by Syrian rebel ground fire while descending by parachute.[12] The shooting of an ejecting aircraft pilot is in contravention of Article 42 of the 1977 additional protocol of the Geneva Convention.[13] A Russian naval infantryman from the search-and-rescue team launched to retrieve the two airmen was also killed when a rescue helicopter was targeted by the rebels and crewmen inside killed by ground fire.[12][clarification needed]

The shootdown was the first destruction of a Russian or Soviet Air Forces warplane by a NATO member state since the Korean War.[14][15][16] Reactions to the incident included denunciation from Russia and an attempt to defuse the situation by NATO afterwards. Russia deployed the guided missile cruiser Moskva armed with S-300F (SA-N-6 Grumble) long-range SAM missiles off the Syrian coast near Latakia[17] and S-400 (SA-21 Growler) mobile SAM systems to Khmeimim airbase. In response, theTurkish Armed Forces deployed a land-based Radar Electronic Support System (R-ESS) developed by Turkey's ASELSAN rendering the effective range of Russian SAM's out of reach of Turkey's airspace. The Turkish jammer systems also allegedly interfered with Russian aviation navigations, radars and military communications.[18][19][20]
2015 Russian Sukhoi Su-24 shootdown - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Fact 2 - Erdogan refuses to apologise to Russia and stands his ground and states it is Putin who needs to apologise :

Erdogan: Turkey won't apologize for downing Russian jet - CNN.com
(CNN)Turkey will not apologize for downing a Russian fighter jet it says violated Turkish airspace near the Syrian border, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said in an exclusive CNN interview Thursday in Ankara.

"I think if there is a party that needs to apologize, it is not us," he said from the Turkish capital. "Those who violated our airspace are the ones who need to apologize. Our pilots and our armed forces, they simply fulfilled their duties, which consisted of responding to ... violations of the rules of engagement. I think this is the essence."
In a meeting with community leaders in Ankara, Erdogan said, "If the same violation occurs today, Turkey has to react the same way."

Fact 3: Putin vows serious consequences:



Fact 4: June 27th, 2016 Erdogan finally apologises: Erdoğan has apologised for downing of Russian jet, Kremlin says
Erdoğan has apologised for downing of Russian jet, Kremlin says
Statement cites Turkish president as saying Ankara ‘never had the desire and the intention’ to down warplane....

Fact 6: Erdogan mistakenly believes that this late apology will somehow appease Putin. Less than a month a later we see Fact 7 come to pass.......

Fact 7: Military coup attempted in Turkey against Erdoğan government
President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan returns to Istanbul amid chaos on streets and says he remains in control, blaming ‘treason’ on a faction within armed forces

Is it treason? No, NATO is fully in control and behind the scenes with their own folks including CIA. NATO is notorious for playing both sides - same goes for CIA & Vatican. NATO is letting Putin have his revenge in ousting Erdogan but first gets an agreement to permit him to stay once the two pilots are blamed for the coup. Watch what happens next......

Fact 8: Turkish pilots who downed Russian jet arrested over coup plot

Turkish pilots who downed Russian jet arrested over coup plot
Vladimir Putin expressed support for his Turkish counterpart after coup attempt.

By
HORTENSE GOULARD
7/19/16, 3:12 PM CET


Updated 7/19/16, 3:18 PM CET

Two Turkish pilots accused of shooting down a Russian plane near the Turkish-Syrian border last November were arrested in the wake of Friday’s failed military coup, AFP reports.

The downing of a Russian jet by Turkish military caused a diplomatic row between the two countries, with Russian President Vladimir Putin calling it “a stab in the back,” until Moscow and Ankara agreed to restore relations last month.

“Two pilots who were part of the operation to down the Russian Su-24 in November 2015 are in custody” over links with the failed coup, a Turkish official told journalists.

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Final word...... if Erdogan believes that selling out his two pilots - playing along with NATO advising him - will appease Putin's wrath? He's sadly mistaken. I don't believe this is over yet.....
 
The pilots who shot down a Russian Su-24 bomber were arrested over suspected coup complicity, Turkish President Edogan told al-Jazeera in an interview days ago.
POLITICS - Turkish pilots who downed Russian jet detained: Erdoğan
When I first heard about the coup to oust Erdogan, I had the feeling that Vladimir Putin was behind it because after his pilots were shot down, he was determined to take revenge. Putin didn't like the arrogant attitude of Erdogan in his response to the Russian jet his pilots downed. It did appear that Erdogan was not intimidated by Putin. This made Putin appear weak. It was unfinished business for Putin because the people of Russia were watching and like most tyrants, Putin couldn't tolerate being seen as a weakling before his own people and on a greater scale - the world.

When Erdogan realized that Putin would go the distance - even to arrange his overthrow - he (Erdogan) decided it was better to sacrifice his own pilots who shot down the Russian SU-24 bomber than to be overthrown.

Now we see how Putin thinks. This has Putin's fingerprints all over it. By announcing that the pilots who shot down the Russian jet are responsible for the coup - Putin is forcing Erdogan's own hand to be the one who destroys these men. When these pilots are put in front of a firing squad, Putin's lust for revenge will not be satisfied. He won't be at peace until Erdogan is dead but first things first. He wants these Turkish pilots put on trial and executed.

Look at the motive, people. Putin is sending a message to other middle east nations. Do not shoot down Russian jets or this is what could happen to you.
Ridiculous nonsense. Stop blaming your government´s crap on others. And what makes Putin a tyrant? His 89% approval rate?

Are you actually telling me that you do not see a connection between the timing of this coup in Turkey and the Turkish pilots who are now being blamed for it? The same two turkish pilots whose actions of shooting down a Russian fighter jet were defended by none other than Erdogan? Are you seriously that naive to believe this is all some coincidence? Or are you a coward who is afraid of calling Putin for what he is? He's setting precedent here for other nations - not to dare shoot down one of his jets - or this will be the consequences.
I never took you for a coward but yes, I do consider Putin to be a tyrant. What else could you call a man who has his own journalists assassinated when they go against him? What else would you call a man who poisons a man for being his political opponent? What do you call Assad, Bleipriester? A man is known by the company he keeps. There is a reason that Putin is allies with Assad and the tyrants of Tehran. He's with his own kind.
This man told the world that Putin is responsible for his condition. He's dead now. Does the truth matter so little to you? Is your agenda greater than your own conscience? These are questions every person must ask themselves for one day we shall answer to God for how we responded to such matters of truth. It will be determine where you spend eternity. Heaven or hell. No coward ever won heaven. It is written:

And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

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Litvinenko: Not first Putin critic to end up dead - CNN.com
The former Russian agent was poisoned by a lethal dose of radioactive polonium, his tea spiked in a London hotel during a meeting with two former Russian security servicemen.
After leaving the Russian Federal Security Service, he blamed the agency for orchestrating a series of apartment bombings in Russia in 1999 that left hundreds dead and led to Russia's invasion of Chechnya later that year.

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UK inquiry into former KGB spy's death opens 02:19
In a statement from his deathbed in London in November 2006, he said he had no doubt about who was to blame for his imminent death.
"You may succeed in silencing me, but that silence comes at a price," Litvinenko said at the time. "You may succeed in silencing one man, but the howl of protest from around the world will reverberate, Mr. Putin, in your ears for the rest of your life."
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The facts are clear:
1. Turkey is currently abandoning the US´s Syria policy
2. The Russian-Turkish relationship is currently normalizing

Your stupid claim lacks of any base and common sense.
It make perfect sense. How else do you explain the fact that these two pilots are being used as scapegoats to appease Putin's wrath? It certainly isn't Erdogan's wrath in play here. He was the man who defended these men who were his pilots. It's Putin that wants revenge over the downed Russian Jet. Not Erdogan.

THINK.
You again lack completely of logic. Of course, you are also a Zionist-controlled anti-Christian drone that blames their shit on some mysterious "Jesuits". So I am not going to waste time on you anymore - it is obvious that you are a puppet that will never learn and update his point of view and positions. So when you some day got rid of the effects of your brainwashing, try again.
 
Bleipriester, there is no point in trying to explain any of this to you as you appear to be incapable of considering that when it comes down to Russia defending its own vs. defending Assad / Syria or Iranian / Turkish interests - It's Russia defending it's own. Every time. You have a great deal to learn about the Russians. And not much time to learn it in.... When the Russian led Islamic invasion of Israel happens? The Russians will turn on all of you and fight you on the mountains of Jerusalem. The prophecy is in the bible. It will happen. They are just using your man power to get them there......
 
scapegoating.


Remember this? Look at Putin. He was seething. Interesting that he uses these exact words again after the two pilots responsible for the downing of the Russian jet are found "responsible" for the coup against Erdogan. (see latest news story about coup- same exact words - hint* hint* )Turkish pilots who downed Russian jet arrested over coup plot
.......with Russian President Vladimir Putin calling it “a stab in the back,”....

Note the words he chose to use...... who just got stabbed in the back in Turkey? The two pilots who shot his plane down and whose hand was used? Erdogan's. Classic communist tactic Putin used there..

Is it a coincidence that the two pilots are accused of the coup to overthrow Erdogan? Of course not! The Russian people know exactly what is going on. Putin vowed serious consequences and we see he delivered. Remember originally the defiance of Erdogan? His refusal to apologise for downing Putin's jet and even demanding that Putin apologize to him for invading his airspace? Oh. You can be sure Putin didn't forget it.

Putting the two jet fighters in front of a firing squad will not be enough for Putin. He'll get Erdogan in due time (imo).
 
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Bleipriester, there is no point in trying to explain any of this to you as you appear to be incapable of considering that when it comes down to Russia defending its own vs. defending Assad / Syria or Iranian / Turkish interests - It's Russia defending it's own. Every time. You have a great deal to learn about the Russians. And not much time to learn it in.... When the Russian led Islamic invasion of Israel happens? The Russians will turn on all of you and fight you on the mountains of Jerusalem. The prophecy is in the bible. It will happen. They are just using your man power to get them there......
What the heck are you babbling?
 
Bleipriester, there is no point in trying to explain any of this to you as you appear to be incapable of considering that when it comes down to Russia defending its own vs. defending Assad / Syria or Iranian / Turkish interests - It's Russia defending it's own. Every time. You have a great deal to learn about the Russians. And not much time to learn it in.... When the Russian led Islamic invasion of Israel happens? The Russians will turn on all of you and fight you on the mountains of Jerusalem. The prophecy is in the bible. It will happen. They are just using your man power to get them there......
What the heck are you babbling?
The facts of what led up to this news story in your OP.
 
Nothing further to discuss. I refuse to argue with you about it. I've given you the links / sources of what happened that led up to this event. If you think otherwise, that is your decision.
 
When Jeremiah gets on one of her psycho rants about the Jesuits, Catholic church, Putin, or other targets she loves to spew her venom at.

It's near impossible to shut the bitch up!! ...... :lol: :lol:
 
There has been a complete shutdown of all radio, TV and internet traffic out of Turkey, and world associations are asking why. This only happens during war and then the people are employed in an official capacity by the government. Now they are being arrested and thrown in prisons as far as we can gather, just for the crime of having a CB radio.

Seems that Turkey is going the way of Iran, Korea and China
 

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